20rangersultras07
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Monday
Europa league draw
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20rangersultras07
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want Barca, ain’t been to camp nou.
Zenit wouldn’t be too bad already been to Russia, amazing country
Zenit wouldn’t be too bad already been to Russia, amazing country
Sir Know it All
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I take into account there is still a lot of time to pass and a lot can change but f*ck getting Dortmund and it is restricted attendance,
Want somewhere as many Bears can go as possible before anything else personally.
Want somewhere as many Bears can go as possible before anything else personally.
Zenit would be coming to the end of their winter break though. They won’t have played a game in months.
HeyBert
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Aye it is mate
ssblue
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Also Villarreal 4 points off the relegation zone in Spain.
I was talking relatively.
Certainly preferable to all the others except Sherif and perhaps Zenit.
cochise
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In that case their prize money would be just under 1m more than ours. However, as other posters have said this is ignoring the TV money difference.
To try and put some context on this, the TV money for the next round of EL alone is just under that for the whole Conference knock outs including the final.
The whole “glamour tie/somewhere cool to go but less chance of progression” is something I just don’t get.
Tailwind
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"All". Do you know who is in the conference?
Just noticed Atalanta game isn’t till 6, that’s utter pish.
CambusRanger
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Oh no was John Bomber Brown not the sheriff?
TerrySilverLoyal
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Anybody but Porto villareal
Sick of the sight of them
Sick of the sight of them
Zizou
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Cheers need to book holiday for away leg
HeyBert
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Auchterarder Swifts
Moz
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Damn was looking forward to watching that before our game
Likewise, poor from Uefa.
True Blue Avenger
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The way I see it
Draw either of the German teams and we're as good as out (even allowing for the fact that Leipzig are going through a sticky patch and sacked their manager, I still think they'll be too strong). Dortmund is the nightmare draw out of the lot.
Barcelona or Sevilla - we'd obviously be huge underdogs and likely end of tourney, but you never know and I'd still prefer them over ze Germans.
Porto and Villareal / Atalanta - a solid fighting chance. More than held our own against the first two recently, Atalanta would likely be the trickiest of the 3.
Zenit / Sheriff - Good chance to progress. Zenit no mugs but beatable and we probably start as favourites against Sheriff.
All in all, its a pretty tough draw and odds not in our favour. Progression would be great but it's all just a bonus really, 56 and the associated financial boost (as well as a shot at the real big boys next year) is still the priority.
Draw either of the German teams and we're as good as out (even allowing for the fact that Leipzig are going through a sticky patch and sacked their manager, I still think they'll be too strong). Dortmund is the nightmare draw out of the lot.
Barcelona or Sevilla - we'd obviously be huge underdogs and likely end of tourney, but you never know and I'd still prefer them over ze Germans.
Porto and Villareal / Atalanta - a solid fighting chance. More than held our own against the first two recently, Atalanta would likely be the trickiest of the 3.
Zenit / Sheriff - Good chance to progress. Zenit no mugs but beatable and we probably start as favourites against Sheriff.
All in all, its a pretty tough draw and odds not in our favour. Progression would be great but it's all just a bonus really, 56 and the associated financial boost (as well as a shot at the real big boys next year) is still the priority.
Wazza
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They could well be in great nick to be fair. Jan/Feb in Dubai or something away from the pressures of covid mentally as well which other Clubs players will be dealing with.
In a competition nobody really wants to be in.
GovanFront4
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Hate when it's a Monday draw but it's not so bad this year because we've known for a while where we finish in the group. Loved winning a playoff on the Thursday then still being buzzing in the morning for the draw.
oranje-viola
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Worked well for the Filth last winter of course
They have obviously players who are on a higher level than anything we have - their budget is much bigger - but they have plenty of uninspiring dross and last night apart are a mind-numbingly dull team to watch epitomised by the human bludgeon of Dzyuba up front
Wazza
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Ha, they are a bit better than them mind. Just if you compare it to how many matches the Spanish Clubs will be cramming in around then I would say Zenit will be pretty fresh and they obviously take pride in winning any European Trophy. Do they still get the weekend off before they play in European knockout matches? Sure CSKA got that in 2005.Worked well for the Filth last winter of course
They have obviously players who are on a higher level than anything we have - their budget is much bigger - but they have plenty of uninspiring dross and last night apart are a mind-numbingly dull team to watch epitomised by the human bludgeon of Dzyuba up front
Wazza
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I was hoping you would turn up last night as I was looking at these when watching the match v Chelsea:Worked well for the Filth last winter of course
They have obviously players who are on a higher level than anything we have - their budget is much bigger - but they have plenty of uninspiring dross and last night apart are a mind-numbingly dull team to watch epitomised by the human bludgeon of Dzyuba up front
Zenit St. Petersburg - Change in attendance figures
Die Entwicklung der Besucherzahlen zeigt an, wie sich das Zuschauerinteresse für den Verein Zenit S-Pb im Vergleich der Saisons entwickelt hat.
It is a dramatic rise from 16/17 to 17/18, were tickets really hard to come by before they moved Stadium or did the buzz of a new Stadium just really get more people going? Massive rise that isn't it.
Tailwind
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Yeh, I’d probably go and look at that competition
Might be the “conference” but it’s not Dagenham and Redbridge in there. Spurs, Roma etc.
The Aberdeen of Spain.
GovanFront4
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The old ground was open to the elements which I imagine isn't a nice feeling in a Leningrad winter.I was hoping you would turn up last night as I was looking at these when watching the match v Chelsea:
Zenit St. Petersburg - Change in attendance figures
Die Entwicklung der Besucherzahlen zeigt an, wie sich das Zuschauerinteresse für den Verein Zenit S-Pb im Vergleich der Saisons entwickelt hat.www.transfermarkt.co.uk
It is a dramatic rise from 16/17 to 17/18, were tickets really hard to come by before they moved Stadium or did the buzz of a new Stadium just really get more people going? Massive rise that isn't it.
Wazza
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Huge increase mind isn't it, wondered if maybe ticket prices came down as a result of the move.
oranje-viola
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Moved from the old stadium in the city centre to the new one built for the World Cup 3 times as big ... Massively over-budgeted, not easy to get to for many people and right on the gulf so if it wasn't for the roof would be 'baltic' literally. Maybe had they developed the old city centre ground they would have seen even bigger jump in crowdsI was hoping you would turn up last night as I was looking at these when watching the match v Chelsea:
Zenit St. Petersburg - Change in attendance figures
Die Entwicklung der Besucherzahlen zeigt an, wie sich das Zuschauerinteresse für den Verein Zenit S-Pb im Vergleich der Saisons entwickelt hat.
It is a dramatic rise from 16/17 to 17/18, were tickets really hard to come by before they moved Stadium or did the buzz of a new Stadium just really get more people going? Massive rise that isn't it.
The old stadium was about 20,000 capacity so almost at the max yep. Must have been tight for tickets for every game
Even still, as a one-club city really to only get 45-50,000 for a city of 5.5million is a pretty poor show. I'm guessing their core match going support probably tops out at this level.
You don't really get the feel walking round here that its a football hotbed and they live and breathe their club despite there obviously being plenty here who do feel that way. Not many bars that are out and out football pubs with a clearly Zenit leaning the way we get at home.
ForGodForCountryForever
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Rangers
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Seedaid.
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GovanFront4
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Yeah it is. The attendances suggest they are the biggest club in the country but I'm not sure if that's the case. Would expect the traditional Moscow clubs to be bigger clubs just without the cash.
Wazza
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It has never struck me as a great atmosphere in that Stadium when I have watched, does always seem half empty (which it obviously is). Still a City and Stadium would love to visit.
GovanFront4
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It's only really in this country that 'conference' gives a negative connotation because of a division that doesn't even exist anymore. Weird.
Andrew webb
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Seville would be good
should be ok for tickets and nice city made welcome similar to Porto
Ataturk
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Indeed. When we were drawn against Panathinaikos in 2008 I bet there were loads of dafties wanting Bayern. Reaching the latter stages of European tournaments is much more satisfying than being battered by a big name early on.
Progression uber alles.
GovanFront4
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Have you visited Moscow before? I am determined to visit Russia and heard STP is the better city for having a good time, but Moscow has much more sights that I want to see.
Wazza
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Went to Moscow in 2003 but never saw any Football, went back in 2018 for World Cup - was at Colombia v England at Spartak. The change in the City was amazing, had a good time both occasions. Also went to the Torpedo Moscow Stadium and got a tour, that was interesting to see - it was pulled down last month, green all over but unique Stadium.
Seville would be a good trip. Decent sized ground and more than doable from Faro/Albuifera. I’d imagine the glassy boys would run buses from there again.
oranje-viola
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They are definitely smaller than Spartak in support size - you get Spartak fans all over Russia as well as Dynamo - whilst with Zenit they are probably all in around the city and surrounding region with the usual plastic glory hunters in other places who will jump ship to whatever the latest flavour of the month is.
I guess should Dynamo Moscow actually win something again then they might really take off support wise as theres definitely a dormant widespread support with them as it was they, Spartak and Dynamo Kiev who ruled the roost during Soviet times.
Valleyloyal
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I agree that Dortmund are one to avoid. As stated above, no east tie but Zenit may not be so bad as they may be a little undercooked after their winter break and it would be a chance to avenge the Manchester defeat.
Andrew webb
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fair enough
they lost two of better player s as they got sent off last game
Porto Our fans were welcomed well last time and tickets were easy to obtain 25 euros for home end( no problem getting in) and great city
Couldn’t pay me to go to Russia.
Terrifying.
Then again, there is only a select few countries out with Scotland that I would visit
Valleyloyal
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I wouldn't mind Dortmund in the final.
I‘d love to go. A few of my mates, and my son, still rave about the last time we visited Russia. They said it was an amazing trip.Couldn’t pay me to go to Russia.
Terrifying.
Then again, there is only a select few countries out with Scotland that I would visit
Andrew webb
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it was good last time remember locals taking photos at end of game of our support
brilliant city
Remember also Tom Cruise film was getting made in centre
he also made a appearance at the game and was signing follow follow lol
tom Cruise loyal
