BBC Lies this morning

Huckleberry

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Shit stirring of the highest order from the bold Jackson,a none story so well regurgitate so called sectarian nonsense to deflect from a real story unfolding of deviant practices that transpired at his beloved club over the last fifty years.
 

gersandproud

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What exactly is a 'high profile catholic' ?

Is that someone like Adams, or McGuinness ?
Or is it anyone blessed by the man who lives in the vatican ?

Didn't know Mojo qualified
Any other nominations ?

Of course if they mean high profile player then wouldn't Don Kitchenbrand be in this category ?

Then with John Spencer & Phil Boersma both registered as players on our books - Mo was the third catholic at our club when he arrived

Is there anything remotely honest, trustworthy or true in this pile of $hite ?
 

ICA_86

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The club need to publicly challenge this.

We had Catholic players before Celtic were even formed.
 

Discodale

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Another complaint in to BBC Scotland.

I’m guessing I’ll get the same bland standard reply as most with most complaints to them, but I’ll keep going with it after the first, inevitable, nonsense they come back with.
 

JimmyBuffetloyal

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It absolutely was Houghton and Collins, Souness spoke about it and said both actually seemed keen but then bottled it after speaking with their families who were against it.
I thought Collins was after the Mo Johnston signing, could be wrong. Another rumour at the time was Graeme Sharp from Everton.
 

Div1872

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Complaint sent to BBC

Hope club take action against Gary Robertson and BBC Scotland for repeated lies and bias coverage against us

We have a file to prove it now the club should raise a court action and issue a full blown ban across BBC UK wide

Enough is enough
 

WalterLoyal

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On Catholics who knocked us back, I'm sure there was an interview with an Irish Republic international although english) who rumoured to have been approached where he said that he would have no issues signing and there was Houghton who I'm sure said he couldn't do that to his family.
Also Woods was asked what religion he was at his unveiling and David Holmes went tonto at the reporter saying that was not an issue for his rangers.
I suspect what he wanted to say was that some people who wanted us to sign Catho,ICS wouldn't be happy when we did.
It has been reported this week that Ray Houghton and John Collins both knocked us back. McAvennie has today also claimed he knocked us back when he played with St Mirren so that makes three.
 

Lanark Bear in the NE

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'Rangers don't sign catholics' used to be the big stick they constantly beat us with.

30 years later, the stick has been rebranded - 'Rangers didn't sign catholics'

Never mind that cfc had a policy of having a catholic only board, all inclusive my arrrse.
Indeed. The very reason that Big Jock Knew, was never invited onto the CFC Board.
A Club for All ! Nope
 

daven37

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Complaint sent.

Comment below from Gary Robertson - Presenter of Good Morning Scotland - BBC Radio Scotland 92-95FM, 810MW & on digital

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It's 30 years since Mo Johnston became the first ever Catholic player to sign for Rangers.
Journalist Keith Jackson had a hand in breaking the story for the Sun newspaper. He's now the chief football writer for the @Daily_Record
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10:54 PM - 9 Jul 2019

This is complete lies - Mo Johnston was not the first catholic player to sign for Rangers. Please ask Mr Robertson to remove the offending tweet and apologise to Rangers FC and Rangers supporters for this blatant lie.

Another reason why Rangers fans think there is an agenda within the BBC to tarnish the name of Rangers FC.

I grudgingly pay a licence fee for your service - I don't see why I should be reading false information like this.

Thanks.
 

LOL 133

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It has been reported this week that Ray Houghton and John Collins both knocked us back. McAvennie has today also claimed he knocked us back when he played with St Mirren so that makes three.
They're bigots but you wont read that in the press.

RCs refused to join the RUC then complained that they were under represented in the service.
 

Moses McNeil

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Pretty sure Daly is on record as saying that the only supporters that gave him any abuse about it was theirs.
Tom English interviewed Jon Daly and insinuated that he had a hard time winning over the Rangers fans. Daly responded saying Rangers fans were brilliant with him and that it was people back in Ireland that gave him a hard time. Obviously not the response he was expecting to fuel his agenda.
 

TAFKA Earl C etc

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Let's be blunt here - a sly nod and a wink (and a back-hander) from Hoolicom PR and, ta-dah!, another puff piece generated with the sole intent of denigrating Rangers and shuffling the spotlight away from the biggest scandal in European sporting history. Paranoid? Hell, no. Grounded in reality? Hell, yeah.
 

Timardim

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Trust me on this one, even if we were interested, we'd never have got Frank Gray.

But anyway, regards a so called sporting organisation who have always claimed they were open to all why did it take over a century to have a Protestant director?
I didn't know they had or have one ?
 

Der Berliner

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The main problem I have with stuff like this is that it comes from BBC chaps who will be taken as serious by people not ITK. When DAZN showed the last Old Firm game, the amount of rubbish spouted by the reporter (IMHO unwittingly) regarding us and them - Catholics vs Protestants, Irish and whatnot - were purest early 80s stereotypes rather than anything informed, leading to lines such as: "Never ever would the Protestant Rangers make a guard of honour for the Catholic Celtic players."

That is the reason why this bile and blackmail from the BBC must be fought actively. The journos world-wide won`t know the state of affairs with BBC Scotland and take their word as gospel, relying on the respectability of the BBC as such.

As for the MoJo lie, we saw how they twisted the argument in every direction. From Catholics to Irish Catholics to Catholic ex-Celtic players and Irish Catholic ex-Celtic players and/or Catholic players of rank and name (such as MoJo).

The main bone of contention for them is that MoJo was a Celtic star man before he signed for us ... and IMHO, the Catholic bit was just peddling to stereotypes.

They won`t want to know about other Catholics at the time and before, they won`t want to know about what happened to MoJo after he left us. They have the propaganda machine on their side these days (as for a decade or more, MoJo wasn`t a topic) and utilize it to their tune. Just note the rubbish Humzah spouts about strict liability when all he relies on is more fiction than fact.

As for Catholics playing for Rangers, a number of lists have been published (and I`m not able to verify them), like ...

Archie 'Punch' Kyle 1904 - 1908
Willie Kivlichan 1906 - 1907
Colin Mainds 1906 - 1907
Tom Murray 1907 - 1908
Pat Lafferty 1886 (before Celtic existed)
Tom Dunbar 1891 - 1892
J Tutty 1899 - 1900
William Brown 1912
Joe Donnachie c.1914 - 1918
John Jackson 1917
Laurie Blyth 1951 - 1952
Don Kichenbrand 1955 - 1956
Hugh O'Neill 1976
John Spencer 1984

Different select (needs double checking)
Archie Kyle
Willie “Doc” Kivlichan (Who, like Johnston, was an Ex-Celtic player)
Colin Mainds
Tom Murray
Pat Lafferty
Johnny Jackson
James Tutty
Tom Dunbar (Brother of Michael Dunbar who became a Celtic director)
Joe Donnachie
Hugh O’Neill
Constantine McGhie
Don Kichenbrand
Laurie Blyth
John Spencer
McCallum
Brown
Wylie
John Clare
Johnny Kennedy
Charles McCafferty (Never made a first team appearance)
Daniel Divers
Chris Houston
John Manners
Bob Cleary
George (or Gorg) Banciewicz
Eddie Devenney
Terry Sloan
Brian Grubb
Edward Devlin
Andy Casey
Tom Cassidy
Bob "Dancer" Dunn
Peter Mone
"Starry" McLachlan,

... and from Bill Murray, The Old Firm – Sectarianism, Sport and Society in Scotland (John Donald Publishers, 1984) pp 64–5

Catholics who signed for Rangers before Johnston include, before the end of World War I: Pat Lafferty (1886), Tom Dunbar (1891–1892), J Tutty (1899–1900), Archie Kyle (1904–1908), Willie Kivlichan (1906–1907), Colin Mainds (1906–1907), Tom Murray (1907–1908), William Brown (1912), Joe Donnachie (circa.1914–1918) and John Jackson (1917). Thereafter, Catholic players prior to Mo Johnston's signing include: Laurie Blyth (1951–1952), Don Kitchenbrand (1955–1956), Hugh O'Neill (1976), John Spencer (1985–1992)
If you go through our players lists after MoJo, you`ll probably find dozens of Catholics ... but in all honesty, nobody actually cared whether Amato, Darcheville, Caniggia, Albertz, Cuellar and Co. were Catholics or not. They were people pulling on the jersey of the Famous and we adored them for that.
 

imvaison

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Tom English interviewed Jon Daly and insinuated that he had a hard time winning over the Rangers fans. Daly responded saying Rangers fans were brilliant with him and that it was people back in Ireland that gave him a hard time. Obviously not the response he was expecting to fuel his agenda.
Remember that.
Decent man Jon Daly and certainly more honest than Tom English.
 

Laudrup11Cooper

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I saw it as the first "high profile" catholic on one report.

Players away back in the dim and distant past were not exactly "high profile" even if they were internationalists or first team regulars.

Yes …I think that term has been added to the story over the years to make them not looking like complete prats for once again not doing their research.
Ah…too late!
 

BlueHaze

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It just grates me when the club don,t come out and put these lies to rest,They shouldn,t need too but if journos are determined not to do their job properly then the club need to highlight it.
 

BlueBaloo

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What exactly is a 'high profile catholic' ?

Is that someone like Adams, or McGuinness ?
Or is it anyone blessed by the man who lives in the vatican ?

Didn't know Mojo qualified
Any other nominations ?

Of course if they mean high profile player then wouldn't Don Kitchenbrand be in this category ?

Then with John Spencer & Phil Boersma both registered as players on our books - Mo was the third catholic at our club when he arrived

Is there anything remotely honest, trustworthy or true in this pile of $hite ?
Phil Boresma was our physio mate... GS brought him in
Far I as I know he never actually played for us
 

Gogso

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It absolutely was Houghton and Collins, Souness spoke about it and said both actually seemed keen but then bottled it after speaking with their families who were against it.
Their families were bigots clearly. Stopped the huge earnings potential over being RC’s.
 

BSPECIAL

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Frank McAvennie was approached by Graeme Souness to sign for us in 1987 when he was at West Ham.Remember him talking about it years ago.
If,of course he was telling the truth
Can't see that being true.Not the most honest of people.
 

Cutty/Young

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I might be coming across as a bit thick here, can someone explain why Rangers have forever had the boot put into them for this non signing of catholics but we have signed catholics throughout our history. So the question is, why do they constantly claim that MJ was the first high profile catholic to join the club ?

It's pretty obvious that Rangers signed plenty of catholics and the issue with them over the years is signing catholics, nowhere does it say " Rangers have had a history of not signing high profile catholics", their issue is with the club signing catholics, we've signed loads of them, so what difference does it make whether they are high profile or not, so signing catholics that aren't high profile doesn't count.
 

rodwallace

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Tom English interviewed Jon Daly and insinuated that he had a hard time winning over the Rangers fans. Daly responded saying Rangers fans were brilliant with him and that it was people back in Ireland that gave him a hard time. Obviously not the response he was expecting to fuel his agenda.
I liked Daly. Great competitor.
 

imvaison

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So the BBC apologise for a “gaffe”.
Oh dear, they must think they made a mistake and not in fact told outright lies. Nothing new then.
 

borderbluenose

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So the BBC apologise for a “gaffe”.
Oh dear, they must think they made a mistake and not in fact told outright lies. Nothing new then.
It confirms the agenda they have had since Opus Dei infiltrated they want to control issues and the news not report it
 

sheddensbear

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I might be coming across as a bit thick here, can someone explain why Rangers have forever had the boot put into them for this non signing of catholics but we have signed catholics throughout our history. So the question is, why do they constantly claim that MJ was the first high profile catholic to join the club ?

It's pretty obvious that Rangers signed plenty of catholics and the issue with them over the years is signing catholics, nowhere does it say " Rangers have had a history of not signing high profile catholics", their issue is with the club signing catholics, we've signed loads of them, so what difference does it make whether they are high profile or not, so signing catholics that aren't high profile doesn't count.
There is no doubt that at some time in our history, we decided against signing RC's and this didn't change till John Spencer signed. I've been watching Rangers since the 1950s and you just accepted we didn't sign RCs.
 
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