BBC Lies this morning

buster60

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What's it got to do with Gary Robertson anyway? He's not a sports reporter. First time I've seen him even comment on football. Trash just like the rest of his BBC Scotland pals
 

zorro

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On Catholics who knocked us back, I'm sure there was an interview with an Irish Republic international although english) who rumoured to have been approached where he said that he would have no issues signing and there was Houghton who I'm sure said he couldn't do that to his family.
Also Woods was asked what religion he was at his unveiling and David Holmes went tonto at the reporter saying that was not an issue for his rangers.
I suspect what he wanted to say was that some people who wanted us to sign Catho,ICS wouldn't be happy when we did.
 

insanicdrunk

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On Catholics who knocked us back, I'm sure there was an interview with an Irish Republic international although english) who rumoured to have been approached where he said that he would have no issues signing and there was Houghton who I'm sure said he couldn't do that to his family.
This!! There have been a few players that we tried to sign that wouldnt come because of the grief the other side would give them.
 

adidasler

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It was a big story because it was supposed to be the return of the prodigal son.

The fact he came to us and was welcomed (by the majority) sent the beasts into another one of their legendary hate-fests.

The fact that the press have dropped the nauseating "first high profile...." prefix just shows up their current mindset.

Fcked up individuals.
 

minder

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Frank McAvennie was approached by Graeme Souness to sign for us in 1987 when he was at West Ham.Remember him talking about it years ago.
If,of course he was telling the truth
 

Goggs21

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A complaint has to go in on this one. It’s this kind of shite that fuels bigotry!
Rangers should nail them for their blatant lies
They should also add in a statement that Rangers Football Club have never and will never deny any employee promotion due to colour or religion....BJK
We need to wise up as a club and start turning their negative stories around on them, they make it so easy, show them up by demanding the truth
 

Ibrox Bear

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Johnstone was the first ex scum RC player to play for Rangers, another first for the famous Glasgow Rangers
How long did it take them to sign an ex Ranger ?
 

ScotiaPapac

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I always find it strange that they see our historic ‘policy’ as evil (even though it benefitted them if anything) without contextualising it, but shrug off their inability to report Paedos to the Police with an ‘Ach, it’s just how it was back then’.
 

rfcforever

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Seem to recall us sniffing around Phil Babb.

Souness has come away with crap about MoJo being the first catholic signing completely ignoring the fact that John Spencer was already at the club.
 

rfcforever

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Johnstone was the first ex scum RC player to play for Rangers, another first for the famous Glasgow Rangers
How long did it take them to sign an ex Ranger ?
To be fair they signed Alfie Conn. However, I would not be surprised to see 19th century transfers between the clubs. Hopefully another poster has this information to hand
 

AzorIbrox

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The religion matters to no one. Even recently we’ve supposed to have been outraged at Jon Daly because he’s an Irish RC or Barisic because he goes to chapel.

I think our issue is with signing ‘Celtic men’. Obviously MoJo, McCann etc put everything behind them and became superstars but we’ve been stung by folk like O Halloran for example who bad attitude the entire time showed he had no interest here other than the pay check.

Our haters constantly want this to be about religion but it’s not.
 

StuMac1972

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To be fair they signed Alfie Conn. However, I would not be surprised to see 19th century transfers between the clubs. Hopefully another poster has this information to hand
Pre-warEdit
 

temperance

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Strange that not so much was made of Basque clubs signing Basque players only, Yorkshire CC signing Yorkshire born players only, which I believe was true, but the lie that Rangers wouldn’t sign Catholic’s is looked upon with horror.
 

Moses McNeil

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They conveniently forget that when we signed Mo Johnston that we already had John Spencer, who was a catholic, on our books.
 

Stez64

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On Catholics who knocked us back, I'm sure there was an interview with an Irish Republic international although english) who rumoured to have been approached where he said that he would have no issues signing and there was Houghton who I'm sure said he couldn't do that to his family.
Also Woods was asked what religion he was at his unveiling and David Holmes went tonto at the reporter saying that was not an issue for his rangers.
I suspect what he wanted to say was that some people who wanted us to sign Catho,ICS wouldn't be happy when we did.
Re Woods, the reporter stated after the interview, "for the record, Church of England "
 

Alex Venters

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It absolutely was Houghton and Collins, Souness spoke about it and said both actually seemed keen but then bottled it after speaking with their families who were against it.
John Sheridan was one who turned the move down at around the same time as Houghton. Collins was slightly later.
 

gersfan2

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It seems to me that the BBC and SNP think they can do and say what they like and are answerable to no one. That means it’s up to us, the public, to do the walking away from these two bigoted organisations.
 

rfcforever

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The religion matters to no one. Even recently we’ve supposed to have been outraged at Jon Daly because he’s an Irish RC or Barisic because he goes to chapel.

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Big Jorg Albertz is also a church going RC. Obviously we have always hated him for that.:eek:

This whole historical signing policy crap has grown arms and legs over the years. Celtc were undeniably formed for sectarian reasons and as such were always going to attract the best RC players.

As the premier club in the country we would only be interested in signing the best players regardless of background, but if the best RCs knocked us back to join celtc why would we sign second rate RCs?

RC church influence was strong, certainly in the 70s. I was involved in Boys Brigade during that period and when RC kids occasionally joined our company they quickly quit after a visit from the local priest. Hardly surprising that prominent RC players such as Houghton would back away from us citing family issues as reason for not signing.
 

Mr.Spock

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I'm pretty certain that Walter wanted to sign Paul Hartley,it obviously didn't happen (thank feck) and probably for the same reason as Houghton and Collins.
 

rfcforever

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Pre-warEdit
Thanks mate
 

Cambuslang Bear

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'Rangers don't sign catholics' used to be the big stick they constantly beat us with.

30 years later, the stick has been rebranded - 'Rangers didn't sign catholics'

Never mind that cfc had a policy of having a catholic only board, all inclusive my arrrse.
Or a history of covering up child abuse
 

deedle

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The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.

Rangers originally signed Roman Catholic players but appear to have stopped at some stage during the First World War. No-one has ever definitely established why or who was primarily responsible. Although the recruitment of footballers like Laurie Blyth and Don Kichenbrand has been cited as 'proof' the club didn't have a restrictive signing policy, it is far more likely these players were signed in the belief they were Protestants.

The board and support clearly viewed Rangers as representing the Scottish Protestant community and they would have argued that signing only Protestants was simply a logical extension of that position. In those days football clubs were certainly not perceived as 'equal opportunity employers' like the local supermarket.

In truth, no-one bothered too much until the mid-60s. We are talking about times when an Orange parade in the East End of Glasgow took priority over a Celtic-Rangers match and when the Parkhead club had been requested to stop flying the Irish tricolour from the main stand. The Republic of Ireland was not seen in anything like the terms it is today but rather as a hostile entity that had connived with Nazi Germany (it had to wait until the mid-50s before the USSR agreed to its membership of the UN).

Some injudicious words from Ralph Brand in an interview following his departure from Rangers marked the point when the 'signing policy' became a talking-point in the press. Jock Stein alluded to it, presumably in an attempt to seize the high-ground.

By the 70s much of the media saw a correlation between the 'signing policy' and the hooliganism that was increasingly troubling the club, although there wasn't really any evidence to support this point. By the 80s it was being seriously claimed that Rangers signing Catholics would end 'sectarianism' in Scotland. There is no doubt, though, that the club was coming under pressure and would have had to adapt in light of the increasing difficulty in fielding a top-class side comprising only Scots. Most Rangers fans I spoke to back then accepted the club had to change if we were to progress - by that stage negative campaigning could have a serious impact on advertising/sponsorship/etc.

Ultimately, those who castigate Rangers most vociferously have to accept that a club is defined by its board and its support. Players are only transient figures. Surveys carried out of the supports of Rangers and Celtic show that they are almost entirely Protestant or Catholic (or describe themselves thus).

The Mo Jo signing didn't really change anything in terms of the bigger picture. It is now only being referenced as a stick to beat Rangers with.
 

Chocolateleftfoot

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The religion matters to no one. Even recently we’ve supposed to have been outraged at Jon Daly because he’s an Irish RC or Barisic because he goes to chapel.

I think our issue is with signing ‘Celtic men’. Obviously MoJo, McCann etc put everything behind them and became superstars but we’ve been stung by folk like O Halloran for example who bad attitude the entire time showed he had no interest here other than the pay check.

Our haters constantly want this to be about religion but it’s not.
Pretty sure Daly is on record as saying that the only supporters that gave him any abuse about it was theirs.
 

BlueHaze

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Pre-warEdit
Every editor of newspapers papers and producers of TVs news programes should get a copy that and be warned if they lie again they will be in court.
 
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