KansasCityShuffle
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Thats a pen. Happens quick but still a pen.
It is on the BBC iPlayer!!Thanks mate It was tonight’s I wanted to see , I was certain I’d heard they had regained the late night Saturday slot for tradition , didn’t realise they meant 7.30 dinner time . Should’ve known
It wasn’t a penalty!
These sorts of threads only dilute genuine grievances against referees.
Can you think of anyone in refereeing, or ex refs, or even part of the media, anyone outside the club i mean, that even cares ? we dont get many if any decisions during the season most think thats what we deserve. No one writes or speaks about it.
Even a small section of our own supporters are trying to convince themselves bias is everywhere in scottish football but refs have decided they want no part of it or refuse to let the tims influence their decision-making. Board seems scared of the issue as press will totally back guys like Madden our ex players need their job to get back into football.
It is also a clear foul a simple decision for any match official he has a better view than any pictures posted or tv coverage. As easy as a snooker ref calling a foul when the white goes in aff.
Daft post. It’s not definitively not a pen and the video evidence shows this. I thought at the time it was a pen, but because there was no real replay or discussion afterwards I assumed I just saw it wrong. But no on the available footage after the match, I was right.It wasn’t a penalty!
These sorts of threads only dilute genuine grievances against referees.
Post 94. You cannot state your opinion as fact when there is actual video and photo evidence showing the opposite of what you believe. You can argue it is soft if you believe that. You cannot outrightly state it is not a pen when it can clearly be seen the defender makes contact with the player and not the ball.It wasn’t a foul though. If golf are going to get up in arms about things like that then it will be bad for your blood pressure!
Daft post. It’s not definitively not a pen and the video evidence shows this. I thought at the time it was a pen, but because there was no real replay or discussion afterwards I assumed I just saw it wrong. But no, I was right.
We’ve seen the tv companies repeatedly highlight “controversial” decisions that went for us, that were clearly a correct call and only “controversial” because the media and our opponents repeatedly harp on about it.
Post 94. You cannot state your opinion as fact when there is actual video and photo evidence showing the opposite of what you believe. You can argue it is soft if you believe that. You cannot outrightly state it is not a pen when it can clearly be seen the defender makes contact with the player and not the ball.
You cannot state that definitively when there is literally physical evidence to the contrary. If you think it’s a soft claim fine, but given the physical evidence your absolute assertions look foolish.it definitively was not a penalty. I don’t even think Alfredo made much of a claim it was.
Only one “at it” in this thread is you.contact = penalty? I’m glad that you’re not a referee.
anyone who argues they wouldn’t have been livid if that was given against us is at it.
Alfredo clearly appeals to the ref.it definitively was not a penalty. I don’t even think Alfredo made much of a claim it was.
he could not have asked for a better view of it.
Looked back at the video. You are just telling outright lies about physical evidence again. 3 Rangers players including Morelos clearly appeal for the pen.it definitively was not a penalty. I don’t even think Alfredo made much of a claim it was.
Whilst I disagree with you I admire that you can make an opinion on what is a contentious and debatable decision without stating your opinion is the only one possible, factual conclusion. It is not black and white “not a pen”.It would have been a soft pen, Wasnt a deft touch either. The ball went away from him before the foul came in.
It could have been given but no complaints it wasnt.
Alfredo clearly appeals to the ref.
Whilst I disagree with you I admire that you can make an opinion on what is a contentious and debatable decision without stating your opinion is the only one possible, factual conclusion. It is not black and white “not a pen”.
Embarrassing. Watch the video. Look at his team mates.In the same manner as he would for a corner he knows isn’t his.
It clearly is not a foul. We make ourselves look irrational by making a fuss out of nothing, it dilutes the argument when we discuss genuine injustice.
Embarrassing. Watch the video. Look at his team mates.
one more thing, if we had VAR and it was applied how it was in England after their restart It would 100% be given as a penalty. 100 times out of 100. Soft or not. Letter of law. Player trips attacker in box without making contact with ball.
Embarrassing. Watch the video. Look at his team mates.
one more thing, if we had VAR and it was applied how it was in England after their restart It would 100% be given as a penalty. 100 times out of 100. Soft or not. Letter of law. Player trips attacker in box without making contact with ball.
No it wouldn’t have been given as a penalty, because it was not a foul.
these things are clear but as either it is a foul or it is not, binary decision. Had that given against us in the last minute for Aberdeen we’d have a reason to be upset.
what cant you see from the video and stills that everyone else and their granny can?
it's a clear penalty. Once again we have useless linesman, referees and 4th officials (since they have been known to get out players carded)
It's a replay after the foul on the halfway line.You hear the whistle blow in that clip. What's that all about?
Which part isn't a penalty though, could you clear that up?Watch it with the sound up, McCoist says “I don’t think there’s an awful lot in that” at the end, clearly he didn’t see what your granny did.
Which part isn't a penalty though, could you clear that up?
The lunge when he is a good yard away as Alfredo controls the ball?
The bit where the defender is no where near the ball?
The kick to the calf?
The stamp on the toes?
The push while his foot is on his toe?
Or the bit where as Alfredo continues to try and move forward his foot is trapped and he falls?
Which part isn't a penalty though, could you clear that up?
The lunge when he is a good yard away as Alfredo controls the ball?
The bit where the defender is no where near the ball?
The kick to the calf?
The stamp on the toes?
The push while his foot is on his toe?
Or the bit where as Alfredo continues to try and move forward his foot is trapped and he falls?
A kick, stamp, push and fall is anticipating more contact?Stone walller by that description.
contact doesn’t mean foul. Are you genuinely saying you’d not have been livid if that was given against us?
Alfredo went down easy as he’d anticipated more contact.
A kick, stamp, push and fall is anticipating more contact?
I hope there are no penalties in the SP this year as it surely means someone has lost a limb at the very least!
Of course, the kick on the calf would give you momentum one way or the other. Granted, in this situation it appears to be the way Morelos is going so it shouldn't have stopped him going on towards the ball, until he tries to lift his foot, but someone is stood on it, so as his body is moving forward (aided by a push in the back) but his foot can not move forward there is very little place to "go", except down.Do you think that “kick, stamp and push” knocked him over?
Of course, the kick on the calf would give you momentum one way or the other. Granted, in this situation it appears to be the way Morelos is going so it shouldn't have stopped him going on towards the ball, until he tries to lift his foot, but someone is stood on it, so as his body is moving forward (aided by a push in the back) but his foot can not move forward there is very little place to "go", except down.
Second year maths and physics at play here I'd have thought?
I mentioned this during the game. Tav also had a PK against him last season v the sheep..Goldson also had his shirt pulled in the box but nothing was mentioned on Sky
remember the scumdome, Clancy and the penalty he gave?
Telling various people they are "just wrong" based on something we've both seen on a flat box in a room at best, from a camera a long way off makes you look a bit arrogant and silly in my opinion.Yep, force, momentum etc.
if you think that knocked him over you are just wrong.
Would you be happy to accept that incident leading to a penalty award against Rangers?
Watched it again this morning and we were much more comfortable than I felt at the time. I guess that's what nerves can do to youGot to say that the bird who was on (and to a lesser extent Craig Gordon) were more praising of our performance today than many on here.
Watched it again this morning and we were much more comfortable than I felt at the time. I guess that's what nerves can do to you
Centre Backs could've played in slippers but we didn't get enough from full-backs going forward.
A 6/10 performance
Telling various people they are "just wrong" based on something we've both seen on a flat box in a room at best, from a camera a long way off makes you look a bit arrogant and silly in my opinion.
In fact 9 times out of 10 I wouldn't give you the courtesy of even replying, but unless there is another poster with a similar username, I didn't have you down as that kind of poster.
Hopefully you are not taking it out on "the forum" because you're having a pisser of a day.
I hope you are enjoying your sunday!
Anyway, had it happened at the other end, I've no doubt it would have been a penalty, if it happens today, I've no doubt it'll be a penalty.
I wouldn't have been happy had it happened at the other end and Madden blew for a spot kick.
But not because it wasn't a foul, because I want to see consistency.
Is that "enough contact" for you?
Because I don't see any more in that than in the Morelos incident?