That’s dead on for some , takes us about 6 hours getting to Ibrox , couple of pints on the boat and cple pints in the wee Rangers / louden etc , , hard not to use the toilets ! Unless everybody shouldn’t take a cple pints !
Current Ibrox Stadium Problems and Future Redevelopments
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Nacho Novo
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As reported in this morning's Annual Report - A statue of legendary Rangers Manager Walter Smith is to be placed at the Copland Road end of the stadium.
https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/walter-smith-statue-to-be-commissioned/emmU2pOGFoVc4nC4IAm8Y
"The biggest project though is in the Blue Sky Lounge, where work started in June and is expected to open before the end of
the year. This state-of-the-art multi-purpose lounge will boast panoramic views of Ibrox. It has allowed the Club to add three
additional rows of seats at the back of the Sandy Jardine Stand, which will add 352 premium and 117 general access seats, as
well as providing a world-class hospitality offering, and a new permanent location for our Restaurant.
2021/22 saw us install a new hybrid pitch and undersoil heating system at Ibrox, and I am sure you will all agree we now have by
far the best playing surface in the country.
We have been very open in the past about the need to significantly improve our disabled facilities. We will be delighted to present a plan of action, to ensure we deliver the standard of facilities deserved by Rangers supporters, at our upcoming AGM.
Since the year end, the Rangers Charity Foundation has established a lease with Glasgow City Council to operate the Ibrox Community Complex, which sits opposite the Stadium on Edmiston Drive. Over the coming years, the development of this facility will be a further important connection between the Foundation, the Club and its local people.
Recent improvements include the installation of solar panels on New Edmiston House, a rain-collection and irrigation system, and replacing gas boilers with inverter-driven heat pumps.
Forecasted capital expenditure necessary to maintain and improve the stadium, training facility and 'general Ibrox vicinity'
including the development of New Edmiston House.
£10.6m has been invested in the Stadium, Training Ground and New Edmiston House over the past two year period."
https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/a...and-notice-of-2022-agm/5pFf0OZcq2CLkEe1rbgHyp
https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/walter-smith-statue-to-be-commissioned/emmU2pOGFoVc4nC4IAm8Y
"The biggest project though is in the Blue Sky Lounge, where work started in June and is expected to open before the end of
the year. This state-of-the-art multi-purpose lounge will boast panoramic views of Ibrox. It has allowed the Club to add three
additional rows of seats at the back of the Sandy Jardine Stand, which will add 352 premium and 117 general access seats, as
well as providing a world-class hospitality offering, and a new permanent location for our Restaurant.
2021/22 saw us install a new hybrid pitch and undersoil heating system at Ibrox, and I am sure you will all agree we now have by
far the best playing surface in the country.
We have been very open in the past about the need to significantly improve our disabled facilities. We will be delighted to present a plan of action, to ensure we deliver the standard of facilities deserved by Rangers supporters, at our upcoming AGM.
Since the year end, the Rangers Charity Foundation has established a lease with Glasgow City Council to operate the Ibrox Community Complex, which sits opposite the Stadium on Edmiston Drive. Over the coming years, the development of this facility will be a further important connection between the Foundation, the Club and its local people.
Recent improvements include the installation of solar panels on New Edmiston House, a rain-collection and irrigation system, and replacing gas boilers with inverter-driven heat pumps.
Forecasted capital expenditure necessary to maintain and improve the stadium, training facility and 'general Ibrox vicinity'
including the development of New Edmiston House.
£10.6m has been invested in the Stadium, Training Ground and New Edmiston House over the past two year period."
https://www.rangers.co.uk/article/a...and-notice-of-2022-agm/5pFf0OZcq2CLkEe1rbgHyp
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Nacho Novo
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Rangers are planning to upgrade the capacity of Ibrox by 727 seats, plus an extra 352 premium seats and 117 general access seats for the Blue Sky Lounge which would take the stadium capacity up to 52,013 in total.
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perthtruebluetwo
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just need to lower the pitch and then take out the screens and we will be touching 60k
Nacho Novo
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If Rangers managed to lower the pitch down I'm sure the figure quoted was an extra 6,000 more seats by adding in 3 more rows to each stand, which would take the capacity up to 58,000.
Taking things step by step so build from the top of the stadium down to the bottom so hopefully in time the pitch does get lowered even further and more seats can be added.
Andrew webb
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Here's hoping
Gringotts Dragon
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Would the new sections in BR and CR not be affected if the structure behind the screens were removed?
Also, I don’t foresee the new sections being built in the foreseeable anyway. Even 1 extra row would be ideal to take us up to 54000 eventually
TerrySilverLoyal
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Never happening
JMCK
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Is there much space left to lower the pitch?
Gringotts Dragon
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Chat was that they thought they could lower it to put in the 3 rows but they’d need to install some form of tank underneath due to water table I’m sure
Midfield General
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What about the spaces between the Main Stand and Copland and the Main Stand and the Broomie.Could these stands be connected or even a stand alone structure.A space could still be left underneath for emergency access.
I think Stewart Robertson said that timescale was a problem in doing this and it could not be done in a close season . It would be good if this could be managed but I don't expect it will happen.
Bluebeard
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How come we managed to do it 20 odd years ago during one close season?
I’d my seat in the govan front at the time. Literally left my seat last game of the season and by the next season starting it was all complete
I think its probably to do with the issues with the water table/ground water when having to go down further than we did the last time.
I don't know, I just remember him saying that the time scale caused problems. It was just a passing comment after the last 1872 contributors meeting . Rangers held a meeting after where we were invited to attend and he mentioned it there.
stephen ferris
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Out of interest when was that meeting mate?
It must have been over a year ago. It was the last time Club 1872 held a Contributors Meeting. Rangers invited everyone who attended to a meeting after. If I remember Stewart Robertson Ross Wilson and James Bisgrove were in attendance.
Dynamo
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Has that helmet bought himself a blue tick?
We aren’t “digging down” so that won’t be an issue.
Do you mean short term or do you mean ever mate?
Why not?
Both john bennett and stewart robertson have spoke in the past 1-2 years of some fairly significant stadium expansion which was assumed to be in the 5000 region.
What has changed?
Captain_Buns
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Water table n’at?
TerrySilverLoyal
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A complete dripHas that helmet bought himself a blue tick?
I guess he’s posted that from his new hideout in the Copland floorboards because he’s been flushed out of living underneath the NEH and Under the ones in the Blue Sky Lounge
Does this mean the new seats would turn into hospitality?
Captain_Buns
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Has that helmet bought himself a blue tick?
It was his unlocked reward for completing his Rangers tie collection that he always tweets about.
Sounds more like some general works to update/improve the current office space since its going to be used more with different parts of the clubs business relocating or working from there.
Blue Goose
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Apparently the Rangers lottery will be housed in there along with the SLO fan department. I also heard that other departments were going in there too.
The work that is happening (isn’t this what this thread is about?) doesn’t involve lowering the stands.
I thought you were saying that we wont be digging down even in the future when apparently that still appears to be the slightly longer term target for a reasonable size expansion.
Picked ye up wrong fella.
Nacho Novo
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As far as I'm aware from interviews with Stewart Robertson it can be done and lowered down even further to accomodate another three rows for each stand. But it wouldn't have got done this season with the new hybrid pitch getting put in. Build that then ripping it back out again after a season wouldn't make any sense.
I would also suspect Rangers would need to move to Hampden for a brief period of time in order to complete the project as it will be a huge job.
As much as we want the screens taken out and replaced with seats, I honestly don't know if that can be done. It makes sense to, but could see that being astronomical amounts to do. Even extending the Main Stand to the Broomloan or Copland would be astronomical as well. Likewise adding a third tier to each of the other stands which would look incredible.
Nacho Novo
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A big change in the home dressing room as well, with the picture of the late Queen expected to move into the museum at new Edmiston House.
Andrew webb
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Excellent idea and atmosphere would be better I think
Gringotts Dragon
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Won’t ever happen in the UK on safety grounds. Getting safe standing was a big enough challenge
Of course it will happen. Its just a matter of time.
Gringotts Dragon
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If the proposed expansion in BR and CR happens, coupled with even 2 extra rows in the front sections by digging down I think that would be more than enough
A 55000 seater stadium would be ideal. Obviously 3 extra rows would be the preference but I don’t see the need to remove the screens given the cost
I’m a bit too young to remember but what was the reason the corners weren’t double tiered?
Gringotts Dragon
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It would require a complete redesign of the rows. Essentially you need the rows to be double stepped for it to work
Couldn’t happen in Ibrox with the current design
It can be done but the roofs of all three new stands and the corners would almost certainly need to come off. The majority of the work in building new roof supports outside the stadium footprint could be done before the roofs needed to be removed though. I’ve always wondered if it was feasible to replace the support structures for the three roofs whilst leaving the roofs in place.
The People
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David Murray changed his mind from this to to the cheaper option of some corner seats and screens.
Tbf he thought there would be a market for beam backs to Ibrox for big European games and the like .
Roof support structures i.e. the dark coloured boxes running the entire length on top of the roofs of the three new stands
Gringotts Dragon
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Those steel supports would’ve ruined that. Looks horrible
David Murray changed his mind from this to to the cheaper option of some corner seats and screens.
Tbf he thought there would be a market for beam backs to Ibrox for big European games and the like .
Architects?
I think its been done at other stadiums. New supports are built outside the current footprint. These use a cantilever system to support new roofs. These can be built higher to accommodate more rows at the back of each stand and the corners can be filled in. It aint cheap.
Nothing will be done re the corners in the forseeable future at least as it isn't currently viable, it was looked at re wheelchair spaces.
The screens can be moved to the Broomloan and Copland roofs above the goals without blocking anyone's view from the rear of either stand.
Gringotts Dragon
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Of course, my point was more that it’s not an option for Ibrox in its current form. I don’t know the first thing about engineering so won’t pretend to know the cost involved with changing the layout of the steps
I think you need a 2 step terrace as opposed to the current 1 step set up for that going by the German set up.
The amount of work required, architects, engineers, materials and material for a negligible amount of seats means the 2 corners at the main stand will stay the same way forever, unless we come into serious money.
Unfortunately, one of the pitfalls of being the first to properly redevelop our stadium meant we were 10-15 years early in terms of building techniques, cantilevered roofs with external supports and joined up stands. It was still fashionable and more practical from a policing standpoint to have 4 separate stands with the hooliganism landscape of the 1980s.
Oh well that's that then. I guess we're destined to have a shit atmosphere for ever more. Looks like the majority dont care anyway. At least we've got the Louden for a sing song.
Herman
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I think if they went to the fans with a blue heaven type scheme coupled with stadium sponsorship we could do the corners, somebody said it would cost circa 45 million to do it
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