BBC claims it is editorially fair.

borderbluenose said:
Apparently the BBC website has edited the SR interview and misses out the criticism of itself nut then responds to his statement so not balanced only giving their point of view and under a picture of McGregor's tacle on Ferguson

Balanced!!!! Goebells would be proud
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Its a pity we dont keep records of this sort of thing. Oh well we'll just need to suck it up until we do.
 
Axelrod said:
This is what I’ve said they are entrenched and don’t care who knows .

It doesn’t matter what Rangers , Robertson or even King say . Whoever makes these calls at Pacific Quay will continue to do so with impunity while pointing and laughing at us .

After Robertson spoke yesterday I’ve made up my mind not to watch any of sportscene not even the goals , but the next step it cancel the tv licence fee . Fck them. I don’t need bbc Scotland , it’s utter shit anyway .
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It get will get even worse when this new channel is set up on the 24th Feb
 
Tomted said:
Respect your position. However, seem to recall Archie McPherson speaking out in a way that Is likely to be consistent with your own position.
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Archie was a big Rangers man, so he probably got pissed off first hand with them Tomted.

His boy was in my brothers class at school. We regularly saw his younger son at away games when we were late teens / early twenties. Good bear.
 
Ronniemca said:
if the shoe was on the other foot Liewell would be in there lobbying MPs.He would have top lawyers collating evidence prior to a law suit against the BBC for harmful practice against the clue and it's brand.Just as he did against the SFA years ago ably abetted by Reid and the pink lawyer.We have no strategy other than an inhouse statement as per usual.And they are still laughing.
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I deliberately wait to see the response from the muck at that rancid poison shytehole that is Pathetic Quay.
Robertson interview was praised by many on here but for me the guy is just not comfortable in front of a camera and looks even less like a man who should be the main person in charge of the day to day running of a club the size of RFC
Making a statement saying the club have a letter proving the BBC have admitted to not treating us the same as everyone else and not actually showing said letter was yet another open goal he failed to take.
His showing in that interview was weak and almost apologetic tone, saying we should go back to the system employed last season and failing to mention the outrageous decisions (this season and last) by a Compliance Officer system that is clearly a total shambles and should be scrapped.
Are we to see once again the club make a statement and not for the first time fail to follow it up, especially given the lies in the reply from the BBC.
 
ItsInTheNet said:
BBC Scotland has insisted its football coverage and analysis is editorially fair after Rangers managing director Stewart Robertson claimed the broadcaster "vilified" striker Alfredo Morelos.

Robertson appeared to suggest that incidents involving Rangers players are highlighted more than others on TV highlights show Sportscene and claimed the coverage was influencing decisions made by SFA compliance officer Clare Whyte.
Robertson also criticised the SFA's approach to "re-refereeing" games, a week after goalkeeper Allan McGregor became the first Rangers player to be hit with a retrospective ban this season. Eight other top-flight players have received punishment after matches.

Robertson's comments came amid an ongoing long-term disagreement between Rangers and the BBC.

He told Rangers TV: "We understand incidents are highlighted from all sorts of sources. The correlation with Sportscene is obviously very high.

"We, as a club, have our own issues with the BBC Scotland. BBC have refused to attend Ibrox since November 2015 - and the dispute has gone on much longer than that.
"They recently asked to come to Ibrox, but only to cover the matches. They would not be interviewing our manager and our players.

"Now, if they are treating us differently in that respect, are there other areas where they are also treating Rangers differently in terms of the incidents which we are seeing being highlighted at the weekend?

"You only have to look at the Alfredo Morelos incident in the Old Firm game, where they seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time examining Alfredo's actions, but at no time at all did they look at any other actions from that game with the same scrutiny.
"Morelos was then effectively vilified for three weeks on various BBC platforms. So you have to question if they are treating us differently - they have confirmed in writing that they are treating us differently from every other Premiership club - where else are they treating us differently?"

After going into detail about Rangers' view of the stand-off with the broadcaster, Robertson added: "It is important the compliance officer isn't influenced unduly by Sportscene given that background. All we ever want from the BBC is to be treated fairly, in a balanced way and in an accurate way."

In a statement, BBC Scotland said: "The central part of this dispute is that Rangers is continuing to operate an exceptional ban of one of our journalists.
"We have offered to return to Ibrox to provide commentary, as per our contracted rights, while we try to find a permanent solution to the overall dispute, but Rangers have said this is unacceptable.

"Our coverage, including analysis and comment, is editorially fair.

"We will continue to speak to both Rangers and the SPFL about the situation as we believe it's in the best interest of our audiences to restore the ability to bring commentaries from all SPFL grounds."
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Just watching the news there...while reporting on being accused of disproportionate negative attention to Alfredo and our (justified) opinion that we are unfairly treated, they somehow managed to rerun every clip of Alfredo from the OF game again!! Top trolling from the experts on backstabbing.
 
Ponientebear said:
I deliberately wait to see the response from the muck at that rancid poison shytehole that is Pathetic Quay.
Robertson interview was praised by many on here but for me the guy is just not comfortable in front of a camera and looks even less like a man who should be the main person in charge of the day to day running of a club the size of RFC
Making a statement saying the club have a letter proving the BBC have admitted to not treating us the same as everyone else and not actually showing said letter was yet another open goal he failed to take.
His showing in that interview was weak and almost apologetic tone, saying we should go back to the system employed last season and failing to mention the outrageous decisions (this season and last) by a Compliance Officer system that is clearly a total shambles and should be scrapped.
Are we to see once again the club make a statement and not for the first time fail to follow it up, especially given the lies in the reply from the BBC.
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Agree with almost everything you and Ronniemca said in these two posts.

Incidentally, did you see Traynor’s weak effort on the news there. Pathetic. Why didn’t he want to go back over the outright lies Gollum told and got caught red handed telling when he got his privileges revoked?

As has been said, Paedo Protector FC would have a highly paid Quee... oops, sorry, QC working on sueing BBC CSC for damages to our business interests and brand and would also be lobbying Westminster MP’s to raise this in the House and with BBC London.

We are pathetic. Honestly. Just weak. I truly believe Dave King has the only pair of bawz anywhere in our club and he can’t be expected to do everything on his own
 
BBC’s report there saying Rangers were banned after a reported covered sectarian singing.

Nah McLaughlin was the final straw after a number of issues.

Starting match reports with the number of arrests etc, McCoist falling out of Ibrox and Jack’s head.

They’re a real shower. Filled with Sheep and Mhanks.
 
dublinbluenose said:
Hold on bbc Scotland’s mantra has been they won’t enter Ibrox until gollum’s press privileges have been restored,yet they just publicly admitted they asked rangers if they could attend Ibrox to cover games.this is clearly an attempt at making it look like rangers are stopping them covering our games at Ibrox.somebody can correct if I am wrong but as rangers haven’t banned the bbc from Ibrox there is nothing to stop them doing live reporting or commentating on our games at Ibrox
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They are a Public broadcasting company. They should provide a service ,they should admit their intransigence and get it sorted. Our club are being vilified due to their pettiness in this matter.
 
Arminius said:
Agree with almost everything you and Ronniemca said in these two posts.

Incidentally, did you see Traynor’s weak effort on the news there. Pathetic. Why didn’t he want to go back over the outright lies Gollum told and got caught red handed telling when he got his privileges revoked?
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And do you think if Traynor had said anything negative about Gollum the BBC wouldn't have edited it out??
 
Montyplums said:
The BBC cannot be trusted to be 'editorially fair' - just because they say they are in a statement they're thinking 'that's a good enough reply'. It's not!
We somehow need to keep the pressure on these b@stards.
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Came in to the thread to post a similar sentiment: the BBC can't be left to decide if the BBC are 'editorially fair', they need to be challenged on this point as well.

BBC Scotland are not editorially fair, they are bias, openly bias and we should not be fobbed off with BBC Scotland saying that BBC Scotland are editorially fair. We should challenge them constantly, after every broadcast in which they negatively report and portray Rangers and Rangers fans. Highlighting this via social media and linking to other media outlets costs nothing.
 
ItsInTheNet said:
BBC Scotland has insisted its football coverage and analysis is editorially fair after Rangers managing director Stewart Robertson claimed the broadcaster "vilified" striker Alfredo Morelos.

Robertson appeared to suggest that incidents involving Rangers players are highlighted more than others on TV highlights show Sportscene and claimed the coverage was influencing decisions made by SFA compliance officer Clare Whyte.
Robertson also criticised the SFA's approach to "re-refereeing" games, a week after goalkeeper Allan McGregor became the first Rangers player to be hit with a retrospective ban this season. Eight other top-flight players have received punishment after matches.

Robertson's comments came amid an ongoing long-term disagreement between Rangers and the BBC.

He told Rangers TV: "We understand incidents are highlighted from all sorts of sources. The correlation with Sportscene is obviously very high.

"We, as a club, have our own issues with the BBC Scotland. BBC have refused to attend Ibrox since November 2015 - and the dispute has gone on much longer than that.
"They recently asked to come to Ibrox, but only to cover the matches. They would not be interviewing our manager and our players.

"Now, if they are treating us differently in that respect, are there other areas where they are also treating Rangers differently in terms of the incidents which we are seeing being highlighted at the weekend?

"You only have to look at the Alfredo Morelos incident in the Old Firm game, where they seemed to spend an inordinate amount of time examining Alfredo's actions, but at no time at all did they look at any other actions from that game with the same scrutiny.
"Morelos was then effectively vilified for three weeks on various BBC platforms. So you have to question if they are treating us differently - they have confirmed in writing that they are treating us differently from every other Premiership club - where else are they treating us differently?"

After going into detail about Rangers' view of the stand-off with the broadcaster, Robertson added: "It is important the compliance officer isn't influenced unduly by Sportscene given that background. All we ever want from the BBC is to be treated fairly, in a balanced way and in an accurate way."

In a statement, BBC Scotland said: "The central part of this dispute is that Rangers is continuing to operate an exceptional ban of one of our journalists.
"We have offered to return to Ibrox to provide commentary, as per our contracted rights, while we try to find a permanent solution to the overall dispute, but Rangers have said this is unacceptable.

"Our coverage, including analysis and comment, is editorially fair.

"We will continue to speak to both Rangers and the SPFL about the situation as we believe it's in the best interest of our audiences to restore the ability to bring commentaries from all SPFL grounds."
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Adjudicating on themselves is not justification, a totally independent arbitrator would find them 100% guilty as exposed by Robertson they are getting away with murder and they know it, don't pay the licence fee until BBC Scotland are cleansed and truly fair and not regulated by themselves.
 
omegaman said:
Well, we didn’t really expect an organisation this petty to suddenly own up to their brazen bias did we?

What I still don’t quite understand though is why BBC HQ in London continue to allow their Scottish counterparts to duck exclusives from the biggest club in the country.

Either they have considerably more autonomy than expected, or London are fully supportive of this nonsense.

Ordinarily I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it, but the influence Sportscene are beginning to have over our onfield fortunes makes this whole standoff far more serious and even sinister.

Robertson didn’t miss with his comments, but we need to scale up the extent of our influence and that needs a lot of clever boxing that I’ve not seen a great deal of evidence of from this board.
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They don’t miss all the exclusives. Anything damaging to the club, Pacific Quay CSC are first to highlight and publicise with meticulous scrutiny. They even had the cheek and audacity to show a challenge by Morelos to prove there neutrality and non bias. Hypocrites!
 
Arminius said:
Agree with almost everything you and Ronniemca said in these two posts.

Incidentally, did you see Traynor’s weak effort on the news there. Pathetic. Why didn’t he want to go back over the outright lies Gollum told and got caught red handed telling when he got his privileges revoked?

As has been said, Paedo Protector FC would have a highly paid Quee... oops, sorry, QC working on sueing BBC CSC for damages to our business interests and brand and would also be lobbying Westminster MP’s to raise this in the House and with BBC London.

We are pathetic. Honestly. Just weak. I truly believe Dave King has the only pair of bawz anywhere in our club and he can’t be expected to do everything on his own
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To be fair mate , and I understand your frustration , how do you know that trainors interview wasn’t edited ? They’ve already edited Robertson’s criticism of themselves ffs . You can’t trust what they put out .
 
The BBC have admitted to and apologised for the following:

Calling Kevin Thomson a C@@t, editing footage of the Rangers manager to make him look like a bigot, using sectarian language to describe rangers fans and using a beheaded Rangers player on a piece to illustrate slow ticket sales at Aberdeen. There are more that I have missed, no doubt. There is also the ongoing issue with Chris McLaughlin.

Now, based on the above you have to ask if there is a sinister theme to the above, or if it is just unprofessional, poor journalism and editorial standards.

My take is that there is 'institutional sectarianism' within the BBC.
 
BBC Scotland know the agenda they are pursuing .They know we know, however they are untouchable and beyond public and to an extent political accountability.
They continuously forensically scrutinise all Rangers games looking to highlight something to our detriment.They then suggest punishment should follow .
The BBC editorial team simultaneously bury any incident that could result in player of the Parkhead club being punished retrospectively by the compliant compliance officer .
The vendetta is two pronged ,they are attacking Rangers FC over the journalistic feud and at the same time giving septic minded staff a free hand to give an advantage to their scum bag club.
 
HillbillyRFC said:
BBC’s report there saying Rangers were banned after a reported covered sectarian singing.

Nah McLaughlin was the final straw after a number of issues.

Starting match reports with the number of arrests etc, McCoist falling out of Ibrox and Jack’s head.

They’re a real shower. Filled with Sheep and Mhanks.
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How many times have the tims MATCH REPORTS had mentioned sectarian singing ? Zilch.
 
Montyplums said:
The BBC cannot be trusted to be 'editorially fair' - just because they say they are in a statement they're thinking 'that's a good enough reply'. It's not!
We somehow need to keep the pressure on these b@stards.
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We do. Investigating themselves is a joke.
 
Another belter from a BBC employee dick gordon now saying rangers fans broke 200 seats at pittodrie a fortnight ago:)):)) I wonder why hes brought that up....
 
Jjbscotty said:
Another belter from a BBC employee dick gordon now saying rangers fans broke 200 seats at pittodrie a fortnight ago:)):)) I wonder why hes brought that up....
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It they want to go down the route of tit for tat then our club have to be highlighting publically every single bit of damage, missile throwing, sectarian abuse against us, sheep will not be innocent of any of that
 
Arminius said:
Agree with almost everything you and Ronniemca said in these two posts.

Incidentally, did you see Traynor’s weak effort on the news there. Pathetic. Why didn’t he want to go back over the outright lies Gollum told and got caught red handed telling when he got his privileges revoked?

As has been said, Paedo Protector FC would have a highly paid Quee... oops, sorry, QC working on sueing BBC CSC for damages to our business interests and brand and would also be lobbying Westminster MP’s to raise this in the House and with BBC London.

We are pathetic. Honestly. Just weak. I truly believe Dave King has the only pair of bawz anywhere in our club and he can’t be expected to do everything on his own
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Sorry can’t agree about Kings part in this little man’s appointment, King obviously believes he is right for the day to day running of the club, now whether Robertson’s remit is simply to follow his orders while KIng makes the big decisions then we’re overpaying a glorified message boy and have an absent Chairman who has his own businesses to concentrate on.
We need a man who is confident making these big decisions and more importantly being given free reign to do so.
Robertson is not that man.
 
gmbear said:
Came in to the thread to post a similar sentiment: the BBC can't be left to decide if the BBC are 'editorially fair', they need to be challenged on this point as well.

BBC Scotland are not editorially fair, they are bias, openly bias and we should not be fobbed off with BBC Scotland saying that BBC Scotland are editorially fair. We should challenge them constantly, after every broadcast in which they negatively report and portray Rangers and Rangers fans. Highlighting this via social media and linking to other media outlets costs nothing.
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Yes, we need to be full time on this or Robertson's interview (years late) was a complete waste of breath.
 
HillbillyRFC said:
I’ve never seen a match report - before or after - which leads off in the intro about the number of arrests made.

I have also never seen - before or after - a journalist being privy to the match delegates report.

Just so happened to be at a Rangers game with Chris though.
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Exactly HB. That was sinister !
 
This is where we fall down, there are arguments on here about whether it's a ban or not and a lot of the information regarding the BBC is forgotton or remembered incorrectly.

Following Stewart Robertson's interview a friendly outlet should have given a concise and accurate run down of how we arrived here. This could then be used by Rangers fans when countering the inevitable backlash against his comments.
 
JimmyBuffetloyal said:
BBC Scotland know the agenda they are pursuing .They know we know, however they are untouchable and beyond public and to an extent political accountability.
They continuously forensically scrutinise all Rangers games looking to highlight something to our detriment.They then suggest punishment should follow .
The BBC editorial team simultaneously bury any incident that could result in player of the Parkhead club being punished retrospectively by the compliant compliance officer .
The vendetta is two pronged ,they are attacking Rangers FC over the journalistic feud and at the same time giving septic minded staff a free hand to give an advantage to their scum bag club.
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Correct but what are we doing about it? To answer my own question, we should be gathering evidence of the bias, double standards and lies. We should be producing reports full of stats and hard facts, quantitative and qualitative. Anything less than this will just be dismissed as nonsense.
 
alex wright said:
This is where we fall down, there are arguments on here about whether it's a ban or not and a lot of the information regarding the BBC is forgotton or remembered incorrectly.

Following Stewart Robertson's interview a friendly outlet should have given a concise and accurate run down of how we arrived here. This could then be used by Rangers fans when countering the inevitable backlash against his comments.
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Why not employ a qualified researcher?
 
Ponientebear said:
I deliberately wait to see the response from the muck at that rancid poison shytehole that is Pathetic Quay.
Robertson interview was praised by many on here but for me the guy is just not comfortable in front of a camera and looks even less like a man who should be the main person in charge of the day to day running of a club the size of RFC
Making a statement saying the club have a letter proving the BBC have admitted to not treating us the same as everyone else and not actually showing said letter was yet another open goal he failed to take.
His showing in that interview was weak and almost apologetic tone, saying we should go back to the system employed last season and failing to mention the outrageous decisions (this season and last) by a Compliance Officer system that is clearly a total shambles and should be scrapped.
Are we to see once again the club make a statement and not for the first time fail to follow it up, especially given the lies in the reply from the BBC.
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I agree seems too nice for this particular role, we are at war with several factions here in my opinion we need a Rottweiler in this role
 
HillbillyRFC said:
I’ve never seen a match report - before or after - which leads off in the intro about the number of arrests made.

I have also never seen - before or after - a journalist being privy to the match delegates report.

Just so happened to be at a Rangers game with Chris though.
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The match delegate for the game was an ex Celtic employee of I remember correct.
 
LOL 133 said:
Correct but what are we doing about it? To answer my own question, we should be gathering evidence of the bias, double standards and lies. We should be producing reports full of stats and hard facts, quantitative and qualitative. Anything less than this will just be dismissed as nonsense.
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%^*& all. We stuck out statements and interviews but we don’t back them with facts or factual statistics. Neither do we put pressure on BBC down south or do a continued media round up of inconsistencies. We could nip this on the head. Our absolutely piss poor PR indicates the board get irked but have no appetite to go on the front foot. It’s actively costing us points. I’m sick to the back teeth of this part of our set up.
 
Southsideblueblood said:
%^*& all. We stuck out statements and interviews but we don’t back them with facts or factual statistics. Neither do we put pressure on BBC down south or do a continued media round up of inconsistencies. We could nip this on the head. Our absolutely piss poor PR indicates the board get irked but have no appetite to go on the front foot. It’s actively costing us points. I’m sick to the back teeth of this part of our set up.
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I hear you loud and clear. Its a disgrace that we as supporters have to put up with this day in and day out with no one at Ibrox prepared to make a proper stand. I reckon wee Stewy Robertson only did the interview because he's beginning to feel the heat from our own fans. He'd much rather just stay in his office and hope it all goes away. Maybe Gerrard had a word with him and asked for support. Who knows.
 
Would be good if Rangers provided the evidence of why they are wrong and asked for comment. They would simply have no response as their agenda is immensely clear.
 
devilman said:
Would be good if Rangers provided the evidence of why they are wrong and asked for comment. They would simply have no response as their agenda is immensely clear.
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That would require people at the club to monitor BBC Scotland output and compile statistics.

Why isn't this being done?
 
Bbc news claims BJK was told back then with people as high as MI5 told him the head of sportscene was a bear from the cradle. Feck if this is a clutching at straws :D
 
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