Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

coolatballet said:
Let us examine the SNP credentials in relation to the protection, nurturing and development of our young people:

The named person proposal is nothing short of a disgraceful intrusion into family life. The great majority of parents are wholly responsible, caring and law-abiding people. It is clear that the Government considered that parents could not be trusted to bring up their own children therefore State provided bureaucrats were essential to protect our children and to potentially interfere into matters that are rightly the responsibility of caring parents.

In 2014 the Scottish Government published statutory guidance on relationships, sexual health and parenthood education in state-maintained schools. This education package is required to be delivered to primary school children. It contains graphic details of homosexual activities, and also heterosexual practices which would best being left for consulting adults to discover for themselves. On a recent Tweet, Gordon Woods, a victim of abuse while at Celtic Boys Club was asking why his Primary 7 daughter was asking him why condoms have to be flavoured.

One of the most effective ways of securing healthy and successful present and future lives for our children is via academic attainment. The SNP Government has seen attainment levels slump in recent years and has yet to deliver its long-standing promise with regard to class sizes. As mentioned previously, however, it has been successful in filling the heads of our young children with detailed information of sexual practices that should really the domain of pornography sites. Remember, Nicola Sturgeon has stated on many occasions that she should be judged on her Government’s record on education.

The State provision of baby boxes for new mothers is nothing less than PR exercise, and has the look of having been thought up by young Tracy in Admin in a trendy Public Relations office’s monthly good idea competition. This initiative cannot be considered worthy of being a serious policy of a devolved executive with unrelenting ambitions of independence.

I make the above points to demonstrate the utter hypocrisy the SNP Government. This is the same SNP Government that has refused to engage with the survivors of sexual abuse within Scottish youth football. It is the same Government that cynically excluded religious organisations and sporting activities from its Independent Inquiry. With regard to the victims of paedophiles within youth football, it chose to wash its hands of the matter and found a willing “patsy” to take the heat, in the SFA. It did, however, ensure that the remit of the SFA inquiry would not upset its core voters by apportioning accountability, let alone delivering punishments.

As I have posted on this site previously, the Deputy First Minister, John Swinney, proposes that victims of abuse be offered tax payer provided compensation in exchange for abandoning their right to pursue the matter through the courts. He also appears to be enthusiastic about a fund being levied from Scottish football clubs to offer compensation to the victims of a few clubs, and one very notable club in particular. I would be extremely surprised if a similar waiver to the one proposed for the child care sector would not be a precondition of payment of compensation.

To kill the snake we should cut off its head. The SNP Government is the head of this particular snake.
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The content aimed at kids for sex education by the snp is very alarming to say the least, its totally depraved. Good post
 
Craigie said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1310232011618111488
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The interim report was very damning of the paedo club as I recall.
That said, and given the length of time the full report has taken, I fully expected a total whitewash and a sweeping generalisation type list of proposals and recommendations.

Let’s hope it shows up the one entity club for what they are and a full independent inquiry is instigated on the back of this.
 
Taffyblue said:
The interim report was very damning of the paedo club as I recall.
That said, and given the length of time the full report has taken, I fully expected a total whitewash and a sweeping generalisation type list of proposals and recommendations.

Let’s hope it shows up the one entity club for what they are and a full independent inquiry is instigated on the back of this.
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We agree. We believe it will be a complete whitewash and we’re prepared for this. It’s one of the main reasons we don’t show everything we have. All in good time.
 
Simply a Bear said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1310240449639182336

https://twitter.com/x/status/1310252541196763136
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Please be wary of these posts on Twitter. Some of what is being said is simply untrue and some is already known.
Some also may remember that the same poster said there was 100+ victims at Celtic. Also not true.
Today I’ve been in contact with victims and families that say the above is also not true. We’ve witnessed the same poster over the past 2 years stating other issues that also weren’t true.
Spotlight are in contact with the correct people, who have also been contacted today. They have told us the same. They know nothing of this. We simply don’t know where his information is coming from.
 
BN94 said:
Please be wary of these posts on Twitter. Some of what is being said is simply untrue and some is already known.
Some also may remember that the same poster said there was 100+ victims at Celtic. Also not true.
Today I’ve been in contact with victims and families that say the above is also not true. We’ve witnessed the same poster over the past 2 years stating other issues that also weren’t true.
Spotlight are in contact with the correct people, who have also been contacted today. They have told us the same. They know nothing of this. We simply don’t know where his information is coming from.
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I was under the impression that the individual who posts on that account knows a lot about this scandal. I will refrain from posting the information in future if the team thinks it is unreliable. I also do not want to muddy any waters with untruths on this thread.

My apologies.
 
Simply a Bear said:
I was under the impression that the individual who posts on that account knows a lot about this scandal. I will refrain from posting the information in future if the team thinks it is unreliable. I also do not want to muddy any waters with untruths on this thread.

My apologies.
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It not your fault mate. I’ll be honest. Some survivors have relied on his information in the past and it simply hasn’t happened. Now the guy might be telling the truth, but we’re in contact with the correct people who know nothing of his claims.
You’ll also notice another member of Spotlight has also just posted this on here. Spotlight will always inform this thread of what we know, but we will hold back anything that will affect upcoming cases.
It really does frustrate us. Nobody knows what we know.
 
BN94 said:
Hopefully one day the wee arrogant looking nationalist on the left of this photo will be questioned on this whole issue.
It’s plain to see that they will not enter into any dialogue with victims and survivors. Why?
https://imgur.com/a/CVMlSeM
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Can you clarify on the significance of this photo BN94? Is that the Financial Controller next to the (sinister looking) Firstrichtsminister?
 
Its reasuring to know (and important) that there are folks carrying out checks and balances regards the posts that are put out on social media. Its very easy to get wires crossed giving the amount of info out there, much of it is true or it can be related in some way but equally so some of it isnt true and could simply be urban myths. Its easily done and with good intentions weve prob all made the same error at some point, let the facts do the talking and justice will follow. Maybe even run it by the guys at spotlight first before posting if unsure.
 
Simply a Bear said:
Adidas will drop them quickly once they have benefited from them, and once the full scale of this scandal is shown to the world. Money over morals is the order of the day, until bad PR comes along.

There's a lot of people going about with no moral fibre.
In response to your last sentence, I would say that people with morals and principles , far outnumber those without. This thread shows a fraction of those with the former.
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Off topic but what kind of person votes for SF/IRA? Someone with no morals and almost certainly a sectarian education.
 
The SFA final report is due to go to print.

Have the victims been allowed access to the full report and have they been allowed to ask for changes/additions/deletions to be made?

I believe the people/clubs/organisations accused of wrong doing have been allowed this facility?

What I really would like to see is the full, unredacted report published, with all changes highlighted, who asked for the changes to be made, and why the SFA agreed to their requests.
 
ghoulishworm said:
When's that shower of shite going to own up and take their medicine BN,just watched Gordons video there and I feel sick to hear what him and other survivors went through all in the name of football.
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They have continued with the view “separate entity.” At the same time turning their backs on victims and families.
This has led to some of their vile support abusing victims and family members on social media as we’ve all witnessed. If the club won’t recognise it then neither will their support.
The world has to know what went on. The coverups, the “internal investigations” and found nothing....The links to the Catholic clergy, the links to priests in England, the abuse that took place on foreign trips, the abuse in Kearny, the people who knew, the people who enabled, the apologists...
The list goes on, and probably a long way to go. Our aim is to get it out far and wide for the sake of the multiple victims that suffered at that club.
That brings us to the SNP and their stance, but I’ll leave it there as it’s been well documented. Hopefully they will answer questions in the future on their silence.
We’re finding things that people thought were buried forever. We’ve got a long way to go.
 
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