Nacho Novo
Well-Known Member
The only group speaking the truth are the Union Bears who put their names on the line, would trust some of their older members mid 20's-30's to run the club better because they know what needs done.
Ask yourself this?
You want the RFC Board chastised for appointing Murty. Fine. But who at C1872 takes the rap for appointing this guy (the OP)?
I was a member but giving up due to the obvious lack of influence they have with Robertson. I wont rejoin until he is gone. If club 1872 can force a waster like him out and influence his pathetic cowardly decisions that completely ignore fan opinion then what is the point.Sounds familiar Stewart Robertson making promises to engage with the supporters and then doing nothing
Ok mate nice one was having 2nd thoughtsYeah. Will continue to be.
Hopefully a restructuring can add some impetus to a great platform.
I am still a member, I also have my own shares and have been contributing to this cause from the very early days of the RST.I am still a member but each bitch fest at Club 1872 edges me closer to cancelling.
Suppose I am just happy that at least a group of fans have a decent share holding in the club.
So Rangers are paying Chris Graham to assist in C1872 ?
Wtf!
I am still a member, I also have my own shares and have been contributing to this cause from the very early days of the RST.
After the last round of infighting I was so close to saying enough is enough and using my hard earned to buy more shares in my own name.
After reading that statement, I am now of that opinion again.
Yeah I think I've had enough. Time to save myself the £10 a month I think. Shambolic.
With all due respect mate, the board are fobbing him off left right and centre regarding broomie4bears.... When will we realise that this board don't give a fuk about the fans who have stuck with and pulled the club through the darkest of times. Shambles from top to bottom
The OP states Rangers are paying Chris Graham to assist. Independence is questionable.
We just can never organise ourselves as a fan base,p
Club 1872 have been structurally and operationally poor for quite a while now.
I first contacted them via email to express where my expertise lay and how I could add value via a number of micro improvements that can make quite a rapid improvement to both perception and communication.
I received no reply.
Then, I sent another email highlighting all of the above once more - and providing the lack of response as one of the reasons why my suggestions mattered, with real world examples.
I received no reply.
Iain (the OP) and I then got to talking when I realsied he was a board member and again raised my suggestions - and I could tell by the way he was interacting with me that he cared. I could tell he really wanted to make a difference to Club 1872 and the perception, and the way it operated.
So I sent across a substantial set of action plan points with my personal contact details to Iain and he was quite clear in that he was assigned to certain projects outwith the scope of my expertise but would absolutely be passing everything across to someone dealing with those areas and we would hopefully get the ball rolling.
I have no doubt whatsoever Iain passed my information across - but yet again, nobody ever got in touch.
I own and operate two very substantially active businesses in consulting and digital services and was prepared to give a lot of time and effort to Club 1872 for free - for work I'd normally invoice a fortune for, and nobody could be arsed even replying.
That told me all I needed to know about Club 1872, I cancelled shortly thereafter.
I don't doubt anything Iain has said here, the management of Club 1872 has been borderline incompetent for years now and shows no sign of improvement, ever.
I've said it before, I badly, badly miss the militant BITE of the RST and wish this merger never happened. (Lifetime RST Member here!)
If that's true about Chris, that's a joke. If Laura really did say that to Stewart Robertson, she needs to resign as she's 10000% so badly out of touch with their members and the thought of her leading the charge for the people she apparently disagrees with is very concerning.
I have no reason to doubt what the OP says and there's certainly been smoke for a while about this issue; I didn't believe it initially but I'm coming round to it now.
What I will say is that Club1872 is worth saving, even if that's with a change of leadership. It's a unique opportunity to control the club and safeguard our future forevermore, if we take it. That may mean other fans taking an activist stance and changing the C1872 board. If the current incumbents are useless, then all the more reason to take out or maintain a subscription and ensure the necessary changes are made.
Don't think there is a minimum investment. I usually buy in small amounts of around £100.00 when I can.This might be a route I would go down but to be honest I'm not clued up on buying shares as an individual.
What is the minimum investment you can buy at one time?
Sadly that is true. Look at Foundation of Hearts - 8,000 members, united and making substantial contributions to Hearts. Somehow they have done it right. We should be able to do it but I suspect we never will.We just can never organise ourselves as a fan base,p
Don't think there is a minimum investment. I usually buy in small amounts of around £100.00 when I can.
If you want to vote or attend at the AGM you need to have them certified in your name, forget the proper terminology for it. That again is a few quid more, not much, can't remember how much as I haven't bought any for the last couple of years as putting my money into club 1872.
Why is their gender relevant? I’d have Leeann Dempster as our MD in a heartbeat.
Between your constant inane threads, and now coming away with pish like this, it’s just getting ridiculous.
Club 1872 have been structurally and operationally poor for quite a while now.
I first contacted them via email to express where my expertise lay and how I could add value via a number of micro improvements that can make quite a rapid improvement to both perception and communication.
I received no reply.
Then, I sent another email highlighting all of the above once more - and providing the lack of response as one of the reasons why my suggestions mattered, with real world examples.
I received no reply.
Iain (the OP) and I then got to talking when I realsied he was a board member and again raised my suggestions - and I could tell by the way he was interacting with me that he cared. I could tell he really wanted to make a difference to Club 1872 and the perception, and the way it operated.
So I sent across a substantial set of action plan points with my personal contact details to Iain and he was quite clear in that he was assigned to certain projects outwith the scope of my expertise but would absolutely be passing everything across to someone dealing with those areas and we would hopefully get the ball rolling.
I have no doubt whatsoever Iain passed my information across - but yet again, nobody ever got in touch.
I own and operate two very substantially active businesses in consulting and digital services and was prepared to give a lot of time and effort to Club 1872 for free - for work I'd normally invoice a fortune for, and nobody could be arsed even replying.
That told me all I needed to know about Club 1872, I cancelled shortly thereafter.
I don't doubt anything Iain has said here, the management of Club 1872 has been borderline incompetent for years now and shows no sign of improvement, ever.
I've said it before, I badly, badly miss the militant BITE of the RST and wish this merger never happened. (Lifetime RST Member here!)
If that's true about Chris, that's a joke. If Laura really did say that to Stewart Robertson, she needs to resign as she's 10000% so badly out of touch with their members and the thought of her leading the charge for the people she apparently disagrees with is very concerning.
Are you 12.How did two women get so high up in club1872?
From the OP statement they should be chased.
Call me sexist but its never sat right with me having woman in charge.
Sadly that is true. Look at Foundation of Hearts - 8,000 members, united and making substantial contributions to Hearts. Somehow they have done it right. We should be able to do it but I suspect we never will.
Snap. I've just posted the same mate.Are you 12.
Given the amount of fans money in their trust and the shareholding they have, we should care.On a serious note, does anyone really care anymore? Club1872 are a joke
Are you 12.
How did two women get so high up in club1872?
From the OP statement they should be chased.
How did two women get so high up in club1872?
From the OP statement they should be chased.
And its a valid question IMO as people agree with me Samuel.
Shop around there used to be a thread on here and most recommended a firm called Hargreaves Lansdowne if I remember correctly.That's certainly something I would like to do. I have just done a quick google search to try and find out how to buy shares in Rangers. The club website says JP Jenkins is the trading platform. Do I just register with them and buy shares through them?
I was involved from the beginning with RF along with Richard Atkinson,James Blair and Greg, there were about a dozen involved but the last 3 were IMO the ones that drove it.The fans should get a seat. 100%. Just how that happens is up for debate
Personally I think c1872 is the right mechanism to provide that person. If they can sort it out. It shouldn’t be difficult.
I am not a member nor do I want to be a member. I do not agree with the way the organisation is being run at present and frankly I do not have the experience, skill set nor amI clever enough to change things and take things in the right direction. If I thought I could/would make a difference I would, however I am not prepared to put myself forward for election if it would be further detrimental to the organisation.Put yourself forward for election.
Unless you have an ego that needs petted it won’t be for you mate, the Club 1872 is still a young organisation who is still at the ego it’s stage further down the line after a few elections it will get better and function as it was meant too.Fans and club first. Transparency, hardwork and tenacity. Can’t be that hard!