Kylegib
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I'm not disputing this but is that factual or just a rumour that they did this.Sporting clubs AND religious institutions.
I'm not disputing this but is that factual or just a rumour that they did this.Sporting clubs AND religious institutions.
Its an absolute travesty that this has been left up to yourself and the Spolight team to expose. What a disgrace this country has turned into i dont recognise it anymore.We’re really not mate. We’re all just normal people that got together because something is far wrong here.
Yes, sometimes it takes its toll but not one of us will give up.
Something else I’d just like to say. Spotlight have obviously shown print from their own club newspaper. Now obviously this can be found by anyone that goes digging, but what we have is more. We hold documents that have never been seen. We know things that some think we don’t.
I also would like to say something to the posters that say nothing will come of this. You might be right but the progress we’ve made in the past 3 years is actually astounding. Shocking in fact. Please can I remind you that victims and their families sometimes view this thread and it’s not really nice for them to see negative posts.
Hopefully the day will come where we can hand our research to a full independent public inquiry. If not, then we will show it one way or another.
Another " open secret " Grigo back in the day which conveniently won't be remembered .
Any news on the re-arranged court cases?
Keep up the sterling work.We’re really not mate. We’re all just normal people that got together because something is far wrong here.
Yes, sometimes it takes its toll but not one of us will give up.
Something else I’d just like to say. Spotlight have obviously shown print from their own club newspaper. Now obviously this can be found by anyone that goes digging, but what we have is more. We hold documents that have never been seen. We know things that some think we don’t.
I also would like to say something to the posters that say nothing will come of this. You might be right but the progress we’ve made in the past 3 years is actually astounding. Shocking in fact. Please can I remind you that victims and their families sometimes view this thread and it’s not really nice for them to see negative posts.
Hopefully the day will come where we can hand our research to a full independent public inquiry. If not, then we will show it one way or another.
O’Merta would be more appropriate!I recall reading a piece by Davie Provo where he was commenting on a potential signing(may have been McGinn) and how the story was rattling around the back pages of every paper and he stated at the end in his own words...
"These things should be done in private... the celtic way"
This is not a new thing and has been going on for years at the piggery and Provo seems to be well versed in the practice.
The Celtic "omerta"
We’re really not mate. We’re all just normal people that got together because something is far wrong here.
Yes, sometimes it takes its toll but not one of us will give up.
Something else I’d just like to say. Spotlight have obviously shown print from their own club newspaper. Now obviously this can be found by anyone that goes digging, but what we have is more. We hold documents that have never been seen. We know things that some think we don’t.
I also would like to say something to the posters that say nothing will come of this. You might be right but the progress we’ve made in the past 3 years is actually astounding. Shocking in fact. Please can I remind you that victims and their families sometimes view this thread and it’s not really nice for them to see negative posts.
Hopefully the day will come where we can hand our research to a full independent public inquiry. If not, then we will show it one way or another.
Child abuse inquiry: Angela Constance defends remit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35535524I'm not disputing this but is that factual or just a rumour that they did this.
Leaving religious and sporting organisations out of a child abuse inquiry is ridiculous and clearly deliberate.Child abuse inquiry: Angela Constance defends remit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35535524
A Scottish government minister has defended its inquiry into child abuse after survivors' groups called for its remit to be extended.
Campaigners have claimed institutions such as the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts could be "let off the hook".
But Education Secretary Angela Constance said the scope of the inquiry was "very far reaching".
And she said religious organisations were covered when they had looked after children in a residential capacity.
But survivors' organisations, who are due to meet Ms Constance on Thursday, have called for its remit to be extended amid claims that institutions such as the Catholic Church would be excluded from its investigations.
Speaking ahead of the meeting, Ms Constance told the BBC's Good Morning Scotland programme that "religious organisations and orders are included in the inquiry where they have looked after children in a residential capacity".
She said the scope of the inquiry had already been widened, and that the definitions of "in care" and "abuse" were very broad.
She added: "What we have tried to do is to try to strike the right balance.
"We want to ensure that survivors don't actually lose hope and that the inquiry will report back within a reasonable timescale - we have set four years - and actually be able to make clear and meaningful recommendations."
*It does not cover children who were abused while living with their natural or adoptive families, while using sports and leisure clubs or attending faith based organisations on a day to day basis*.
The inquiry will also not examine allegations of children being abused in non-boarding schools, nursery or day-care centres.
Has there ever been a government inquiry into child rape, anywhere in the world, that actively exempts churches and sports clubs?Child abuse inquiry: Angela Constance defends remit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35535524
A Scottish government minister has defended its inquiry into child abuse after survivors' groups called for its remit to be extended.
Campaigners have claimed institutions such as the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts could be "let off the hook".
But Education Secretary Angela Constance said the scope of the inquiry was "very far reaching".
And she said religious organisations were covered when they had looked after children in a residential capacity.
But survivors' organisations, who are due to meet Ms Constance on Thursday, have called for its remit to be extended amid claims that institutions such as the Catholic Church would be excluded from its investigations.
Speaking ahead of the meeting, Ms Constance told the BBC's Good Morning Scotland programme that "religious organisations and orders are included in the inquiry where they have looked after children in a residential capacity".
She said the scope of the inquiry had already been widened, and that the definitions of "in care" and "abuse" were very broad.
She added: "What we have tried to do is to try to strike the right balance.
"We want to ensure that survivors don't actually lose hope and that the inquiry will report back within a reasonable timescale - we have set four years - and actually be able to make clear and meaningful recommendations."
*It does not cover children who were abused while living with their natural or adoptive families, while using sports and leisure clubs or attending faith based organisations on a day to day basis*.
The inquiry will also not examine allegations of children being abused in non-boarding schools, nursery or day-care centres.
I'm not disputing this but is that factual or just a rumour that they did this.
I have sent this in messenger to a journo I know who works for the Scottish Daily Mail, will keep spotlight updated.
Spotlight are willing to speak to any journalist that wishes to know the truth. Can I also remind you not to put any journalist replies into the thread as this opens them up to abuse from apologists.I have sent this in messenger to a journo I know who works for the Scottish Daily Mail, will keep spotlight updated.
Like the disclosures of the Boston globe investigation ,the findings of spotlight is equally disturbing.Utterly staggering. I honestly can't express the level of admiration I have for all involved in Spotlight. Your incredible efforts will be rewarded, of that I am certain.
We’re really not mate. We’re all just normal people that got together because something is far wrong here.
Yes, sometimes it takes its toll but not one of us will give up.
Something else I’d just like to say. Spotlight have obviously shown print from their own club newspaper. Now obviously this can be found by anyone that goes digging, but what we have is more. We hold documents that have never been seen. We know things that some think we don’t.
I also would like to say something to the posters that say nothing will come of this. You might be right but the progress we’ve made in the past 3 years is actually astounding. Shocking in fact. Please can I remind you that victims and their families sometimes view this thread and it’s not really nice for them to see negative posts.
Hopefully the day will come where we can hand our research to a full independent public inquiry. If not, then we will show it one way or another.
You guys are doing a fantastic bit of detective work and I can only wish you strength and energy to keep going.
" Staying Silent " is gonna be their problem sooner than they think
You can only get to Netflix if your an agent or has work used by them beforeYou guys are doing a fantastic bit of detective work and I can only wish you strength and energy to keep going.
Scotland is probably a dead end for any media exposure but surely the likes of Netflix would be interested in exposing the biggest sporting scandal in the world and the effort that went into hiding and protecting the guilty?
I find this recent statement from Angela Constance unsavoury in the extreme - to absolve any institution, or any circumstance, from a child abuse enquiry is a shocking position for the government to take.
to attempt to justify the decision by using timescale as a barrier to a thorough investigation is just beyond comprehension
Arses are twitching..
However this pans out, I have three wishes.We’re really not mate. We’re all just normal people that got together because something is far wrong here.
Yes, sometimes it takes its toll but not one of us will give up.
Something else I’d just like to say. Spotlight have obviously shown print from their own club newspaper. Now obviously this can be found by anyone that goes digging, but what we have is more. We hold documents that have never been seen. We know things that some think we don’t.
I also would like to say something to the posters that say nothing will come of this. You might be right but the progress we’ve made in the past 3 years is actually astounding. Shocking in fact. Please can I remind you that victims and their families sometimes view this thread and it’s not really nice for them to see negative posts.
Hopefully the day will come where we can hand our research to a full independent public inquiry. If not, then we will show it one way or another.
And that bucket of shite of a club closed down for what they done..and didnt doHowever this pans out, I have three wishes.
Firstly that the victims get justice and as much financial compensation as possible.
Secondly that the culprits and their enablers are jailed for as long as they are allowed to breath God’s air.
Thirdly, that everybody that has helped bring this together is rewarded with a major Euromillions win.
Well said sirAnd that bucket of shite of a club closed down for what they done..and didnt do
I worked with a boy who started all this pish about tax dodging.I had a discussion on this topic with a devout catholic and Celtic fan and cut it short when said:
“This is all scaremongering to besmirch Celtic. Listen, financial cheating is fact on your side but all this child abuse stuff is whataboutery and a targeted effort to pin something on Celtic.”
That’s what you’re up against. Not a care for the victims!
I’ve had the same discussions for years now.I had a discussion on this topic with a devout catholic and Celtic fan and cut it short when said:
“This is all scaremongering to besmirch Celtic. Listen, financial cheating is fact on your side but all this child abuse stuff is whataboutery and a targeted effort to pin something on Celtic.”
That’s what you’re up against. Not a care for the victims!
The relevant inquiry in England and Wales placed no limits on the type of institution that would be covered.It's obvious no government will authorise an inquiry into abuse at one organisation for fear of being accused of bigotry/racism etc. But surely a wider ranging inquiry into football clubs, religious gatherings, boy scouts and the boys brigade should be pushed for.
Nikla and Co will still manage to avoid a public inquiry even if this comes to fruition.
And that’s why when the cross border abuse is proved then she’ll have no say in the matter.Nikla and Co will still manage to avoid a public inquiry even if this comes to fruition.
Covering the bases. I like.And that’s why when the cross border abuse is proved then she’ll have no say in the matter.
Spotlight will hand no material whatsoever to an SNP led inquiry.
Dornan.. Who’s son played with cbc whilst the beasts were operating. He offered to assist Gordon Woods then blocked him after the SNP wereCovering the bases. I like.
Independence trumps all.I find this totally sinister that there is no enquiries or government reviews into this particular issue. Is this for fear of losing votes? Is this what it’s become?
Celtic we’re looking after children in a residential capacity whilst on tour in United States. Might have only been for a couple of weeks but it was still residential.Child abuse inquiry: Angela Constance defends remit http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-35535524
A Scottish government minister has defended its inquiry into child abuse after survivors' groups called for its remit to be extended.
Campaigners have claimed institutions such as the Catholic Church and Boy Scouts could be "let off the hook".
But Education Secretary Angela Constance said the scope of the inquiry was "very far reaching".
And she said religious organisations were covered when they had looked after children in a residential capacity.
But survivors' organisations, who are due to meet Ms Constance on Thursday, have called for its remit to be extended amid claims that institutions such as the Catholic Church would be excluded from its investigations.
Speaking ahead of the meeting, Ms Constance told the BBC's Good Morning Scotland programme that "religious organisations and orders are included in the inquiry where they have looked after children in a residential capacity".
She said the scope of the inquiry had already been widened, and that the definitions of "in care" and "abuse" were very broad.
She added: "What we have tried to do is to try to strike the right balance.
"We want to ensure that survivors don't actually lose hope and that the inquiry will report back within a reasonable timescale - we have set four years - and actually be able to make clear and meaningful recommendations."
*It does not cover children who were abused while living with their natural or adoptive families, while using sports and leisure clubs or attending faith based organisations on a day to day basis*.
The inquiry will also not examine allegations of children being abused in non-boarding schools, nursery or day-care centres.
We have everything related to the USA trips and other countries the boys club visited. We also have contacts in each of these countries. That’s all we can really say on this at the moment.Celtic we’re looking after children in a residential capacity whilst on tour in United States. Might have only been for a couple of weeks but it was still residential.
this is the problem and those listed need to be exposed fully once the day comes that opens the door. Just like Savile, this day is coming and the evidence gathered regarding those names listed should place them in a dock themselves.Dornan.. Who’s son played with cbc whilst the beasts were operating. He offered to assist Gordon Woods then blocked him after the SNP were
re-elected. Apologist
Humza.. No communication with victims or families during his time as justice secretary. Apologist.
Mason.. Who believes the Rangers tax case was as serious as child abuse happening under the name of that club. Apologist.
The list goes on. Not one of them when approached by Spotlight and asked if they would raise a motion in Holyrood agreed to do so. They gave us the same standard reply. They would not raise a motion whilst there was an ongoing police investigation, and also stated they wouldn’t comment until the SFA review was complete.
They stated that it wasn’t possible. We proved them wrong. An independent inquiry can take place under the guidance of a judge whilst there is a police investigation taking place.
The SNP are part of the problem, and certain individuals within that party should be forced to answer questions under oath.
SNP = Coverups and apologists.
Scotland’s shame.
Correct Catholic core vote.I find this totally sinister that there is no enquiries or government reviews into this particular issue. Is this for fear of losing votes? Is this what it’s become?