Dennistounbear45
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Its a fair point mate but Tav gets a helluva lot of assists and is probably our most reliable outlet from defence.Let Alfie take the pens and Alfie on 40 and Tavi on 5.
Now tell me U concur. ?
Its a fair point mate but Tav gets a helluva lot of assists and is probably our most reliable outlet from defence.Let Alfie take the pens and Alfie on 40 and Tavi on 5.
Now tell me U concur. ?
Seriously!!!! Tav is far more important than Alfie.I would keep Alfie and sell Tav.
Few quality players for Tav.
Strange view. Tav is instrumental to our attacking play & tbh we didn't really miss Morelos that much when he was out at the end there.
Unfortunately this is now to be our business model. Buy cheap , develope, sell big , repeat.No. Keep the best players to bring success. Selling our best players whilst striving to be the best in this league makes no sense whatsoever.
Who says?Unfortunately this is now to be our business model. Buy cheap , develope, sell big , repeat.
It's a fair assessment that they were pretty much meaningless games but there's no getting away from the fact it was our most consistent spell of good football all season.And we missed him in a huge way when he was out and the games weren’t dead rubber.
I suspect we’d have beaten those sides comfortably if it was Morelos staying in the team and Tav sitting out.
Mad lads about place place tonight.I VOTED FOR WHO IS MORELOS JUST FOR A PURE BUZZ
Our captain is our best player!I would keep Alfie and sell Tav.
Few quality players for Tav.
Unfortunately we didn’t play the same way, maybe if we didn’t leave Morelos so isolated and pushed Arfield further up in support then things would have looked a little bit different in some people’s warped minds.Easily.
We play better football with Defoe and Arfield as our front 2. Morelos absolutely does not dummy it for the second goal against the mhanks.
Morelos is a fantastic footballer and his performances have absolutely lifted us and his goals are invaluable but we’d be stupid to not cash in and reinvest.
Utter shite.I would keep Alfie and sell Tav.
Few quality players for Tav.
It's a fair assessment that they were pretty much meaningless games but there's no getting away from the fact it was our most consistent spell of good football all season.
I love Morelos & obviously think he brings a lot to the table but I feel Tav is more important a player for us overall. That's without taking the liability issues into consideration either.
Nonsense, the goals can be replaced as can the penalties Tav scored but the assists will be difficult to replace, Morelos will be easier to replace than Tav.I would keep Alfie and sell Tav.
Few quality players for Tav.
Are U fukingOur captain is our best player!
Absolutely mental to do this!!
U think Alfie ain't our talisman?Utter shite.
I prefer not to speakI would keep Alfie and sell Tav.
Few quality players for Tav.
No mate defo NO 55Our captain is our best player!
Absolutely mental to do this!!
Unfortunately we didn’t play the same way, maybe if we didn’t leave Morelos so isolated and pushed Arfield further up in support then things would have looked a little bit different in some people’s warped minds.
MadnessI would keep Alfie and sell Tav.
Few quality players for Tav.
It was more about the value of Tavernier to the team.Are U fuking
U think Alfie ain't our talisman?
The first time he was out Davis & Defoe were nowhere up to speed & we were also still really experimenting with our shape. IIRC we had fat Flannigan at LB too. It's kind of an apples & oranges comparison really.Yeah but when you’ve got Morelos out of the side for extended spells twice, first time was during competitive games and we were hopeless, second time was during dead rubber games and we won. It paints a pretty clear picture as I think it’s unfair on Morelos to brush that fact aside to imply we were as good or better without him.
I VOTED FOR WHO IS MORELOS JUST FOR A PURE BUZZ
It's a no brainer: of course. He is generally less important to the team than many people assume.
We dropped points in 15 games this season. Morelos played in 12 of those games. Suggesting that we suffered for his absence is really a rather odd manipulation of data.
Someone like Aston Villa or Norwich will sign him with 3 days of window left leaving us rushing to get someone in.
No info just a hunch
Some people seem to be glossing over how inconsistent the majority of the team was back then too. Since then Arfield, Davis, Kent, Flannagan (to name a few) have been putting in much more consistent & direct performances. Not to mention teams had us sussed that if they push us out wide & packed the box then we were toothless.Only a no brainer would ignore the performances we put in when he was out the side the first time. Couldn’t score in a barrel and fannies and the teams overlay play clearly suffered in a substantial way. Thats to anyone with two working eyes anyway (the forum almost unanimously agreed with this before the piggery red card and complete revision and re-evaluation of his importance), to simply ignore this as though it didn’t happen, is rather odd.
Some people seem to be glossing over how inconsistent the majority of the team was back then too. Since then Arfield, Davis, Kent, Flannagan (to name a few) have been putting in much more consistent & direct performances. Not to mention teams had us sussed that if they push us out wide & packed the box then we were toothless.
It's no secret we relied on him way too much back then.
Yeah but the root cause of the change in consistency is the fact one block of games were played with nothing to play for, that was mostly the case for all the opposition we played too. It’s something people are only too happy to overlook because they won’t forgive the player for the piggery red card. Either that or they’re just very naive and will get a wee shock when we start the new season and aren’t blowing teams away.
I don't rate him,I don't trust him and I don't believe he is a team player, gladly see the back of him and his attitude for any priceWho’s the 5% who said no???
We need a reality check over Alfredo. Yes he’s good, but he’s far from being great! Yes he’s young but he’s a suspension waiting to happen!
Personally I’d cash in if we can get anything over £10m
We'll see next season if what you're saying is right enough regarding competitive games. I'd say it's a fair amount of conjecture rather than concrete fact though.
FWIW I also think people are going overboard wrt his temperament. That card against them was very harsh & if it was a red, Brown should have been off too. He's clearly being judged to a different set of rules.
That scunners me too. The vast majority of his cards have been unwarranted or very soft. Tav being a terrible defender is another media fallacy they love to spout. It maybe had more truth ages ago but it's rare he makes a blatant defensive error these days (obviously other than just being caught OOP). It's all the more frustrating when it's bears repeating this stuff.I understand why people were angry at him, he let everyone down. But far too many have just jumped on the media bandwagon. Fact is he’s still referred to a different set of rules, so is Brown, only for him it works in the opposite way in that he can do whatever he likes without repercussion.
We'll see next season if what you're saying is right enough regarding competitive games. I'd say it's a fair amount of conjecture rather than concrete fact though.
FWIW I also think people are going overboard wrt his temperament. That card against them was very harsh & if it was a red, Brown should have been off too. He's clearly being judged to a different set of rules.