It’s not a lifetime banI’m afraid I have to agree, everyone knows you can’t run on to a pitch, even in the heat of the moment you are going to get done, but a lifetime ban is scandalous.
It’s not a lifetime banI’m afraid I have to agree, everyone knows you can’t run on to a pitch, even in the heat of the moment you are going to get done, but a lifetime ban is scandalous.
There’s no hypocrisy. If they’d been charged they’d be banned. They weren’t. You’re lashing out at everybody else and it’s nobody else’s fault.Who said one made the other right ?
What I said is the hypocrisy knows no bounds . The club are happy to publicly hammer a 15 year old boy for going on the park and “ show they mean business” , but when it comes to fans extremely well known to the club behaving in a way that UEFA deem worthy of partial closure of Ibrox , suddenly we are all collectively to blame , no bannings, no letters , no tickets removed or removal from travel club . We can all see the double standards here , I know you can as well you just won’t admit it .
A case of the club as usual taking the route of least resistance , opportunism to hammer an easy target , look how strict we are . In much the same way they like to blame the union bears for everything and anything that happens at one of our games, and turn a blind eye to all the rest .
How can this be a shock to anybody? How is warning after warning going to sort the problem? 3 times of being identified via the media and charged along with the bad publicity before any action is taken?The club should have ordered the kid to a meeting on a set date at a set time. Gave him a final written warning on the matter.
I feel it needs stamped out, but there are ways to do these things.
After that? A 3 month ban.
Then maybe indefinite.
There’s last minute winners almost every week in most leagues and fans stay in the stands.An absolute joke. In a country where we should be looking to get as many fans through the gates as possible, to treat fans like that is ridiculous.
A last minute winner anywhere in the world would have been celebrated like that.
Situations are incomparable.
Fans running on for a scrap on the centre of the pitch compared to a 15 year old celebrating a list minute winner with his heroes.
There’s last minute winners almost every week in most leagues and fans stay in the stands.
Last minute winner yesterday in the FA cup, 90+7 minutes, fans on the park. Wonder what will happen here:
1. It will be shown over and over and proclaimed 'the magic of the cup'.
2, The club safety officer will ban the lot of them.
I think I know which will happen.
It’s being reviewed after the case, what’s over the top?He shouldn’t be on the park . Nobody should , we get that part . The fact is it’s totally OTT by the club .
We’ve had fans going on for years. I have a feeling there’s more to this but either way going on the pitch needed to stop.Last minute winner yesterday in the FA cup, 90+7 minutes, fans on the park. Wonder what will happen here:
1. It will be shown over and over and proclaimed 'the magic of the cup'.
2, The club safety officer will ban the lot of them.
I think I know which will happen.
It's not a lifetime ban.Absolute joke that is. Seriously? Running on to the side of the pitch with over exuberance after we score a 90 minute winner is worthy of your season ticket ripped up and a lifetime ban.
Should we ban the 20,000 Hibs fans on the pitch at Hampden then?
I don’t agree with running on the pitch but the stand was severely overcrowded as well.
We’ve had fans going on for years. I have a feeling there’s more to this but either way going on the pitch needed to stop.
I tend to agree on your point. On the first UEFA section closure, the club were quick to close BF1 when that is where the offensive singing was identified as coming from. Without knowing whether individuals sang or not, they lost their seats without any relocation for the next match.Who said one made the other right ?
What I said is the hypocrisy knows no bounds . The club are happy to publicly hammer a 15 year old boy for going on the park and “ show they mean business” , but when it comes to fans extremely well known to the club behaving in a way that UEFA deem worthy of partial closure of Ibrox , suddenly we are all collectively to blame , no bannings, no letters , no tickets removed or removal from travel club . We can all see the double standards here , I know you can as well you just won’t admit it .
A case of the club as usual taking the route of least resistance , opportunism to hammer an easy target , look how strict we are . In much the same way they like to blame the union bears for everything and anything that happens at one of our games, and turn a blind eye to all the rest .
Taking a leek in public is theft from a greengrocer.There are degrees, and let the punishment fit the crime. He was a Bear who was overjoyed at a vital last second winner, that's it.
Should everyone with a criminal conviction be barred for life from Ibrox, why make it only football related, what about speeding fines?
And is it only those caught and convicted, perhaps moral agents like yourself can enforce self-banning, so anyone who's streamed a game or watched a pirate video or been in a street fight or taken a leek in public can just impose a life ban on themselves?
The club never took tickets for an away game which effectively closed the away section for a game.I tend to agree on your point. On the first UEFA section closure, the club were quick to close BF1 when that is where the offensive singing was identified as coming from. Without knowing whether individuals sang or not, they lost their seats without any relocation for the next match.
When the away support in Warsaw (I think) were identified as singing offensive songs for the 2nd UEFA section closure, there was no action against fans whom the club knew were in attendance. Just random sections of the grounds closed for the next match.
I appreciate the club needs to take action where damage is being done to our reputation, whether it be by offensive singing, running onto the pitch, setting off flares, etc. Sometimes it doesn't seem very even handed.
Nobody wrecked the disabled shelter, it collapsed due to being unfit for purpose,i find it very harsh indeed this but is he banned for entering the pitch or was it maybe the fan who wrecked the disabled shelter? if this is just for entering the pitch i feel sorry for him but if its the causing of the damage done tonthe disabled section then i think rangers have obvs gave him the severe punishment
I was at Easter Road Other two you’re showing your ageWere you at Pittodrie in the 80s?
Were you in Barcelona in 72?
Helicopter sunday?
Just three examples of fans being on the park going back decades. All these events are revered as being some of the best times being a fan and the celebrations.
But as usual a 15 year old does it now and people agree with a banning order.
We didn’t get a second closure, Rangers refused tickets which was pointless as YB opened a section up for us anywayI tend to agree on your point. On the first UEFA section closure, the club were quick to close BF1 when that is where the offensive singing was identified as coming from. Without knowing whether individuals sang or not, they lost their seats without any relocation for the next match.
When the away support in Warsaw (I think) were identified as singing offensive songs for the 2nd UEFA section closure, there was no action against fans whom the club knew were in attendance. Just random sections of the grounds closed for the next match.
I appreciate the club needs to take action where damage is being done to our reputation, whether it be by offensive singing, running onto the pitch, setting off flares, etc. Sometimes it doesn't seem very even handed.
Slight difference between those matches and the first game v Killie and most other matches it’s been happening in recently. As I said earlier in the thread I can only see criminal trespass as a charge for only going on the pitch but I don’t think that is a law in Scotland so there’s maybe more to this.Were you at Pittodrie in the 80s?
Were you in Barcelona in 72?
Helicopter sunday?
Just three examples of fans being on the park going back decades. All these events are revered as being some of the best times being a fan and the celebrations.
But as usual a 15 year old does it now and people agree with a banning order.
I was at Easter Road Other two you’re showing your age
Slight difference between those matches and the first game v Killie and most other matches it’s been happening in recently. As I said earlier in the thread I can only see criminal trespass as a charge for only going on the pitch but I don’t think that is a law in Scotland so there’s maybe more to this.
I would’ve just turned 14that season.Haha, I was too young to be at Easter Road!
It's so frustrating being a fan of certain age. You look at what's gone on before with fans and how older generations talk with nostalgia of Birmingham, Manchester etc. Yet young fans now get slaughtered for everything.
We don't know how long the ban is for, although it will almost certainly last until the outcome of the Court Case is known..Surely if he has to be given a ban it should only be for a month or for 2 or 3 home games.
The club have been overzealous on this occasion.
Surely you can see a difference between those matches.How is it a difference?
You are only saying there is a difference to justify older Bears doing it 'back in the day'.
He wasn't banned for celebrating a goal..I would’ve just turned 14that season.
Yeah I completely agree, people look back with fondness on those trips yet are actively saying a young guy should be banned for celebrating a goal. Doesn’t begin to make sense haha
He wasn't though was he ?Banned for celebrating a goal ffs? I'll bet this boy has more passion in his little toe than this julh.
Purpose being for people to dance on it's roof..?Nobody wrecked the disabled shelter, it collapsed due to being unfit for purpose,
Well that was exactly what he was doing? He hardly just ran on the park and park is even a stretch it was behind goals for about a minute then back in stands.He wasn't banned for celebrating a goal..
Right sorry they should all be banned for life, maybe even stonedPurpose being for people to dance on it's roof..?
Surely you can see a difference between those matches.
Haha, I was too young to be at Easter Road!
It's so frustrating being a fan of certain age. You look at what's gone on before with fans and how older generations talk with nostalgia of Birmingham, Manchester etc. Yet young fans now get slaughtered for everything.
So it's Police Scotland's fault now?We'll agree to disagree but what I will say is, the time and money spent on this game and the aftermath by Police Scotland is a fu.ckin disgrace.
Some communities are being destroyed by wee neds and you can't get a Police officer for love nor money.
We're getting our priorities all wrong imo.
Can’t go around calling other posters “wanks” because they don’t buy into the poor me mentality of those caught breaking the law.Oh dear yet another one goes crying to the teacher.
See, you DO know what he was banned for.Well that was exactly what he was doing? He hardly just ran on the park and park is even a stretch it was behind goals for about a minute then back in stands.
They probably have pictures of him on the park which is all the club need , overly harsh punishment though .What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
You have a flair for the dramatic don't you..?Right sorry they should all be banned for life, maybe even stoned
A few on here seem to, frighteningThere is no difference . He’s saying it’s different to try and justify his defence of the club banning a 15 year old supporter , ripping up his season ticket with no refund and possibly influencing the outcome of his pending charge .
No right thinking bear sees this as appropriate action . It’s a disgrace .
Sarcasm mate...You have a flair for the dramatic don't you..?
I don't know about anyone else, but this kid hasn't been banned for Life. Right now we don't know how long he'll be banned for..
Of course there’s a difference in the matches and the times. Anybody who says there’s no difference between an opening day goal v Killie and Barca 72 is clearly talking nonsense.There is no difference . He’s saying it’s different to try and justify his defence of the club banning a 15 year old supporter , ripping up his season ticket with no refund and possibly influencing the outcome of his pending charge .
No right thinking bear sees this as appropriate action . It’s a disgrace .
It's not a disgrace. It's an appropriate - some might say an obligatory - reaction given the circumstances.There is no difference . He’s saying it’s different to try and justify his defence of the club banning a 15 year old supporter , ripping up his season ticket with no refund and possibly influencing the outcome of his pending charge .
No right thinking bear sees this as appropriate action . It’s a disgrace .
Good Luck today m8.........Sarcasm mate...
anyway I’ve got a bus to get ready for
Of course there’s a difference in the matches and the times. Anybody who says there’s no difference between an opening day goal v Killie and Barca 72 is clearly talking nonsense.
“wobay tide”somebody has a different opinion to you.
You know I haven’t banned anybody eh? I’m just not blaming everybody else for it.So you want to apply YOUR standards on when it’s appropriate or applicable to invade the pitch . No bother .
I thought the first section closure was v Legia (relating to the St Joseph's charge), and the second was v Feyenoord (relating to Legia away charge).We didn’t get a second closure, Rangers refused tickets which was pointless as YB opened a section up for us anyway