westenclosurebear
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And anyone who thinks Andy Halliday is even close to being the type of left back we need should stop drinking about now.
And anyone who thinks Andy Halliday is even close to being the type of left back we need should stop drinking about now.
Plenty of Bears not impressed with BB. And hardly a contrarian when stated his first half cross was sensational.
You couldn't debate your way out of a paper bag.
Free kick in the first half was a bit far out but I think a super confident Borna has a shot at goal rather than a cross. He's got the left foot for it. He's our best left back but is he good enough? Jury is still out for me. He's got class in my opinion but he's got to show it more.
Some folk are never pleased.
He made two great tackles today and his crossing is unbelievable at times.
It’s pretty ridiculous that if you have an opinion on a player and question his performance and hope to get more from him because you know he’s better, some people process that in their head as you thinking he’s shite and that you aren’t a fan of him.
Regardless of his performance today, he’s still not shown anything close to the kind of performance he put in against us in the two legs for Osijek. Maybe Motherwell away (3-3) and his first home league game as well when he had an assist for Goldson (can’t remember who it was against)
I’m sure it will come in time when he gets a run of games and he’ll become the player we all know he can be but he was nowhere as good as is being made out on here today from some.
You would expect a Croatian internationalist not to be as sloppy as he was today. He wasn't terrible but he's a lot more erratic than you would hope for.
Still the V12 engine stuff and Croatian international defence is not echoed by the manager who is clearly frustrated by him.
Sorry mate disagree. He has been injured and for an admin to start a negative post like that is utter pish. IMHO.Might come across as harsh as his career with us to date has been very stop/start due to injuries but he’s looking very average just now. For me he looks terrified of playing for us, takes the safe option every time.
Granted he overlapped a few times today and the formation in the first half probably limited him from getting up and down the wing as much and to be fair, he was available for a pass most of the game but I’d like to see a lot more from him.
The player we seen for Osijek isn’t the one we are getting.
In theory yes I wouldn't disagree but that's the point I'm making in terms of effectiveness BB is not delivering anything extra.
If the manager picks him on Wednesday he will need a lot more if he picks Halliday he knows he will get 100% of his ability. That's a dilemma for a manager when it's going to be a battle and a must win game.
Sorry mate disagree. He has been injured and for an admin to start a negative post like that is utter pish. IMHO.
Well firstly, I didn’t say anyone opened the thread and looked to disagree with the OP, I said they tend to look for the “general consensus”, so your failure to grasp English has let you down there.
Secondly, the general consensus is that he’s a good player with a lot more to offer. Of course that’s the consensus, that’s why you’ve been after him for ages. But I’m glad that you instantly picked up that you were one of the few I was referring to. What was it that ticked you off, the fact that you’re famous for it on here?
Debating with the resident pseudo-intellectual doesn’t take much, a debate with a genuine intellectual might though.
You have made a number of posts on this subject so can you say if you actually 'follow' the manager's comments or do you just post on the basis of your perhaps illconsidered thoughts ? Can you say what you base your observations on - is it a recent press conference or perhaps a personal message from SG - can you post that on here for the enlightenment of all FFrs.
Be realistic and if the crosses don't create a goal every few matches he will look like MOH to an extentIf all he is going to do is cross it with his left foot teams will know what to do against him
Nothing ticks me off about your posts you are one of the biggest cranks on here.....I find your posts funny usually full of hypocrisy and usually trying to wind up people for having a different opinion and of course we could go over your absolute spite for some players we've had. The general consensus usually changes every five minutes-I've made that point and you were sharpening your pitchfork a few weeks back.
But as I said you should buy a mirror.
Have you EVER stopped to ask yourself why you're notorious for that type of pish on here?
I wouldn’t be telling anyone to buy a mirror if I had your staggering lack of self awareness pal.
It's well documented a few weeks back.......
Perhaps you are able to give us some more up to date info but we are talking about a Rangers player who has struggled with injury in the past but who has now begun to show what he is capable of. Can you please enlighten me of something more recent, than a few weeks back, which might dissuade me from my own opinion that, ongoing, he is an excellent acquisition for Rangers FC.
Given your 'documentation' do you think that Steven Gerrad should have actually started him today ?
You previously said
"You would expect a Croatian internationalist not to be as sloppy as he was today. He wasn't terrible but he's a lot more erratic than you would hope for.
Still the V12 engine stuff and Croatian international defence is not echoed by the manager who is clearly frustrated by him. "
When was this stated by Steven Gerrard - can you quote a press conference or other to help us less informed beings to understand your point of view !
Please let me know where and when this information became available mainstream ?
SG had a dig at him in a press conference well documented on here.....maybe you missed it.
Must have done - can you advise the date of the PC ?
Let's be honest on current form he's no better than Halliday-hit one cracking cross today and one decent one. Had one great tackle. Against St. Boo considering the hype on here about him we have to be disappointed
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His dead ball delivery is exceptional and I thought he did well given he’s been in the spotlight around his reaction in the Helsinki game. I don’t really agree with a single word you wroteMight come across as harsh as his career with us to date has been very stop/start due to injuries but he’s looking very average just now. For me he looks terrified of playing for us, takes the safe option every time.
Granted he overlapped a few times today and the formation in the first half probably limited him from getting up and down the wing as much and to be fair, he was available for a pass most of the game but I’d like to see a lot more from him.
The player we seen for Osijek isn’t the one we are getting.
I thought he had a very good game, weird how folk see things differently. Second half especially, him and Kent linked up very well.
What utter tosh.
Might come across as harsh as his career with us to date has been very stop/start due to injuries but he’s looking very average just now. For me he looks terrified of playing for us, takes the safe option every time.
Granted he overlapped a few times today and the formation in the first half probably limited him from getting up and down the wing as much and to be fair, he was available for a pass most of the game but I’d like to see a lot more from him.
The player we seen for Osijek isn’t the one we are getting.
I'd very much like to see him be much more aggressive when running forward with the ball, driving on in possession and demanding the ball from teammates far more without the ball.
He looks in parts like he is playing within himself. In general today I thought he was decent though, more good than bad. Early doors.
Of course I'm aware of my so-called reputation. What are you backing-a mass of opinion that wants to build a Stevie G statue one month and consider sacking him the next? Oh wait I've seen you do that this season.(metaphorically speaking)
I'm self aware in that I don't always either get it right or my opinion isn't always popular but there have been very very few times when it has been totally unique.
I have never voiced an opinion that I didn't believe and that's all that matters-a mate's wife once met me outside Ibrox and asked me did I really believe all that stuff I was posting about Craig Whyte....such is life.
I get it wrong whether it's Green or something else but for being an odd ball in a forum where opinions are neatly folded away when they fail miserably or are changing on a daily basis I hardly lose any sleep...
He had a goal saving tackle and a superb cross for Defoe.....you've been a bit harsh but my view is he doesn't look anything special at the moment in overall terms.
In theory yes I wouldn't disagree but that's the point I'm making in terms of effectiveness BB is not delivering anything extra.
If the manager picks him on Wednesday he will need a lot more if he picks Halliday he knows he will get 100% of his ability. That's a dilemma for a manager when it's going to be a battle and a must win game.
If I knew what your view was, ie. you thought he played well or otherwise, I would be happy to respond but I certainly do agree you do wonder what game some are watching !
I’ve never once suggested that there should be consideration for sacking Gerrard, so if being a wee liar is what you’re resorting to, save your energy and your words.