Homelander
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Pedro was the second worse footballing thing to ever happen to our club
That ned was one of our best players in recent times and would die for the shirt. Have a bit more respect when talking about himGerrard wasn’t a ned at Liverpool who got stripped of the captaincy not once but twice.
"if the likes of Halliday could remember his own abject failures"
Teams fail, individuals do not. Thus, my point being that he never hid and always gave it his all.
Well with retrospect, I think he would be glad he didnt get it? Would you want to be associated with the Portuguese Pretender?
Worst...Pedro was the second worse footballing thing to ever happen to our club
Keeping him beyond that summer was the biggest mistake this board has madeSurely not?
The guy was a complete fraud and that was clear from the outset.
How did that work out for JJ and Murty?Didn't do Johansson or Murty any harm did it ? When Pedro went, they were in charge for months.
That could've been Ferguson. Instead, he ran to the press (again) when he didn't get the gig and then clearly told players at the club what went on in the interview.
Never took to Mendes as a player, even less so now!Keeping him beyond that summer was the biggest mistake this board has made
Other than grandstanding when they thought they’d ousted fat Mike one of the 4 times or so it took to get rid of him.
What the hell was the criteria to get the job?
Is it a sign of how far we’d fallen that he was even in with a shot never mind getting it... don’t even start me on Mendes foisting him on us to line his pockets
Business more than footballing really but I see your point mate.2012.
Halliday was singled out by Pedro as a trouble maker, when Gerrard came in and pulled him aside and asked "I've been told this about you, but I'm not seeing it, what happened?!"
Morelos doesn't even come close to excusing him for pena and HerreraJust a point on Pedro ... yes he wasted millions on the Mexicans but that money will be recouped when we sell Morelos
“Ah but Morelos was a JJ signing” ... well he may have been recommended by JJ but Pedro was the man that sanctioned the signing and took the gamble on JJ’s word so ultimately he was a Pedro signing as much as some on here won’t like to admit
That ned was one of our best players in recent times and would die for the shirt. Have a bit more respect when talking about him
Mibbee. But there are better ways and means other than just undermining him. PLG had an excellent pedigree when he came to Ibrox. He wanted everybody off burgers and beer which didn’t suit everybody.Rightly so!
Le Guen was another that simply didnt get “it” about Rangers, or Scottish football.
How did that work out for JJ and Murty?
Murty is pretty openly loathed by sections of the support and JJ was questionable at Morton.
Note to delboy
Progress neidercorn in a bush
I think much of what Ferguson says about having to adapt at places like Tyncastle and Pittodrie is bang on... but the dismissive language about Pedro, that what was said got to the dressing room....Didn't do Johansson or Murty any harm did it ? When Pedro went, they were in charge for months.
That could've been Ferguson. Instead, he ran to the press (again) when he didn't get the gig and then clearly told players at the club what went on in the interview.
Also no one ever says "Yeah, but the Mexicans were a Helder Baptista signing"Just a point on Pedro ... yes he wasted millions on the Mexicans but that money will be recouped when we sell Morelos
“Ah but Morelos was a JJ signing” ... well he may have been recommended by JJ but Pedro was the man that sanctioned the signing and took the gamble on JJ’s word so ultimately he was a Pedro signing as much as some on here won’t like to admit
You not think Ally, Durrant etc all mouthed to the press as well? Difference being it was at a time where we were massively successful so noone cared.I think much of what Ferguson says about having at adapt at places like Tyncastle and Pittodrie is bang on... but the dismissive language about Pedro, that what was said got to the dressing room....
I just don’t see how it could ever work for Ferguson coaching or being an assistant at Rangers, the manager would need to be constantly looking over his shoulder.
Ferguson could have thought that the guy was a clown but banked on him being booted after a while and then Ferguson would be in a great position to take over.
Like with Le Guen, it was easier to just run his mouth off to his mates in the press.
Pedro set our club back a few years and spent millions of pounds on diddy’s and an alky but aye big bad ferguson.
Thank %^*& the 5 year thing will never happen
Also no one ever says "Yeah, but the Mexicans were a Helder Baptista signing"
Ultimately, all the signings were Pedros as he was the manager and in the main, they were failures.
I think much of what Ferguson says about having to adapt at places like Tyncastle and Pittodrie is bang on... but the dismissive language about Pedro, that what was said got to the dressing room....
I just don’t see how it could ever work for Ferguson coaching or being an assistant at Rangers, the manager would need to be constantly looking over his shoulder.
Ferguson could have thought that the guy was a clown but banked on him being booted after a while and then Ferguson would be in a great position to take over.
Like with Le Guen, it was easier to just run his mouth off to his mates in the press.
I agree.
But my point is on those that say he wasted millions. He did, but all of those wasted millions will be recouped with the sale of 1 of his signings.
That’s been my point ...
I laugh my socks off when people moan about Kenny Miller being a leak.... generations of Scottish footballers have been talked up in the press, to the national managers, agents and been eventually given ghost columns off the back of the dressing room gossip they shared with their favourite journalists.You not think Ally, Durrant etc all mouthed to the press as well? Difference being it was at a time where we were massively successful so noone cared.
I actually think Gerrard "got it" even before he walked in the door.Mibbee. But there are better ways and means other than just undermining him. PLG had an excellent pedigree when he came to Ibrox. He wanted everybody off burgers and beer which didn’t suit everybody.
He got no time at all to get going.
Do you think Gerrard ‘got it’ the minute he walked in the door. He does now.
Yeah but how much did Pedro add to Alifes value? I'd say Gerrard & his coaching team have done all the work on adding value to Alfie.
Pedro was our manager for 7 months, 1 1/2 months of which was the summer break. He saw Alfie score 8 goals.
Pedro can't take any credit for the fee we get for Alfie one day.
The fact that no one lost their job over that shambles (and the subsequent McInnes and Murty debacles) is even more bonkers.
How anyone thought that clown - the sort of manager someone like Motherwell or Kilmarnock would appoint - was a fitting addition to the illustrious managerial history of our club beggars belief quite frankly.
Some will say he would never have disrespected or publicly criticised Jock Wallace, Graeme Souness, Walter Smith or Steven Gerrard like that.
Very true, because they knew what they were doing.
That's the way the vast majority of galsgow talk, whats the problem? C.unt is a term of endearment in these parts.I don’t think Andy and Barry will ever sit at a MENSA meeting together.
Yes, Pedro was a maniac but referring to him as “that lady's front bottom” is ned, Tim behaviour
PLG also didn’t want players tackling in training.Mibbee. But there are better ways and means other than just undermining him. PLG had an excellent pedigree when he came to Ibrox. He wanted everybody off burgers and beer which didn’t suit everybody.
He got no time at all to get going.
Do you think Gerrard ‘got it’ the minute he walked in the door. He does now.
Doesn’t have to be one or the other
Can say Pedro wasted millions, sanctioned by the board I may add and still to this day find it incredible that none of them were booted out for such an outrageous waste of several years and millions
On the other hand you can also say the video sums up Ferguson and his attitude and why no manager could ever trust him working under him.
However, when Morelos is sold for a good few million, I’m sure we’ll see plenty of posts from you and others rightfully praising Pedro for sanctioning £1m to sign him and earning us many millions in profit ...
I’ll sit here and say right now, (if the old board is searchable you can look for my posts) I never wanted him and I wanted him gone even quicker. I can’t be won over with no green boots and some postersMind that time we were all circle wanking over that picture of Caixinha and Mendes et al rocking up to the Piggery.
Really? He knew what he was doing and happy to run the club into the ground? There's no question he was out of his depth and an appointment that should never been made, but I doubt he entered into it with malicious intentions. I suspect he had confidence in his ability and rapidly was found wanting, such as happens in every job in every walk of life.This in spades.
"Nice guy who did his best" "It wasn't his fault he was out his depth". The chancer knew what he was doing from that first interview and didn't care if he ran the club into the ground. It was all about getting his own name in lights.
It's no doubt been a sore few weeks for the poster on here who still maintains that he would have done just as good a job as Gerrard if given time.
I’ll bite. No bother.Nothing more than muck raking imo , seems it’s all a big laugh now but I’d rather the likes of Halliday remembered his own abject failures during that period because I certainly do and none of it is funny.
Well your Halliday point is a load of bull. He was mocked by them at Hampden, under Murty, after he was thrown under the bus.These people sit laughing that the manager doesn't know what he's doing whilst appearing oblivious to the fact that this manager thinks they are the ones good enough to bring success back to Rangers.
If Halliday had been more concerned about improving his own game so the Celtic fans wouldn't be laughing at him and chanting his name rather than laughing at the manager he might have done better.
That little clique within that dressing room needed gutted and now that it has been we are starting to see a bit more success.
I like Halliday, but let's be honest about it, not a great player. Probably not even a good one. Gets a pass because he's a bear by a lot of people but shouldn't have been anywhere near a Rangers team. We were piss poor for a long time and while the managers we had were a lot to do with it, there was some amount of dross on the pitch as well.Halliday rarely let us down in all honesty. I cant really remember a game where I think “wtf was he doing? He is a joke”.
On the flip, I remember exactly that with Pedro - on his first game at HT! Lol
Yet both stroll into their clubs hall of fame as 2 of the finest players ever to play for their illustrious teams.Gerrard wasn’t a ned at Liverpool who got stripped of the captaincy not once but twice.
Can only assume he’s referring to Wallace, Miller and co. Like you suggested, Stevie Gerrard isn’t going to have any trouble makers lingering about. I’d like to think Halliday showed his commitment and his usefulness as a squad player the past two seasons.Well your Halliday point is a load of bull. He was mocked by them at Hampden, under Murty, after he was thrown under the bus.
They chanted his name because he was one of us. No other reason.
Interested to know, who’s “that little clique” though?
Because SG was more than happy to have Halliday at the club for 2 years