FortressVillage
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Sir David Weir, not even close in my opinion
Cuellar for me , he was immenseA shameless copy of the best striker since McCoist thread.
Richard Gough was a colossus of a centre half and captain.
Who has been our best centre half since he left?
He probably didn’t name as many mistakes as others, but they were usually costly mistakes.Would have voted Amo but man did he make some mistakes.
Weir for me.
And me. Cuellar was a no nonsense CH that cleared his lines every time. Can't recall him making a mistake or any forward getting the better of him. Superb defender.Cuellar for me
Big Amo all day long.
Some big ones too.
Definitely cost us the SC Final against Hearts at the piggery, but overall, he was a great central defender.
Torn between Amo, Moore, Cuellar and Goldson.
Couldn't agree more re. Amo. Surprised he has had so many shouts.
Weir is the correct answer, even though he's nowhere near as talented as the likes of Bougherra, Boumsong, Goldson etc.
The club had become a soft touch, but then Walter came back and changed the complexion entirely. Weir's style is symbolic of that era: unglamorous, low-key, but gets results and, ultimately, wins things. He was a proper leader.
Three SPL title wins, three League Cups and two Scottish Cups. Then a UEFA Cup final and two Champions League campaigns. That's an unbelievable achievement in such a short time.
Being honest, you could probably argue he's on a par with Gough.
AmoA shameless copy of the best striker since McCoist thread.
Richard Gough was a colossus of a centre half and captain.
Who has been our best centre half since he left?
I agree with a lot of what you’ve said and I do think there is an argument to be made that Weir was the best since Gough.
The only reason I’d say no is because I think the team were set up to ensure his lack of pace wasn’t as issue. He always had a very good defender in Papac to his left side and more often than not had two solid defensive midfields in front of him (I appreciate Mendes and Ferguson were more than just defensive players but they were more deep lying playmakers at that stage of their career).
Wouldn't disagree with that. Especially in Europe, players with pace (Fabiano, Cacau) showed him up.
But at the same time, he exemplified the sheer winning spirit of that side. Over 50 appearances in season 2009/2010, and had to put up with some really average CB partners (McCulloch, for example, and he covered Danny Wilson a lot).
That team was built to mask his deficiencies, but he was worth it - at least domestically.
I'd argue he held us back in Europe apart from the Uefa cup final season.
I loved Weir but I also think his inclusion in the team affected other parts of the team because we had to try and protect him.
I think our performances in Europe over the past three seasons have shown us what we can do. The current team is the best I've Rangers team I've ever seen in Europe.
I loved Weir and I loved that Walter Smith team. Although it sounds like criticism it's not meant that way. That team gave me some of the best years of my Rangers supporting life. Weir was crucial to that.
Nah, I know exactly what you mean.
It's a hard one to articulate, but with no signings in that final season, I just think he had a spirit that was priceless. The bollocking to Lafferty at halftime springs to mind. He just "got it" and knew how to get us over the line that year. Pure grit ratherr than ability.
I thiink a lot of people remember him less fondly because of what has transpired with Warbs as well.
Looking back though, it was absolutely ridiculous we were going into games with Davie Weir up against a peak Luis Fabiano. No wonder we got pumped lol.
Think Goldson's getting a bit hard done by here. Maybe he'll be remembered more fondly after he's left.
There is no doubt he was a great captain. We're talking about subtleties in his performances and how if affected our team at the time but his leadership and captaincy can never be called into question. A modern great in that respect.
Yeah it's crazy when you think back on it. 5-4-1 in the champions league with guys like Foster and Broadfoot at wing back and guys like Whittaker playing wide midfield. At the time we thought that was the only way we could get results in Europe but thankfully this current team under Gerrard have shown us a different way.
Guys like Foster and Broadfoot would be nowhere near a Gerrard team imo. The former just isnt good enough, the latter too much of a bellend (even when he was at his "peak".)
I always thought the Walter way was how we could win in Europe, but as you say, its crazy to see us holding our own while playing good, progressive football.
Not sure its the best squad, but its definitely the most athletic. Players like Kamarra, Jack, Kent; even Davis and Morelos to an extent are absolute animals in terms of fitness. That's before you get to our defenders...
A great player and character but how many times did The Martian turn him....I voted Goodson based on a flawless season. He has grown into the role in what is a high pressure season. Had a soft spot for Carlos and Weir was immense.This is a good question.
I don’t think it’s fair to include Goldson purely because he’s still playing and folk will vote for the players the resonate with.
This is very, very hard.
I voted Amo, but he could make blunders, as could the other defenders on this list to be fair.
Disagree. Gough was the more complete player for me. But %^*& me both were immense!No matter how people feel about him Terry Butcher is our finest central defender in the last 40 years, Gough was great but Butcher was better
Cuellar nowadays, in our team, is a 30m CB
How the hell is Cuellar winning this and not Amoruso!?!
Couldn't agree more re. Amo. Surprised he has had so many shouts.
Weir is the correct answer, even though he's nowhere near as talented as the likes of Bougherra, Boumsong, Goldson etc.
The club had become a soft touch, but then Walter came back and changed the complexion entirely. Weir's style is symbolic of that era: unglamorous, low-key, but gets results and, ultimately, wins things. He was a proper leader.
Three SPL title wins, three League Cups and two Scottish Cups. Then a UEFA Cup final and two Champions League campaigns. That's an unbelievable achievement in such a short time.
Being honest, you could probably argue he's on a par with Gough.
Amoruso has so many votes because he was fucking magnificent. That's why.
He was but he also made some catastrophic errors.
I'm not sure I remember Cuellar even misplacing a pass let alone make some of the errors Amo did.
Whats your point?
Amoruso was a better player than Cuellar, mistakes and all.
Voted for Cuellar cos could only pick 1 but Weir equal as you say both solidBetween Cuellar and Weir for me, they were solid. Voted Weir in the end
Watching both play together Gough for me. In the 1987 2-2 draw when Gough scored in last minute Butcher was sent off and Roberts in goal - no way were we bringing that back without Gough playing centre back and in up in attackNo matter how people feel about him Terry Butcher is our finest central defender in the last 40 years, Gough was great but Butcher was better