Edinburgh is full of apathetic football fans imo. I’ve thought this for years. They just don’t go to watch their clubs regularly enough. They fill hampden if they get to a final but where are they week and week out. A dichotomy of that is my own place of work. 8 of us regularly meet for work related stuff and it consists of 4 from Glasgow and 4 from Edinburgh and we are all passionate about football , we talk for ages about games when we are together. The 4 from Glasgow are (me) 3 season ticket holders at Ibrox and 1 at Celtic. The 4 from Edinburgh are 2 Hibs and 2 hearts fans. None of the Edinburgh lot have been to a hearts or Hibs game for years, yet they talk in detail about Hibs and hearts tactics, live local enough to the stadiums but never go to watch their teams. I find it bizarre.
Bar Hearts and Hibs in the 50s, Dundee and Killie in the 60s and Aberdeen and Dundee United in the 80s, the Old Firm have won the league since Scottish football began.You’ve just described everywhere in Scotland outside of Glasgow, it’s not just Edinburgh.
The reason for it nobody outside of Glasgow has won the league in 36 years.
Every other team in Scotland wouldn’t fill their end at a hampden final. Hibs and hearts seem to do it on the occasions they make it. So where are they on league match days. They can’t be bothered. It is this reason imo that their clubs are unsuccessful , more fans encourages more investment , sponsorship and in turn better players will be attracted to the club. Rangers fans proved this when we were in our demoted years and look where we are now.You’ve just described everywhere in Scotland outside of Glasgow, it’s not just Edinburgh.
The reason for it nobody outside of Glasgow has won the league in 36 years.
Its early days, yet but a hypothetical to ponder. If any of them actually won the League, they would automatically gain almost £ 30 million CL money. ? Yes, its a boring Monday night. lol
Hmmm not win the league but possibly split the old firm if celtic continue to fail.........Its early days, yet but a hypothetical to ponder. If any of them actually won the League, they would automatically gain almost £ 30 million CL money. ? Yes, its a boring Monday night. l
I think the last time anyone sustained something approximating a challenge throughout a season was Hearts back in 2005/06 when pipping us into second place, but even then they still finished 17 points behind the Yahoos.People forget that Kilmarnock were second in the table as late as December in 1998/99.
There have been quite a few diddy teams over the years that look decent at this stage of the season before disappearing back into irrelevance.
The game has changed since then. Bosman had a massive detrimental effect on the rest. You think the likes of Miller and McLeish would have spent an entire career at the sheep post Bosman?Bar Hearts and Hibs in the 50s, Dundee and Killie in the 60s and Aberdeen and Dundee United in the 80s, the Old Firm have won the league since Scottish football began.
Aberdeen also won it in the 50s.Bar Hearts and Hibs in the 50s, Dundee and Killie in the 60s and Aberdeen and Dundee United in the 80s, the Old Firm have won the league since Scottish football began.
Hearts are alright are they not unionists?
Best they will do is one of them sticks it out until MarchWorth remembering they’ve both drawn 3 games as well, the real test will come in the next couple of weeks for both of them
Does anybody seriously prefer to watch two games v Hamilton at the expense of two old firm games?My thoughts exactly.
I really do feel that if BT Sport is still a thing when the SPFL rights are up for renewal (there has been talk of BT selling it's sports broadcasting business) then the league should sit down with them and propose an 18 team, 34 match per season league with BT holding exclusive rights.
Current 12 plus:
Killie
Inverness
Partick
Dunfermline
Ayr
Hamilton
Two sides automatically relegated. 16th placed side go into a playoff with 3rd placed Championship side.
34 games per season versus the current 38 also means we could have a proper winter break in January with less chance of fixture pile ups.
IMO there is no question we'd get a good deal, even with only two OF league meetings per season.
BT were happy to show Scottish football even when Sky had the rights to all the OF matches, so clearly that wouldn't be a deal breaker for them. And their coverage is ten times better than Sky's.
Sky have absolute contempt for the Scottish game.
NO. END THREAD.Its early days, yet but a hypothetical to ponder. If any of them actually won the League, they would automatically gain almost £ 30 million CL money. ? Yes, its a boring Monday night. lol
It’s about marketing the league as a whole.Does anybody seriously prefer to watch two games v Hamilton at the expense of two old firm games?
Marketing the league by shoving in pointless games like Accies v Ayr? The big bucks will be rolling in for that. What Scottish football needs is investment and it's not coming from games like those. Get our biggest clubs playing each other on TV in our biggest grounds with decent crowds.It’s about marketing the league as a whole.
No one outside of Scotland gives a shit about the Scottish league because it’s seen as a boring two horse race.
Under the current system we could end up playing the same team six times a season (if you include the cups). That’s insane. It’s boring. It’s tinpot.
Me?Does anybody seriously prefer to watch two games v Hamilton at the expense of two old firm games?
Nah, once the bheggars get the Japanese Messi back they will unfortunately be our only challengers this season. Depth and quality of squad is key to winning this league. We have both but the scum will definitely add to their wafer thin squad in January if they are still within touching distance and the other two wont have enough depth and quality to run the course of this season. Hibs look stronger though.
Six Old Firms are exciting though....It’s about marketing the league as a whole.
No one outside of Scotland gives a shit about the Scottish league because it’s seen as a boring two horse race.
Under the current system we could end up playing the same team six times a season (if you include the cups). That’s insane. It’s boring. It’s tinpot.
And that is the saddest part of it mate. Imagine being a fan of a team in any sport where you have absolutely no ambition?
Six Old Firms are exciting though....
It’s about marketing the league as a whole.
No one outside of Scotland gives a shit about the Scottish league because it’s seen as a boring two horse race.
Under the current system we could end up playing the same team six times a season (if you include the cups). That’s insane. It’s boring. It’s tinpot.
Aberdeen also won it in the 50s.
Motherwell won it in the 30s.
And if you go way back to the late 19th and the start of the 20th century, Hibs won it, Hearts won it twice, Third Lanark won it, and Dumbarton won it twice.
So the duopoly has been broken from time to time.
From 1905 to 1939, Motherwell’s win in 1932 was the only exception.
The current run, from 1986 to present, is the longest period of duopoly ever.
Hearts’ are running on the adrenaline of being back in the top league. Their lack of squad quality means they’ll finish mid-table at best in my opinion. Hibs could challenge for second for a bit longer but I doubt it’ll last past January. Once the tramps go out of Europe they’ll secure second, which they should look at as relative success this season.