Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

wontoofree

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Received an email from LSE today, but, as it says in the small print, I'm not allowed to share it, so I enclose a 'random thought'.....................

In the UK, you are able to report this matter to the Police via the Action Fraud website available here: https://www.actionfraud.police.uk/.

It will now be tomorrow before I have a go at it, so is it of any use to anyone else in the meantime ?
 
For us bears who now live down south they are a disgrace. They dress in their tartan and make daily racist remarks against the English. Some English are let’s say small minded and class us all the same as this rabble.

Since this lot got into power I’ve found myself frequently having to educate people down here that we’re not all like this. They are a complete embarrassment. Every bear has to come out in Scotland and vote tactically to get this lot out.

They have let the IRA back onto our streets and openly share the same views as Sinn Fein. They have let down people in our society for the sake of votes.

We must come out and vote. This next election will be one of the most important elections in years imo. The fear I have if they stay in power is that fire will have to be fought with fire. This is a path that the SNP will take us down if they gain power again. I’m convinced of that.
Fully agree with bluenose94 that the next local Scottish and or general elections will be the most important in our lifetimes. The apathy shown by a number of people in Scotland ( and I include myself ) has led to the nationalist/catholic vote working to their
This thread is getting somewhat derailed by deviating into talk of Hitchens, nazis, etc.
Hopefully it's accidental .
Hi , eh47 thanks for your feedback and I totally agree this has to be kept on thread regarding the club like no other , CSA and Compensation for victims. I did not however accidentally introduce Hitchens as you suggested. He was sent death threats right up to the day before he died of cancer. My raison d’etre is to acknowledge the tremendous efforts put in by everyone on this forum to put these monsters firmly in there place . Hitchens exposed the cabal of the Vatican through diligent graft , years of investigated research , dogged determination and courage . I was merely trying to show that using this man’s techniques may not be a bad idea in the pursuit of truth. The similarities between the cabal of the Vatican and the cabal within the club like no other are unsettling , uncanny and horrifying. The Mantra has always been DEFLECT and DENY. I Too was subjected to sexual abuse aged 13 . It has taken me many years to even be able to discuss it openly with anyone. I have never fully recovered from the scars but I have had some wonderful counselling and have been able to move on in my life.

I genuinely hope the victims of these abhorrent crimes get the closure I craved for and finally received.
 

EH47

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Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
 
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KYBear_74

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Fully agree with bluenose94 that the next local Scottish and or general elections will be the most important in our lifetimes. The apathy shown by a number of people in Scotland ( and I include myself ) has led to the nationalist/catholic vote working to their

Hi , eh47 thanks for your feedback and I totally agree this has to be kept on thread regarding the club like no other , CSA and Compensation for victims. I did not however accidentally introduce Hitchens as you suggested. He was sent death threats right up to the day before he died of cancer. My raison d’etre is to acknowledge the tremendous efforts put in by everyone on this forum to put these monsters firmly in there place . Hitchens exposed the cabal of the Vatican through diligent graft , years of investigated research , dogged determination and courage . I was merely trying to show that using this man’s techniques may not be a bad idea in the pursuit of truth. The similarities between the cabal of the Vatican and the cabal within the club like no other are unsettling , uncanny and horrifying. The Mantra has always been DEFLECT and DENY. I Too was subjected to sexual abuse aged 13 . It has taken me many years to even be able to discuss it openly with anyone. I have never fully recovered from the scars but I have had some wonderful counselling and have been able to move on in my life.

I genuinely hope the victims of these abhorrent crimes get the closure I craved for and finally received.
MUT, I commend you for the work you have obviously done and empathize with your experiences as a wee bairn. While not sexually abused, as far as I can recall, I had pretty severe mental and physical abuse all the way up until I was bigger than him. This thread and some current family dynamics has brought this all back up again for me. I say this not for any pity or anything other to convey information I am finding.

From what I have learned, people that have been abused basically suffer from PTSD. I have found this great podcast that discusses it: "Life after PTSD". They describe it as an injury and not a disease. Which opens up the prospect of healing; a very much desired result!

They talk about RTM treatment. Here is a link to some information you and others may find valuable:
American Thinker Article
 

Tagsbear

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Both absolutely correct. Yet another example of the club's lack of leadership.
Give the club the CEO it needs, Mr. King. We need professional management.
Not sure I agree with the comments regarding this case(not the part about getting a CEO), no company would commit to compensation for something that they knew nothing about, there was no complaint made at the time, the alleged accused is dead and never faced any convictions or charges whilst alive.


They’d be opening themselves up to all sorts of liabilities and potentially bogus claims.

Its way different from what happened/is happening at Celtics boys club due to convictions and re-employment of a guy they sacked for abuse.
 

Fairs fair

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Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
I remember that too.
Collate all the info and go back and get editors to delete it.
 

Tommy

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Email sent to regan woodrow of govt

Dear Mr Woodrow,

I am writing to yourself in response to your email which i received today,which i assume,is in response to my email to my MP GAVIN NEWLANDS,as it arrived not long after.
However mr woodrow,i must firstly point out,that my christian name has two "m" s in tommy and not one,as you have written,the standard of replies from the SNP government ministers to date,leave a lot to be desired and a sense of apathy and loss of confidence in their abilities to perform duties in public office.

Secondly,i wish to make an official complaint to your department against my MP GAVIN NEWLANDS,who despite being emailed several times in recent months by myself,requesting that he raises my demand for a full and wholly independent public inquiry into the GLASGOW CELTIC FC SEX ABUSE SCANDAL,which has taken place over the past 40 years,mr newlands has repeatedly refused to honour my request and has repeatedly tried to deflect my request for action,by hiding behind the "interim report" into child abuse across football by the SFA,which is not fit for purpose,as it cannot be published in full,due to ongoing prosecutions,prosecutions,that none of your government ministers or public seem to know anything about,which makes us think it's another ploy by darker forces to prevent this inquiry from happening.
Anyway,as i have said,i am now raising this formal and official complaint against my MP for his failure to act upon constituants requests,whilst in public office and ask for him to be subject to your parliamentary disciplinary procedures,with the results being sent to me in due course.
I should also point out,that part of my complaint is around mr newlands lying and false advertising (which will be reporting to the appropriate department for further action),where he clearly states in his political promotional leaflets,that "HE IS MY VOICE IN WESTMINSTER AND HE WILL ENSURE I AM HEARD",never a bigger fat lie has been told before,as the silence from mr newlands has been deafening,along with the silence from the first minister NICOLA STURGEON and justice secretary HUMZA YOUSAF,who have failed to acknowledge victims of this sex abuse ,or even enter into dialogue with them,which makes them as culpable as the predators themselves.

I have made my complaint and i still DEMAND that the government carry out a full,independent inquiry into GLASGOW CELTIC FCs historic sexual crimes and i await your reply.


Regards
 

Tommy

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Reply from AIM in relation to LSE breach.

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Commentator

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Not sure I agree with the comments regarding this case(not the part about getting a CEO), no company would commit to compensation for something that they knew nothing about, there was no complaint made at the time, the alleged accused is dead and never faced any convictions or charges whilst alive.


They’d be opening themselves up to all sorts of liabilities and potentially bogus claims.

Its way different from what happened/is happening at Celtics boys club due to convictions and re-employment of a guy they sacked for abuse.
I agree it would be difficult, Tags, but we are being purposefully grouped with the pederast protectors and our passive stance is condoning it. We continually refuse to accept the realities.
Haining said 'we should find a way to compensate' and Grampian 'take responsibility for what happened'. A professional CEO would engage someone experienced in this area and should be able to thread the needle to allow us to right whatever wrongs there are whilst denying the chancers.
I cannot comprehend King's inaction on this, irrespective of whatever Traynor or McLelland or whoever may be telling him. We finally have a top-class professional operator as football manager but the club remains rudderless in the reputation risk area. We need a Gerrard in there, too.
 

Tommy

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And a quick reply to AIM.

To whom it may concern,

Firstly,many thanks for your prompt reply,however whilst i appreciate that you cannot divulge any private data in relation to my concerns,can you answer the following questions please as a shareholder.

As a result of their "secret internal investigation" into their historic sex abuse crimes(results of which have not been revealed to public).

1.HAVE GLASGOW CELTIC FC BREACHED THE FINANCIAL REGULATIONS THAT BOND THE LONDON STOCK EXCHANGE?.

2 WHAT IMPACT WILL THIS HAVE ON MY CURRENT AND FUTURE INVESTMENTS GO,AS FAR AS SHARE PRICES ?.

i hope you can answer these questions for me and allay any fears i may have.


Regards
 

SGbanwa

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MUT, I commend you for the work you have obviously done and empathize with your experiences as a wee bairn. While not sexually abused, as far as I can recall, I had pretty severe mental and physical abuse all the way up until I was bigger than him. This thread and some current family dynamics has brought this all back up again for me. I say this not for any pity or anything other to convey information I am finding.

From what I have learned, people that have been abused basically suffer from PTSD. I have found this great podcast that discusses it: "Life after PTSD". They describe it as an injury and not a disease. Which opens up the prospect of healing; a very much desired result!

They talk about RTM treatment. Here is a link to some information you and others may find valuable:
American Thinker Article
It’s not a disease or disorder mate and suffer due to my military experiences.
My therapist always tells me it’s pts and the D should be dropped.

Sorry for slight disrail can just understand how this poster will be struggling even letting the thoughts back out the door.
 

BlueNose94

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sent to gavin newlands today

Dear Gavin,

Or should it be the laird of coopats,rather than coocaddens, after your embarrassing nationalist efforts in Westminster,when you took upon yourself,the role of choirmaster for your bunch of charlatans in your wee thingumyjig party?.

However,nice to see you have finally made it to Westminster and as such,I need to ask the question,which I have asked you many times over the past months....DID YOU RAISE MY REQUEST FOR A FULL AND INDEPEMNDENT PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO THE HISTORIC SEX ABUSE CRIMES AT GLASGOW CELTIC FC?.....and if not,why not ? ,as you are my elected Westminster MP and you proclaim in your recent political flyer, that you are my “VOICE IN WESTMINSTER” and I have repeatedly asked you do so on my behalf....or do your skills only stretch to trying to make a complete fool of yourself and your country when in Westminster, sorry, edit that, you didn’t try...you did make a fool of yourself and your country.

So,assuming that you failed yet again, to raise my request for a full and independent inquiry into the sex abuse scandal at your club ,Glasgow celtic fc ,can you now provide me with the email address of the person in government, who deals with complaints from the public regarding their MP’s and their lack of competence and ignorance of requests for action and failure to do the job they are elected and paid to do?.

I also note, that your party now have connections to a consultant NEIL WATT of hacking & Patterson ,who openly moves assets belonging to a known convicted paedophile FRANK CAIRNEY to himself and then proclaims that he is willing to then let this sexual deviant live there rent free , if and when he gets out of jail....this guy , is a man who your party turn to for advice?,speaks volumes about your party and it’s cover ups and ignorance in dealing with this historic sexual abuse scandal ,hopefully more of the SNP’s little secrets will be revealed in time,when all the skeletons in your cupboards come tumbling out ,once a public inquiry is made into your party and it’s connections to paedophilia and Glasgow celtic fc,of which I and others are certain of,just a matter of time .

I look forward to your reply
Outstanding T.
 

Timardim

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Reply to LSE following their useless reply which i posted yesterday

Hi thank you for the reply,

You haven't really answered my query, which was, have Celtic f.c. broken L.S.E. rules by failing to disclose a 2 year internal secret inquiry regarding the systematic sexual abuse of boys which in turn would affect share price and potential for new/existing investors?

i would be most grateful for your answer to the above question.

Yours sincerely
R.K.


Another useless reply today


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KYBear_74

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It’s not a disease or disorder mate and suffer due to my military experiences.
My therapist always tells me it’s pts and the D should be dropped.

Sorry for slight disrail can just understand how this poster will be struggling even letting the thoughts back out the door.
Which is exactly what I said in the second paragraph:
"They describe it as an injury and not a disease."

I agree, the D should be dropped.

Thank you for your service SG, I can't even imagine what you've been through.
 
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Wilkinsvolley

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Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
Chubby brown or earl something or other?
 

Timardim

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Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
I think he got a job at Holicomm
He was a nonce.

He worked for Dundee Utd,then Hibs were he was caught abusing and Hibs covered it up and basically passed him onto us.He was with us a couple of years before we were made aware what he was and we promptly sacked him and informed the police.Unfortunatly it looks like he abused a couple of boys whilst with us hence why there’s a couple of claims in.Their possibly might be another due to a scout called Harry Dunn.Again,the club had no knowledge of what he was or what he was doing and none of their victims to my knowledge are accusing Rangers of any wrongdoing or cover up.Due to legalities of the club now being owned by NewCo,I think we’ve directed one of the victims towards the liquidators of OldCo which I find quite poor imo.I get that legalities come in but we should find a way to compensate.We’ve got nothing to hide and haven’t been accused of anything so it would be could to see us lead by example unlike that peado harbouring abortion of a club across the city.
Chubby brown or earl something or other?
Did he not become the justice Secretary...?
 

theateam

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Email sent to U.E.F.A.

To:patrick.gasser@uefa.ch


‎11‎ ‎Sep at ‎14‎:‎23


Dear Patrick,

I can't for the life of me understand why your organisation won't take action against one of your member clubs who regularly compete in your competitions.
There has been an industrial sized paedophile ring operating from within Celtic F.C. for over 4 decades and it has been facilitated and covered up by Celtic F.C.

You have advised colleagues of mine that you have passed the "problem" onto the S.F.A. to deal with. The S.F.A. are incompetent and corrupt to the core influenced by Celtic C.E.O. Peter Lawwell who holds authority over the S.F.A. and also now at your organisation U.E.F.A.

In any other walk of life this would be construed as a conflict of interest, given that Mr Lawwell was financial controller at Celtic F.C. and authorised the payment of £1million pounds to convicted paedophile Jim Torbett's company The Trophy Centre, allegedly as hush money, in order to protect the "good name of the club"?

Surely this club have breached U.E.F.A. rules regarding holding a license to operate? If not then it must be the case that U.E.F.A. are happy to condone child abuse and the operation of paedophile rings at their member club's.

Just recently Mr Lawwell announced that the club had carried out a secret 2 year "investigation", an investigation that never reported to Police Scotland, an investigation that never spoke with any of the victims of which it is believed to number over 100, an investigation that failed to notify the London Stock Exchange.

To this day Celtic F.C. continue to deny,deflect and cover up the abuse , which could still be happening as i type, surely U.E.F.A. has "A DUTY OF CARE" to protect children from these beasts, if not then it has to be assumed that there are paedophile enablers and protectors operating at your organisation.

Celtic F.C. recently admitted liability and paid a 6 figure compensation award to one of the abused who took legal action against them, it is alleged that they tried to get the victim to accept an N.D.A. to which he rightly refused, there are 20 court cases ready to start against this club in the near future,

How can you condone this situation and continue to allow this club to operate and take money from your organisation and from sponsors?, it is prolonging the agony and torment for the survivors of this abuse, abuse that has incidently led to 3 suicides and one possible murder by a Celtic F.C. employee in 1996 by Jim McCafferty.

If you have any conscience and morals Patrick, you will ensure that something is done regarding this International scandal the likes of which has never been seen before, Yes International Patrick as this club has facilitated abuse in the U.S.A. and several European countries.

The S.F.A. will not carry out an Independent or thorough investigation as they have known about this for decades and done Nothing. The political system in Scotland have also failed to protect and support the victims, How Many More Lives Must Be Lost Patrick before this club are dealt with and their paedophile ring broken up, there are still up to another 8 Celtic F.C. employees who were named by Mr Hugh Birt ,a Celtic Boys Club official who backed by Mr Gerry McSherry handed a list of 14 named abusers to the police, who incidently also appear complicit in covering this sordid affair.

Please Patrick, don't be on the end game list of names who KNEW and done Nothing, there are countless tortured victims who need closure and recompense to try to rebuild their shattered lives, please Partick ,Do The Right Thing.

Regards
Boom!!!!!
Great piece.
 

Fairs fair

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I see Harry Dunn gets mentioned now and then. Dunn was a well known scout for many clubs, he has as much of a connection with Manchester United, Liverpool, Everton as he does with us.
It looks like they are throwing mud and hoping it sticks. Ive saw the reporting of him being linked to abuse at Ibrox- no quotes, no one named, not even a journalist giving his name. File it under bullsh1t!
If there actually was someone abused at Ibrox then go to the police.
 

Wilkinsvolley

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Aye it was "Earl" something. He went on to say that he couldn't continue for some personal stuff. Sounds like he was a blagger as he never re-appeared after the new launch of the forum.
I remember wondering after a couple of months and made a point of remembering the name but it must be 2-3years ago now.
 

indianabluenose

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This dark new drama has all the critics talking
2019-09-11 12:20


Stephen Graham in 'The Virtues.' (Photo supplied)




Cape Town – The Virtues, a new four-part drama series directed by Shane Meadows (This is England) starring Stephen Graham (Line of Duty) will premiere on Wednesday, 11 September at 20:00 on ITV Choice (DStv 123).
The acclaimed series centres on Joseph (Graham), a struggling recovering alcoholic whose life is turned upside down when his ex-partner moves away with their young son.
In this Q&A, Stephen talks about his character, what it was like working on the show, and how he dealt with the emotional toll the series took on him.

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Did you do any specific research for the role?

Yes, lots of research. Some heavy stuff actually – I looked into kids who had been abused, and how it affects them. I watched a powerful documentary about a young football team up in Scotland – the Celtic Boys Club (Celtic Boys Club founder Jim Torbett has been jailed for six years after being convicted of sexually abusing three boys over an eight-year period). I watched a lot of documentaries about people who had been victims in that situation, as well as looking into alcoholism and the reasons behind it. And I also looked into why and how people might repress things. The mind is an amazing thing, it can potentially block something out, put it in a box and never open it. But sometimes you get little flashes of what may have happened in your head. Shane said he read an article about a girl who was abused as a child. She had no recollection of it at all until she saw this little flower on a piece of print, and it cast her mind back. When these horrific acts had been taking place, there was a little tiny flower on the bed quilt, and she coped by focussing on this tiny flower. And then 25-30 years later, she saw a very similar print of a flower, and it all just came flooding back. That’s what we tried to tap into – the idea of what it would be like to have all this stuff coming back at you.
 

indianabluenose

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I looked into kids who had been abused, and how it affects them. I watched a powerful documentary about a young football team up in Scotland – the Celtic Boys Club (Celtic Boys Club founder Jim Torbett has been jailed for six years after being convicted of sexually abusing three boys over an eight-year period). I watched a lot of documentaries about people who had been victims in that situation, as well as looking into alcoholism and the reasons behind it.
What documentary is he referring too?
 

Gazza's one last run

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As others have said, lots of truly outstanding work being done here. Relentlessly fantastic are many posters and their emails. My war personality is on twitter. I'll rt Michelle Gray, AndrewGraysmum, Mark Horne from the Times, John@westenclosure, others and of course all the news headlines. Lot of filth scum on lately. They were very quiet for a while, but I think they think they have to do something. Hollicom written all over their replies, pushing the separate entity even though it's laughable. Some downright scumbag replies but not surprising.
Anyone who can, set up a twitter account and follow those pushing for justice. Can be an anonymous account and takes minutes. Each like and retweet is invaluable. Was 6 to a dozen to start with. Hundreds now.
 

yosser hughes

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I see Harry Dunn gets mentioned now and then. Dunn was a well known scout for many clubs, he has as much of a connection with Manchester United, Liverpool, Everton as he does with us.
It looks like they are throwing mud and hoping it sticks. Ive saw the reporting of him being linked to abuse at Ibrox- no quotes, no one named, not even a journalist giving his name. File it under bullsh1t!
If there actually was someone abused at Ibrox then go to the police.
they can throw as much mud around as they want,the truth of the matter is we as a support,we as a team, we as ordinary ,decent human beings will welcome any truly independent inquiry and we will fully accept its findings, now we turn to those throwing the mud around,can you do likewise, take your time now bhoys will you fully embrace an independent inquiry,, thought not
 
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