Rickety Cricket
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He's probably the kunt in the wee Rangers feeling the poor bloke up.Your determined to denounce this guy. That's 2 posts.
He's probably the kunt in the wee Rangers feeling the poor bloke up.Your determined to denounce this guy. That's 2 posts.
So many on here ready to throw our support under the bus with no evidence being provided.
Was it reported to the stewards and police?
Also the media happy to run this story, but nothing on the sectarian stuff at the celtic game.
You believe 20/25 people sang the Sakala song at him? 1st part of the story I can see 2nd is Jackanory imo.I have no reason not to believe him, but there is some of that which just reads a bit like complete BS re what the experience of either the WRC or the apprehension to attend because of elements of racism.
As someone who abhors racism of any kind I am sure you have seen them too?As someone who abhors racism of any kind can you highlight the views you're talking about you sadly read on here??
Singing the Sakala song at him is the worst transgression of the article IMO. It's the not-so-subtle inference that because he's black, he looks like Fashion Sakala.20/25 people singing the Sakala song to him? Ha ha you believe that says more about you than anything racist.
We all know that it was said with racist attitude. And as for what happened in the wee rangers, staff there would have/should have sorted it for the guy. Absolutely shocking this shit still happens and especially in small section of our fans, it happened to my mate also who is black while standing in the stands and he has a red hand tattooed on his chest. Took my mate nearly half a season to go back to Ibrox.“Around 25 minutes into the game, I’m doing my usual and talking football with fans around me, having a good time. But then I see an older man waving his arms at me, he looks at me and says ‘I can’t understand a word you are saying, are you even speaking English?’
Is that racist?
Why?
Any Friday night game I’ll get totally blitzed for.Friday was like people had just discovered alcohol.
Cornered?You believe 20/25 people cornered him to sing Sakala song at him? 1st part of the story I can see 2nd is Jackanory imo.
What's your point?
Can you give me proof of this every day racism on FF in the lounge??As someone who abhors racism of any kind I am sure you have seen them too?
Even on this thread there are posters indicating it is not true, and that the victim is actually the racist.
And I am sure you can check the lounge to see it pretty much every day. There is a reason that any thread on here that touches upon racism is closed. Like this one probably will be. Of course we should all report such instances and I do, including one last year of a poster bemoaning the "negro race" in a thread on BLM.
I'll edit the post. You're right doesn't say cornered. Doesn't take away from the point.Cornered?
Can you explain why you've just made that up and flung it in? At no point does he allude to being cornered.
Attempting to throw dirt on a racism victims story by fabricating parts to make him seem dishonest is the absolute pits of society behaviour.
Seems a bit strange.“Around 25 minutes into the game, I’m doing my usual and talking football with fans around me, having a good time. But then I see an older man waving his arms at me, he looks at me and says ‘I can’t understand a word you are saying, are you even speaking English?’
Is that racist?
Very good points.Think the problem is that for most of us, including me, when someone says racism I'm instantly thinking of overtly racist terms using derogatory, foul language and wondering why other people haven't jumped in. In this case it's more passive racism, disguised as banter, but racism nonetheless, but maybe not as easily identifiable to someone who doesn't face it, especially in a crowded place with a drink in you. Sad that this still happens, but it's a societal and generational issue that requires education.
No point, your agenda is clear as day.I'll edit the post. You're right doesn't say cornered. Doesn't take away from the point.
You seemed to have have completed miss read my post.Honestly, the utter state of it.
He is one of our own, so we're not flinging him under the bus are we?
What on earth is wrong with people? Haven’t they learned even the most basics of respect?Another racial claim being made against our fans
East Lothian journalist 'in tears' after racial abuse at Rangers game and pub
Bobby Nwanze, 32, is a Rangers man but was left in floods of tears after being racially abused in Ibrox as well as in a local Rangers supporters bar.www.edinburghlive.co.uk
A freelance sport producer from East Lothian says he was racially abused on two occasions over the space of a few hours after attending a Rangers football game.
Bobby Nwanze, 32, said that he was forced to leave a Rangers Scottish Cup match vs Stirling Albion at half time on Friday January 21, after he faced abuse from a fellow supporter in the stands.
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To make matters worse, Bobby was subjected to a further bout of abuse when visiting a Rangers themed bar close to the stadium.
Speaking to Edinburgh Live, Bobby said that he was left in tears in the car when returning from Glasgow, and that the incident had put him off from returning to Ibrox but that he would do so, as he did not want to empower racists.
On the abuse he received, he said: “Why I like Rangers is that the team is relatable to me. In the past the squad was not overly diverse but when you look at the team now that has completely changed. The captain Tavernier is black as is Bassey, Balogun, Aribo, Morelos, Sakala, Bacuna and Kamara. So for me I identify with them.
“To be honest, I am often apprehensive about going to live games due to the elements of racism that can occur there. But my friend Abie, John and I decided to go through for the Scottish Cup tie as we thought it would be a nice family friendly atmosphere with it being the fourth round of the cup.
“Around 25 minutes into the game, I’m doing my usual and talking football with fans around me, having a good time. But then I see an older man waving his arms at me, he looks at me and says ‘I can’t understand a word you are saying, are you even speaking English?’
“I turned to my friends and asked if he had just said what I thought he had. After that I just felt sick and my mood completely dropped. My friends said to try to ignore him but I could not.
“So we left to go to a Rangers bar, I think it was called the Wee Rangers, and when we walked in it was as if everyone had stopped to stare at me walking to the bar - it was weird. We ordered some drinks and just took ourselves to a quiet corner to watch the rest of the game. That is when a middle aged man approached me.
“This gentleman would not leave me alone. He said ‘You are black, what does Fashion Sakala mean?’ My friend asked what he said and when I repeated it they were absolutely astounded. The man proceeded to keep calling me Fashion Sakala even though I asked him to leave me alone to watch the game.
“My friends then tried their best to get them to leave me alone but then the man turned with their group of 20-30 mates and started singing the Fashion Sakala song at me. Now I do not mind banter but my race is not a joke for other people’s amusement. This was being derogative.
“The guy then sat next to me again and started to touch my arms whilst saying, ‘You’re a big boy eh, you're always big.’ He continued to bother me before I was stern and said to leave me alone. It was then that the man said I shouldn’t be there.
Jackanory is the bit you have added about being cornered.You believe 20/25 people sang the Sakala song at him? 1st part of the story I can see 2nd is Jackanory imo.
I’m with you here.Not a chance it happened without people around not sorting it out by telling them to shut up or go into a busy pub and get abused while others never said a word.
I read something similar a couple of years ago somewhere but can’t remember what in.
I just hope my memory is right and callingBS on it, if wrong WTF were the folk round the guy doing ?
He's been the victim of racist abuse and how he reacted is entirely up to him.I’ll be honest find it hard to believe . I’ve ko doubt we’ve an element of bad apples in our support but rather leave in tears , could he not contact a police officer or steward ? They would be kicked out and jailed leaving him to stay and support his team . Also surely people beside him , if front, behind , would have heard this and surely they in turn would have called this abuse out ?
What I don't believe 20/25 people started doing that? You and others posters underlying tone for people that don't follow your world view being racist is boring tiresome and lazy.No point, your agenda is clear as day.
How can we stand with Kamara, Roofe etc if we are abusing our own cause of the colour of their skin?
Size of the guy, he should have just slapped them!Has anybody listened to the guy speak? He has a east of Scotland Edinburgh accent maybe it was that. Racism has no place at Ibrox
I changed that tbf. Totally take that back. Still don't believe itJackanory is the bit you have added about being cornered.
Utter nonsense, the 2 are not the same. We all seen with our eyes the player cupping his mouth and saying something to Kamara. His reaction told you it was something racist.The automatic position of he’s lying is what we all lambasted Celtic fans for doing about Glen Kamara. Trust, listen, educate and or deal with
Especially on match day!So we left to go to a Rangers bar, I think it was called the Wee Rangers, and when we walked in it was as if everyone had stopped to stare at me walking to the bar - it was weird.
That’s a well shady thing to say IMO, doubt many would have actually given a f*ck either way who came in or not.
you’ve read racist views on here? Really?
I'll edit the post. You're right doesn't say cornered. Doesn't take away from the point.
You don't believe 25 people started singing a football song?What I don't believe 20/25 people started doing that? You and others posters underlying tone for people that don't follow your world view being racist is boring tiresome and lazy.
You missed “take for granted”!The automatic position of he’s lying is what we all lambasted Celtic fans for doing about Glen Kamara. Trust, listen, educate and or deal with
I've seen similar.Aye it does. 20 mwi schemey types/older guys who see a black guy drinking in a Rangers pub as some sort of novelty because they live a very sheltered life singing this is very believable.
The automatic position of he’s lying is what we all lambasted Celtic fans for doing about Glen Kamara. Trust, listen, educate and or deal with
would have been better if he hadn't been subjected to racist abuse in the first place.Surely would have been better to report it to a steward than go straight to the papers.