Anybody know the name of this book...can't seem to find it on internet...it is connected to the abuse...
Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)
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Anybody know the name of this book...can't seem to find it on internet...it is connected to the abuse...
Robert Prytz
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The work all you guys are doing is brilliant, it’s a disgrace that this fight for justice is being more or less ignored by large parts of the Scottish media.
monkey magic
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When these scum are finally outed as the paedos harbourers they truly are, the SFA will have no option but to hammer them, and Rangers should be demanding they are thrown out of Scottish football. They have not only brought the game into disrepute, but have covered up countless criminal offences.
Grigo Yossarian
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There are two posters that I know who are close to the Grays & John@WestEnclosure & they have been feeding stuff from us but also we are getting fed stuff from them to do further investigations Gramps.
We’re all just trying to get justice for the victims & then will push on From there hopefully.
Blues and Royals
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People like yourself and others on this forum are doing an amazing job and it is appreciated by everyone on here, I’m sure.
Cap truly doffed.
Grigo Yossarian
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You’re correct mate.
We know Birt & McSherry gave 14 names. Six from CFC/CBC have been convicted. Whether those names were all for their club or included outwith it we aren’t 100% sure but we believe that’s totally from Celtic.
Also what’s happening with the Thai Tims ? Just seems so weird.
KYBear_74
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Wait, you contacted every club or every clubs forum? I thought the original post was about forums.
Two very different things, I'd be interested to know which considering only one responded.
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Nothing will be missed mate.
The subject was brought up about forums also mate. I personally didn’t want anything to do with contacting forums in Scotland. This caused let’s say a wee bit of a disagreement in the background. Some for and some against. I was against.
My reasoning for that ( posted previously) was I want no solidarity with any other football club supporters in Scotland. They see the same news as us and have done nothing. During our dark days each and everyone of them wanted us dead. Over EBT’s?.. But a club that has covered up child abuse I see no action from them whatsoever.
So I contacted actual football clubs in Scotland and got one reply. I hope that answers your question mate.
It took a documentary to get many of the clubs talking.
If we want progress we need to get other fans on board as pressure from every other club is vital.
Cutting your nose off to spite your face etc. It needs to be an avalanche, not a snowball.
KYBear_74
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It does and I feel the same.
Honestly, I thought it was the perfect opportunity to apply at the lowest level league in England when they stripped our license in 2012.
You don't want us? Fine, we'll start over but not to your benefit!
Obviously the ability to join down south and whether or not we would be accepted were questions but I felt it was worth exploring.
Sadly we were sold to scumbags who didn't really care what happened to the club. It's a damn miracle we survived considering the successive owners that were stripping us bare as much as they could.
Still kind of think there were dark and sinister forces all through that stitch up, wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find out the scum were behind the owners somehow.
Thankfully all you home based Rangers fans saved our club by refusing to give up and holding people accountable!
Grigo Yossarian
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Thanks CB. It’s about the only thing we’ve disagreed on in months.
I could see both sides of the argument but, as you say, it’s nice to see other fans call them out at matches. But we need a lot more of course.
The two bears who worked with me were very clever in wording the approaches, let’s say.
jf1960
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I contacted every clubs fans forum where possible and got 1 reply
Grigo Yossarian
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Thanks Karbear.
Grigo Yossarian
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Thanks JF.
Grigo Yossarian
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I’d love you to be right Bazoo.
KYBear_74
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You'd think we'd have made some friends in our 3 (or was it 4?) years in the lower leagues. They ALL made money on us didn't they? I don't recall any problems in any of the away games that would have had them upset with Rangers.
So if all member clubs vote on an issue, as some here have said they would on the scum's fate, then wouldn't we expect to win that vote. Especially if evidence was laid out there.
If not, the cancer is to the bone and I fear we do really have to leave that league! Somehow, someway.
So if all member clubs vote on an issue, as some here have said they would on the scum's fate, then wouldn't we expect to win that vote. Especially if evidence was laid out there.
If not, the cancer is to the bone and I fear we do really have to leave that league! Somehow, someway.
Dr Steve Brule
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It's a disgrace it's a fight at all.
NDC bear forever
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Didn’t green try to purchase bury’s license?
NDC bear forever
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To everyone working on this subject I admire you for the efforts you are putting in showing the whole world the extent of the cover up at that rancid club and for, most importantly, fighting for justice for the victims. Cap well and truly doffed to everyone single one of youse.
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It would be good if one of the documentary makers could become a share holder and ask about the internal investigation at their agm.
theateam
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mea maxima culpa,On Netflix is this called Examination Of Conscience??
I have just watched it, absolutely shocking, you used to hear now and again on the News one of Paisleys or Pastor Jack Glass giving a firebrand speech about the whore of Rome and the Anti christ and thought that was a bit strong, they were being politely diplomatic, the systematic, industrial paedophilia is off the Scale
mkgers
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I've seen that and it made me angry and sad in equal measure. The way the Catholic Church is allowed to continue on unimpeded despite the countless instances of abuse across the globe, and across undoubtably centuries, really pickles my brain.
Deliver us from Evil is another "good" documentary on the same topic. This documents the abuse across many parishes of one Irish priest in America, now living freely in Ireland. Again its an incredibly difficult watch but it reveals in very real terms how far the effects of abuse spans, and just how many lives one monster can ruin.
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Timskelper
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Many sponsors do indeed place financial reward before the wellbeing of children, but surely there's at least one who's seriously considering tearing up their contract. This isn't going away and it's only going to get worse, with more adverse publicity. I wouldn't be hanging around for that.
I do know that Mr Green who was one of their main sponsors on the paedo harbourers website, ended their contract early. They told me (and others) in an email they no longer dealt with them, but I know it ended early, even though the magnificent media people didn't think it was that interesting (probably as a supporter of the scum to let us know).
KYBear_74
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Don't know. Haven't watched that one but I found it.
I found Mea Maxima Culpa on Amazon Prime in the US
KYBear_74
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No idea mate. There's a lot of water between me and news that detailed! lol
indianabluenose
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Paedophile coach can live rent-free after leaving jail
A businessman and former football manager has provided a home for life to a paedophile who preyed on young players at Celtic Boys Club.Neil Watt, 56, bought Frank Cairney’s home eight years before his conviction and granted him rent-free tenancy for life, property records confirm.Cairney, 83, the
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Paedophile coach can live rent-free after leaving jail
Marc Horne
September 9 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Frank Cairney was convicted of sexually abusing boys while he was at Celtic Boys ClubJOHN KIRBY/THE SUN
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A businessman and former football manager has provided a home for life to a paedophile who preyed on young players at Celtic Boys Club.
Neil Watt, 56, bought Frank Cairney’s home eight years before his conviction and granted him rent-free tenancy for life, property records confirm.
indianabluenose
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guy Is trying to distance himself now
I gave him that assistance. I had no gain, whatsoever, from this and was just trying to be compassionate.” He strongly denied that the agreement was intended to protect Cairney from being sued by his victims, saying: “The suggestion I colluded with Mr Cairney because he knew he was going to be convicted and I agreed to help him hide his assets is ludicrous.”
I gave him that assistance. I had no gain, whatsoever, from this and was just trying to be compassionate.” He strongly denied that the agreement was intended to protect Cairney from being sued by his victims, saying: “The suggestion I colluded with Mr Cairney because he knew he was going to be convicted and I agreed to help him hide his assets is ludicrous.”
indianabluenose
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It is one of those lies that it is insulting that they think we would buy it. This watt guy needs drawn and quartered. He has some kind of relationship with Sturrgen too.
Nacho Novo
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Paedophile coach can live rent-free after leaving jail
A businessman and former football manager has provided a home for life to a paedophile who preyed on young players at Celtic Boys Club.Neil Watt, 56, bought Frank Cairney’s home eight years before his conviction and granted him rent-free tenancy for life, property records confirm.Cairney, 83, the
Paedophile coach can live rent-free after leaving jail
Marc Horne
September 9 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Frank Cairney was convicted of sexually abusing boys while he was at Celtic Boys ClubJOHN KIRBY/THE SUN
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A businessman and former football manager has provided a home for life to a paedophile who preyed on young players at Celtic Boys Club.
Neil Watt, 56, bought Frank Cairney’s home eight years before his conviction and granted him rent-free tenancy for life, property records confirm.
Lives in Milngavie according to Companies House
Keep up the good work mate.
IndonesiaBlue
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Insulting it most certainly is but interesting to see he’s not even tried to concoct a better story. Suspicious even. So much so I’d be asking ex-players at those named clubs about his time as manager.
Perhaps another subject of interest for the independent public inquiry to delve in to.
Renfrew@UKGB&NI
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One thing I'm noticing on this thread seems to be the lack of patience.
It will take as long as it takes,rushing things just leaves a job half done.
As earlier thread states,the Hillsborough documentary took 4 years and the outcome of that tragedy took longer.
It will take as long as it takes,rushing things just leaves a job half done.
As earlier thread states,the Hillsborough documentary took 4 years and the outcome of that tragedy took longer.
I can accept that a football club could unknowingly employ a pedophile. I can accept that football was rife with it. What I cannot accept is the fact that Celtic FC have a host of ex-employees, that may well run into double figures whom were beasts. On top of that they KNOWINGLY re-employed a notorious beast who seems to have been at the heart of a UK-wide pedophile ring.
Now my question to the authorities/powers that be is this... if you have nothing to hide, if you have nothing to worry about - then where is the pressure?
I ask the rest of the supporters around Scotland; had this happened at your club how would you feel? Preying on innocent children. It could have happened to anyone’s child. Just because it didn’t happen at your club does it mean you shouldn’t care?
Welcome to SNP Scotland - where tax scheme’s can unite the masses of fractured football fans through a mutual hatred - however, a Pedophile ring which operated out of one of its premier football clubs for over 40 years with potentially hundreds of victims doesn’t even make the national news. Where is the national outcry? Where is the media which hunt? Remember when we were hearing “think of the children, think what the schools could have used that income for”... Well where is your concern for those very same children who were abused at the hands of Celtic FC. I would love to say it was down to negligence, but it wasn’t. They knew and they are trying to cover it up.
Ask yourself why this is getting buried.... it is because there are many more up to their knees in this. Every single one of them should be castrated and the pedophile nest should be shut down for good.
Now my question to the authorities/powers that be is this... if you have nothing to hide, if you have nothing to worry about - then where is the pressure?
I ask the rest of the supporters around Scotland; had this happened at your club how would you feel? Preying on innocent children. It could have happened to anyone’s child. Just because it didn’t happen at your club does it mean you shouldn’t care?
Welcome to SNP Scotland - where tax scheme’s can unite the masses of fractured football fans through a mutual hatred - however, a Pedophile ring which operated out of one of its premier football clubs for over 40 years with potentially hundreds of victims doesn’t even make the national news. Where is the national outcry? Where is the media which hunt? Remember when we were hearing “think of the children, think what the schools could have used that income for”... Well where is your concern for those very same children who were abused at the hands of Celtic FC. I would love to say it was down to negligence, but it wasn’t. They knew and they are trying to cover it up.
Ask yourself why this is getting buried.... it is because there are many more up to their knees in this. Every single one of them should be castrated and the pedophile nest should be shut down for good.
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Rathcoole_bluenose
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I'm guilty of it as well. I think it's just the pure hatred for what these animals have done to young innocent lives that we want justice right now. In work I wait for midnight then come straight on here to see if there's any newspaper stories and when there isn't it's frustrating but as you say patience is key.
Paedophile coach can live rent-free after leaving jail
A businessman and former football manager has provided a home for life to a paedophile who preyed on young players at Celtic Boys Club.Neil Watt, 56, bought Frank Cairney’s home eight years before his conviction and granted him rent-free tenancy for life, property records confirm.Cairney, 83, the
Paedophile coach can live rent-free after leaving jail
Marc Horne
September 9 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Frank Cairney was convicted of sexually abusing boys while he was at Celtic Boys ClubJOHN KIRBY/THE SUN
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A businessman and former football manager has provided a home for life to a paedophile who preyed on young players at Celtic Boys Club.
Neil Watt, 56, bought Frank Cairney’s home eight years before his conviction and granted him rent-free tenancy for life, property records confirm.
Everyone should subscribe to the times. They are the only ones pursuing this huge horror story. Albeit on their online version - not sure if Marc Horne's efforts make it to print. What usually happens is the record and the sun copy his pieces a few hours later. They are shit scared of SEPARATE ENTITY FC.
Cambuslang Bear
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This may possibly get a few clubs onside. They will not want to take a financial hit because of something they have no knowledge of or participated in. This might seem a bit heartless and this is obviously a very sensitive subject, but at the end of the day they are still running a business, not running a charity
Just a reminder Tommy mate. You probably still have all the info, however this locked thread still contains useful addresses if you can't find them in this thread.
Celtcs peadophile ring. Should we en masse threaten all celtc sponsor's that we will no longer do business with them?
These are their sponsors/partners listed on the following web page. http://www.celticfc.net/sponsors Could anyone be bothered getting all the email address for the public relations departments for them? Just so that we can contact them en masse to say we will no longer deal with their company...
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BigSteve
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Can anyone confirm if they make the printed version UK wide? (I live in China)
Isn't it incredible that we can review the entire case Macari raised against Celtic (no wonder he hates the club) 30 years ago online ...
... yet we can't find out about the most recent case they tried to defend and lost in Edinburgh.
We have still to this day not established whom this was:
Sheriff Personal Injury Court, Edinburgh, 15 October 2018 JH v Celtic PLC (under section 11
Sadly. I don't think so. Which limits it's coverage drastically one would imagine Steve.
Ianferguson
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There are millions of decent celtic fans out there who have absolutely nothing on their conscience regarding historical child abuse at their club. However if not even a few of these fans ever push for a FULL INDEPENDENT INQUIRY then I'm afraid everything changes and not only will this club's image be stained forever, it's fans will also be seen to have condoned the clubs dispicable behaviour and therefore be complicit in the cover up. The clocks ticking .
Wamphray_Loyal
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If they were decent they would be demanding that the club they support do the right and proper thing by the victims ,I have yet to hear one single Celtc fan even acknowledge that their club have done any wrong despite all the convictions .In my opinion you either condemn the actions of that club or you are condoning the actions of it .
nemessis
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He needs a lie detector like all of them do it's seems it comes with the company they keep, they should have a liars hat or something that they could all wear, filthy dirty people who when the time comes to meet their makers their confessionals will count for nothing and they know it.
