thats a harrowing listen, a few points:
the lady said her brother couldve avoided the abuse if celtic scurrilous allegations had been taken seriously by celtic, the sfa and the police.
She has suffered violence from celtic fans egged on by scottish media.
How can celtic boast about safeguarding children going forward when their internal investigation didnt speak to any victims?
Finally what i picked from is how can the SFA commission a report into historic child abuse when a complainer had directly implicated them in the historical cover up?
What really is it going to take for someone within the Scottish media to really get hold of this. It’s like they’re trying their best to not want to report on it
Michelle and Gordon bravo. Now let's see how timmy can call their words point-scoring.
250K isn't enough for what some went through.The latest child sex abuse case compensation was reported in The Guardian this week. It was a former Children‘s Home in the South East of England. The compensation for the first tranche of victims amounts to £46Million, with he highest award being £250K. Other cases are still ongoing and it I expected that the final compensation will take the total figure close to £100Million. Interesting times ahead.
They will do what they do best, report on the report and then hope it goes away. Same as Letterkenny, when the Daily Record reported on the P&J reporting about sectarian singing. Keevins et al would not speak about a "non-Football" issue on Clyde.I think they are scared.
The Grays have been targetted for physical attacks and online abuse etc...
Random Scottish journalist won't put his head above the parapet and make it front page news daily only to become subject to attack UNTIL the Scottish Government make it clear that they themselves are against child sexual abuse at Celtic and that, guess what, it is okay to criticise Celtic for committing crimes.
Humza supports Celtic and paedophilia more than he supports Justice for all people of Scotland.
When the hordes joined in with the cult, I'm willing to bet that senior nats made a deal with the devil.What really is it going to take for someone within the Scottish media to really get hold of this. It’s like they’re trying their best to not want to report on it
Surely that billboard statement is wrong the slogan should read "Abusers always work from ROME,
In that case you will need to wait until Hell freezes over.Couldn't bring myself to listen to that.heartbreaking
I await the Scottish government. Celtic and the SFA response to it
I've listened to Nevin and he makes a bit of an arse of himself in saying the parents should have noticed then corrects himself. He also does giggle but if I'm honest I took that as nerves. His discussion was quite revealing about the culture or normalised behaviour around that boys club
Hang around for a decade or two and you might get an out the office reply.Couldn't bring myself to listen to that.heartbreaking
I await the Scottish government. Celtic and the SFA response to it
Now the track has been removed from Soundcloud. I've tried on two different computers. This can't be happening right?So let me get this straight. Around 9 or so minutes in Gordon Woods tells the following story about this complete and utter scumbag got his hooks into him:
Woods was told that he wasn't going to be making it onto the team after trials. Torbett immediately approached him and told him not to listen to that and he'd get him back on the team.
Woods was 13 and was just devastated, as any one of us that dreamed of playing football for pay would be, on being told he wasn't good enough.
How much any one of you want to bet me that this wasn't a well thought out plan by these sick fncks?? Regardless of footballing talent, choose a boy who they identify of being a prime target and tell them they didn't make a team only to use it to their advantage.
Based on others' responses to listening to this podcast I'm scared of what's to come.
I've listened to Nevin and he makes a bit of an arse of himself in saying the parents should have noticed then corrects himself. He also does giggle but if I'm honest I took that as nerves. His discussion was quite revealing about the culture or normalised behaviour around that boys club
Appears to be have been pulled. Too late. We've heard it. It's out there.Now the track has been removed from Soundcloud. I've tried on two different computers. This can't be happening right?
I would if I could. Tried to listen to it just now with a view to sharing it on Social Media - the interview link is 'MISSING'!Anybody on here - or within Scottish society as a whole - who has not shared this link on their social media outlets need to seriously ask themselves - why not?
To sit and say that what went on in "Spotlight", "Athlete A" and the Jeffrey Epstein expose on Netflix was "shocking, terrible, inexcusable, etc, etc" and then not highlight what's gone on in this country for half a century is a poor. poor show, to put it mildly.
GET IT OUT THERE!!!
This is what I struggle with. It was known by other parents yet ignored while keeping their child involved and potentially under threat of harm.
I find that astounding.
What is the story here with this officersfa guy? Looks dodgy as hell for the sfa.
I am not so sure, there is a fair chance it was pulled due to the ongoing court case. The beeps don't hide much in the context of the interview content.I would if I could. Tried to listen to it just now with a view to sharing it on Social Media - the interview link is 'MISSING'!
Holicommunicom are at it again
I am not so sure, there is a fair chance it was pulled due to the ongoing court case. The beeps don't hide much in the context of the interview content.
Prob something said , we need to start calling the beasts from now onHas any of the lads has contact with Adrian and had it confirmed as to why it has been pulled? We all know why but it would be good to deal in facts.
They will not be silenced any longer. The world is slowly starting to hear of the hell of Celtic Fc and their boys club.
I'll be honest, I didn't think he was laughing at the actual abuse. I thought it was nerves and the surrealism of it all when he was looking back at it.I've listened to Nevin and he makes a bit of an arse of himself in saying the parents should have noticed then corrects himself. He also does giggle but if I'm honest I took that as nerves. His discussion was quite revealing about the culture or normalised behaviour around that boys club
Yeah I remember this from a while back, the SFA changed their rules in light of the scandals coming out. At face value it would appear they were trying to take away the responsibility from clubs in reporting cases, ie Celtic. But I recall a few comments at a later date from one of the victims trying to hold the SFA accountable for the abuse. Perhaps media at work, or perhaps lawyers thinking the SFA were an easier target, who knows. I would bet the hand of Lawwell would be involved somewhere along the line, trying the old deflection tactics.What is the story here with this officersfa guy? Looks dodgy as hell for the sfa.
But, but ,but,......there's only 26 letters in our alpabet. We need more letters to include ALL of them!!Prob something said , we need to start calling the beasts from now on
Beast A,
Beast B,
Beast C,
Beast D,
Beast E,
Beast F,
Beast G,
Beast H,
Beast ..... Well you know the rest
Yes mate. I’ve signed it from ChileIs there any point in me signing the petition since they are petitioning the government and I am over here in Canada? Would my signature be counted I guess is what I am asking?
Don’t usually listen to anything like that, glad I did,genuinely cried listening to a bit of it, that guilt gordon feels he is carrying regarding the death of Michelle’s brother is haunting.
this link worked for me a minute ago
Don’t usually listen to anything like that, glad I did,genuinely cried listening to a bit of it, that guilt gordon feels he is carrying regarding the death of Michelle’s brother is haunting.
Exactly.Im really struggling with it as well now, I think as the dam begins to burst there will be an outpouring of grief. Ive not been myself since the Strachan east celtic boys club release of couple of weeks ago, that floored me. Ive known the story for years but hearing it again was brutal, ive got kids in my family that age.
Exactly.
I know its been said before but I can't even fathom what kind of person could hurt a defenseless child that trusted you. I have problems hurting peoples' feelings much less consciously inflicting trauma and harm on them.
There just HAS to be just retribution for these sick deviants somewhere in their karma.
Scottish government, police, SFA and most importantly, the Scottish media.I agree thats why they and the enablers must be brought to justice, what they do is just soo wicked on every level of reasoning. Monsters
It’s in no way my place to tell the survivors how to take Nevin here. To laugh at any point during that interview is insensitive at the very least. But I agree it sounded more out of nervousness. It didn’t seem to me that he was making light of the terrible events.
Long wait!Couldn't bring myself to listen to that.heartbreaking
I await the Scottish government. Celtic and the SFA response to it