Cocaine epidemic on the terraces

StokeyBear said:
Sharia Law eh? Sounds like you'd love it.

If people want to bung drugs up their nose in their own time that's there business.
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I won’t go into my view of how to deal with the religion of peace mate.
If people want to take illegal drugs so long as they are not entitled to medical treatment or any form of welfare fine but I don’t want my tax paying for them. So I stick by my manifesto plan!
 
bob1873 said:
I won’t go into my view of how to deal with the religion of peace mate.
If people want to take illegal drugs so long as they are not entitled to medical treatment or any form of welfare fine but I don’t want my tax paying for them. So I stick by my manifesto plan!
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Surely you'd be better having your tax not paying for the fight against it, make them legal and everyone wins. You're not paying tax for any aspect of drugs trade and people will be free to do as they wish.
 
Tpol_rfc said:
I'm guessing no with what he goes on to say afterwards. I wonder how many less people would end up having their lives ruined by drugs if it wasn't for the stigmatisation asscotiated with it and people turning to criminality as a direct result of them being deemed illegal.

I'd ask the poster if politicians had said arbitrarily one day that alcohol was illegal would he be crying out for all of the scum alcohol sellers and users to be killed and ostracised from society?
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Banning alcohol wouldn’t bother me mate. I like a beer or a glass of wine but if it was banned I’d be fine with it. I’d ban cigarettes and cease medical support for those that continue to smoke and get cancer as a result as it’s self inflicted. We all have different views on how to improve society.
 
bob1873 said:
I won’t go into my view of how to deal with the religion of peace mate.
If people want to take illegal drugs so long as they are not entitled to medical treatment or any form of welfare fine but I don’t want my tax paying for them. So I stick by my manifesto plan!
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Please don't, no doubt as mad and as extreme as your plan for drug users.

If thats the case people who drink, smoke and eat like shite shouldn't get any help.
 
StokeyBear said:
Please don't, no doubt as mad and as extreme as your plan for drug users.

If thats the case people who drink, smoke and eat like shite shouldn't get any help.
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Everything in your last paragraph is correct surely?
I’ve said my piece and replied I’ll bow out.
 
bob1873 said:
Banning alcohol wouldn’t bother me mate. I like a beer or a glass of wine but if it was banned I’d be fine with it. I’d ban cigarettes and cease medical support for those that continue to smoke and get cancer as a result as it’s self inflicted. We all have different views on how to improve society.
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Thank fűck you're in the minority theno_O
 
bob1873 said:
Banning alcohol wouldn’t bother me mate. I like a beer or a glass of wine but if it was banned I’d be fine with it. I’d ban cigarettes and cease medical support for those that continue to smoke and get cancer as a result as it’s self inflicted. We all have different views on how to improve society.
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What a truly lovely person you must be.
 
If you’d be okay with alcohol being banned it’s fair to say that we’re likely to have very little in common :cool:
 
The war on drugs was never going to be won, complete fanciful idea, a more pragmatic and reasonable policy would be to legalise Drugs and take control from the organised criminal gangs / cartels

proper quality and quantity control , greater drug education & awareness would go along way to tackling the real medical issues , save the nation millions in health care / mental health, police costs, Prison and judicial costs and stop young men in particular fro. having a whole load of teenage drug convictions for personal use which then stops them getting employment / ties them further into vicious circle of real criminality. Knife culture particularly in London area is linked to drug dealing gangs , so that In itself addresses that too.

It’s also about time people do accept the obvious, that drugs can make you feel great / add to having a great time or otherwise people through the decades be wouldn’t take them as the ....it’s called ecstasy for a reason / marketing tool! (& of course they can also mask / make you hide from your problems, but the vast majority of drug users have no addiction issues / don’t become addicts as all the stats / evidence show, they are just ingesting a substance , much like with alcohol / nicotine as part of a night out / socialising

The current situation does nothing to protect the health of people, whilst rewarding & seeing profitability for criminal gangs.

Legalise and use the taxation to help those that do fall into addiction problems with the necessary nhs provisions / rehab,

The quality and quantity control brought about by legalisation would go a long way to reducing drug deaths / health and reducing stigma / secrecy of people taking a substance and unwillingness to seek medical care (as seen at clubs / festivals where people can be reluctant to seek help immediately for fear of being arrested for drug possession / drug dealing if bought for small group of friends
 
d72 said:
Most people under 40 do it, probably a lot over 40 too.

The idea that people who do are some sort of scumbags is ridiculous and simply wrong. It's rife amongst the poor, rich, whoever. People like it, and as mentioned previously on this thread most people are absolutely fine on it and don't have a problem.
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Most people under 40 don't.

Do you really believe 51% of those aged 18 to 40 do coke regularly
 
Drugs, drug usage is part of British culture and everyday life / vocabulary and has been for decades

Be it the mods/scooter Boys with blue bombers (speed), the Beatles & lsd and all the way through with house music / rave / britpop with MDMA & cocaine

People aren’t suddenly going to stop taking drugs, legalisation, education is the way forward (& huge boost to the economy with taxation)

 
themightyi said:
You want to stop medical care for people who get cancer due to smoking.

As much as I hate smoking that’s just a total arsehole opinion to have tbh.
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Don’t wish to derail the thread but everyone has known that smoking kills and has been accepted science for 40/50 years? People choose to ignore that and get sick and we still pay?

Surely comes a point when something has to be said and done ?
 
bob1873 said:
Based on what mate? We are all entitled to different opinions and I may be in a large ‘minority’ or maybe not.
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Based on the fact you enjoy a beer or glass of wine but if it were arbitrarily deemed illegal you would abide by that no problems. At what point would you be brave enough to say no?You're on a Rangers board so I'm assuming you go to matches. One day it's ruled that people are no longer to attend football matches. I assume you'd be fine with that and everyone going to the football would be scum for braking the law. What about cars being banned, people still driving or selling cars should be killed as its against the law and we must all obey it.

What would be the straw that broke the camels back for you? Your post about going along with an alcohol ban was pathetic!
 
Like I said earlier if someone needs to shove Colombia's finest filled with aspirin and god knows what else up their noses at 3pm in the afternoon or in fact ever at all then they seriously need to re-evaluate their lives.
 
govwalker said:
Like I said earlier if someone needs to shove Colombia's finest filled with aspirin and god knows what else up their noses at 3pm in the afternoon or in fact ever at all then they seriously need to re-evaluate their lives.
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Not much different from boozing though is it?
 
In vain of where some people's opinions lie should we now look to ban participation and treatment of people who suffered injuries while cycling?

We know it can be dangerous and we know there's risks involved.

I only cycle once or twice a year so it wouldn't be any great issue for me.

BAN THE BIKES
 
bob1873 said:
Don’t wish to derail the thread but everyone has known that smoking kills and has been accepted science for 40/50 years? People choose to ignore that and get sick and we still pay?

Surely comes a point when something has to be said and done ?
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A laughable point of view given the same applies to alcohol, junk food etc.

I’m guessing people who drink/eat too much and end up with horrendous diseases should also be denied treatment going by your logic too then?
 
govwalker said:
For a start if people are responsible enough with alcohol then it shouldn't harm them compared to that other shite.

Sorry but someone standing in a cubicle at a football match stuffing that shite up their noses when there is fcking kids around should booted from here to into next year. Utter Scumbags.
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If people are responsible enough with the drugs we’re discussing here then it shouldn’t harm them either.

Hence why it’s called an overdose.
 
govwalker said:
For a start if people are responsible enough with alcohol then it shouldn't harm them compared to that other shite.

Sorry but someone standing in a cubicle at a football match stuffing that shite up their noses when there is fcking kids around should booted from here to into next year. Utter Scumbags.
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If you're responsible with pretty much anything in life you'll be fine.

You can be responsible with drugs and unfortunately ingest a tainted batch. The danger comes almost exclusively from its legal status.

If it cannot be obtained legally then it will be obtained illegally.

Illegal operations sometimes care more of their profit margins than the user experience and with no regulatory body to report quality to, there is little impotus to some dealers to ensure quality.

Its really not that hard a logic to follow. You simply believe that because you have decided its bad (based on what? other than sensationalist headlines and hypocritical, moralising politicians I presume) anyone who partakes is somehow subhuman, or at least vastly inferior to you.
 
govwalker said:
For a start if people are responsible enough with alcohol then it shouldn't harm them compared to that other shite.

Sorry but someone standing in a cubicle at a football match stuffing that shite up their noses when there is fcking kids around should booted from here to into next year. Utter Scumbags.
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What are your thoughts on weed out of interest?
 
govwalker said:
Responsible are you having a laugh??
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No, I’m not.

If for example people use a test kit before taking an eccie to make sure it’s safe and the correct dosage then they’ll be fine and most likely have a good time.

If you rip the arse out of anything whether it be drugs, alcohol or whatever then you’ll most likely land yourself in bother.
 
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govwalker said:
For a start if people are responsible enough with alcohol then it shouldn't harm them compared to that other shite.

Sorry but someone standing in a cubicle at a football match stuffing that shite up their noses when there is fcking kids around should booted from here to into next year. Utter Scumbags.
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Just seems to come across like a pitchfork mentality there. Alcohol is regulated to ensure it meets certain standards. Criminals don't have the same obligations. However if it was legalised.....
 
StirlingGer said:
Folk smoking in the toilets is a much bigger problem than folk taking gear. They aren’t harming anyone other than themselves .
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Biggest myth going about drugs. Tell it to the people who get in debt and find themselves breaking into houses, stealing motors or robbing folk to repay what they owe. Tell it to the people they're traumatising. Tell it to the cartel victims in South and Central America at the source who are being cut to pieces literally. Tell it to the innocent lad on the dance floor who accidentally bumps into some coked up hardman who gets a glass in his face and a scar for life for the trouble.
 
Its not nearly as bad at Ibrox as it is at away games. Sadly accepted as part of the "culture" now a days.
 
People seem to be missing the obvious , people are only doing cocaine in toilet cubicles due to illegality / having to be somewhat discreet.

As to the quality of what they are taking / what it’s cut with , again if it was sold legally they would know the quality & quantity and pay it’s real value.

Prohibition doesn’t work , just creates cartels / organised crime which results in killings , shootings as they protect their very valuable profit margin ,

over 35,000 killed in Mexico by the cartels , that goes away if USA legalises drugs (also solves their border wall issue as well...the US states that have legalised cannabis are all showing the benefits to the personal users & the tax payers with revenue it’s bringing in / reduced policing costs

In west of Scotland , how many shootings / attempted murders have there been in last year? All related to ‘crime families’ / drug dealing disputes ....you take that away when it becomes available from Boots. (You May still get a few people involved still as with bootleg alcohol / duty free fags / tobacco but the vast majority of users will bypass the backstreet dealers for the High street for the guarantee quality of product
 
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