Jordan Campbell on Tav

supersonic

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Really! I have been following Rangers since the 60's and he is by far the worst captain i have seen.

With regard to respect, i would give him that if he worked on his inability to defend.

To my mind, you have no ability to objectively comment, if you can't understand basic football ability.

Poor captain, can't cross a ball, atrocious corners, caught out against better quality teams
Tav makes say 1 or 2 errors a season. When else is he "poor defensively"?

Also how does a guy who cant cross a ball rack up so many assists stats? Pure luck? He has had good and bad performances in big games. Like every player. Its mental how upset folk get with him.
 

NDC bear forever

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Really! I have been following Rangers since the 60's and he is by far the worst captain i have seen.

With regard to respect, i would give him that if he worked on his inability to defend.

To my mind, you have no ability to objectively comment, if you can't understand basic football ability.

Poor captain, can't cross a ball, atrocious corners, caught out against better quality teams
I don’t mind people not rating him - you are wrong in my opinion, but ultimately football is a game of opinions. What is annoying is when people come out with blatant pish like “caught out against better quality teams” and “his inability to defend”.

Tav hasn’t had a tough time vs a Celtic winger since Gerrard came in bar the 1-0 game in September 2018. He also shows up vs better teams in Europe and never actually gets “rinsed” by a winger. He is also part of a defence that has yet to concede this season. You are judging him on the Tav of 16/17 which is just unfair when he has came on leaps and bounds since then.
 

NDC bear forever

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You can tell those who hate Tav are absolutely choking for him to make a defensive error so they can say they were right.
It is a genuine obsession with some mate. Seen a tweet literally seconds after his goal vs Hamilton along the lines of “aye well that is the crosses Tav has mishit being covered again”.

As I say a genuine obsession with disliking a Rangers player. Gets more stick off our own than some give Tarriers FFS.
 

supersonic

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I don’t mind people not rating him - you are wrong in my opinion, but ultimately football is a game of opinions. What is annoying is when people come out with blatant pish like “caught out against better quality teams” and “his inability to defend”.

Tav hasn’t had a tough time vs a Celtic winger since Gerrard came in bar the 1-0 game in September 2018. He also shows up vs better teams in Europe and never actually gets “rinsed” by a winger. He is also part of a defence that has yet to concede this season. You are judging him on the Tav of 16/17 which is just unfair when he has fame on leaps and bounds since then.
There are certain fans who decide something and never go back on it. They cant comprehend that players develop and overcome earlier downfalls.
 

SCG

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Tav makes say 1 or 2 errors a season. When else is he "poor defensively"?

Also how does a guy who cant cross a ball rack up so many assists stats? Pure luck? He has had good and bad performances in big games. Like every player. Its mental how upset folk get with him.

He is poor defensively when it matters..are you so blind you can't see?
 

Balogun1

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I think the thing that’s missing is a trophy. Until that people will say never a capt.

Can’t underestimate a senior pro looking after teammates.

that said sometimes I’d live to see him, as the capt, smash into someone who has halved on of our players and create a weir style bust up
Whilst I get you, in our jersey, he would get a red card and be criticised to death on here.
 

SCG

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I don’t mind people not rating him - you are wrong in my opinion, but ultimately football is a game of opinions. What is annoying is when people come out with blatant pish like “caught out against better quality teams” and “his inability to defend”.

Tav hasn’t had a tough time vs a Celtic winger since Gerrard came in bar the 1-0 game in September 2018. He also shows up vs better teams in Europe and never actually gets “rinsed” by a winger. He is also part of a defence that has yet to concede this season. You are judging him on the Tav of 16/17 which is just unfair when he has came on leaps and bounds since then.

He has cost us regularly against better quality teams. Hi quality of crossing/corners is awful.
 

Bulletproof

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He is poor defensively when it matters..are you so blind you can't see?
I agree with you but will happily eat my words once he consistently does it in our bigger games. I would be interested to know if he has had a brilliant match in our tougher games. They go on about his stats but that figures are skewed by our time in the championship.
 

tazzabear

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Really! I have been following Rangers since the 60's and he is by far the worst captain i have seen.

With regard to respect, i would give him that if he worked on his inability to defend.

To my mind, you have no ability to objectively comment, if you can't understand basic football ability.

Poor captain, can't cross a ball, atrocious corners, caught out against better quality teams
Sixties, eh?
You‘d place Tavernier behind Dawson, McLelland, Patterson?
Defend?
Can you not accept that Gerrard and his team know better?
My understanding of football is something you are not qualified to comment on, giving that you don’t know me or my background, either way, for what it’s worth.
Would it matter anyway?
You refuse to accept the accomplished footballer and captain we have as our manager might know better than you.
This in itself rules out your lines about attacking and defending.
Tell me though, who are these better quality teams he gets caught out by?
Legia? Feyenoord? Porto? Young Boys? Braga?
These were the five best teams we played last season before we faced the only team who were genuinely better quality.
I cannot recall Tavernier being embarrassed in any game against them.
Yes he made mistakes but, who didn’t?
 
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tazzabear

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To an extent yes but slur would imply slagging him for the sake of it, because he has had no real competition I do think he has at least a bit of complacency, I also think we now see that Candeias was very under rated and made JT a far better player.
There is no doubt Candeias style supported Tavernier’s game.
 
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tazzabear

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I agree with you but will happily eat my words once he consistently does it in our bigger games. I would be interested to know if he has had a brilliant match in our tougher games. They go on about his stats but that figures are skewed by our time in the championship.
Did you not watch our bigger games last season.
I can recall only one major error, that in the YB away game.
Please remember, there is a major difference between as error, like in that YB game, and being outskilled, like against Leverkusen.
 

Bulletproof

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Did you not watch our bigger games last season.
I can recall only one major error, that in the YB away game.
Please remember, there is a major difference between as error, like in that YB game, and being outskilled, like against Leverkusen.
Yeah I watched most if not all of the games and "f##k sake Tav seemed to be commonly used on here during match threads. Tav is just a player that splits opinion. I would like nothing more than to be proven wrong. We will see come May.
 

BonessBear90

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Gerrard is happy with him as captain, players are happy with him as captain, ex players say he was a good captain, some fans think he is a terrible captain...... everyone entitled to an opinion, however I think he is a good captain. You dont need to be a shouter, hatchet man etc to be a captain, someone said earlier about who would you rather be captain of our club; tavernier or scott brown? For some on here it must be a tough decision
 

Bigbluebear

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Really! I have been following Rangers since the 60's and he is by far the worst captain i have seen.

With regard to respect, i would give him that if he worked on his inability to defend.

To my mind, you have no ability to objectively comment, if you can't understand basic football ability.

Poor captain, can't cross a ball, atrocious corners, caught out against better quality teams

This post is a quality oxymoron

Well played
 

mathers1

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I think anyone watching the all or nothing Spurs documentary on Amazon will see there’s no archetype when it comes to a captain. Even Lloris & Kane are different compared to each other & none strike me as the stereotypical “captain”.

Nobody in this thread knows what Tav is like in the dressing room before a game & nobody knows what he’s like on the training ground, but clearly Gerrard sees him as a model professional & good influence.

He wouldn’t have been my first choice initially but I don’t think anyone in our entire team fits the mould of stereotypical captain.
 

GLAGAZ

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Really! I have been following Rangers since the 60's and he is by far the worst captain i have seen.

With regard to respect, i would give him that if he worked on his inability to defend.

To my mind, you have no ability to objectively comment, if you can't understand basic football ability.

Poor captain, can't cross a ball, atrocious corners, caught out against better quality teams

Wow :eek:
 

NDC bear forever

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I agree with you but will happily eat my words once he consistently does it in our bigger games. I would be interested to know if he has had a brilliant match in our tougher games. They go on about his stats but that figures are skewed by our time in the championship.
Tav’s numbers are fantastic in the premiership but I agree with the championship part
 

NDC bear forever

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He has cost us regularly against better quality teams. Hi quality of crossing/corners is awful.
Young Boys I’ll give you. I guess I’ll even give you the Celtic game in March 2019 although some may argue that was a slack pass rather than defensive error, A struggle for me to think of anymore in recent times.
 

Mr Wilton

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Is there much difference between Tav as Captain and Wallace? They’re both quieter players, not shouting every 2 min at players, lead by example on the pitch. Wallace largely played against poorer competition, but I don’t remember the same issues with him as we do Tav.
 

Scarlett

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You can tell those who hate Tav are absolutely choking for him to make a defensive error so they can say they were right.
This. Its pathetic and quite honestly embarrassing.
Having an opinion on our players is one thing, but the language used towards our Club Captain is horrendous. It should be a ban on here.
I can't wait to see Tav lift that league trophy.
 

Scarlett

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Really! I have been following Rangers since the 60's and he is by far the worst captain i have seen.

With regard to respect, i would give him that if he worked on his inability to defend.

To my mind, you have no ability to objectively comment, if you can't understand basic football ability.

Poor captain, can't cross a ball, atrocious corners, caught out against better quality teams
We have a new leader in the Stupid Post Of The Day competition, and it's a strong entry!

I was taught to be polite to my elders, but.... Get this so far to fcuk.

There's an opinion, and there's spouting shite... And this stinks.

Embarrassing.
 

Deekw72

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I personally think our own fans abuse tav more than the tarriers do. Yes he has flaws, but every modern day full back does.
 

TinyRick

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But he does make too many costly mistakes though along with vice captain goldson
 

Methilbear

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Gerrard is happy with him as captain, players are happy with him as captain, ex players say he was a good captain, some fans think he is a terrible captain...... everyone entitled to an opinion, however I think he is a good captain. You dont need to be a shouter, hatchet man etc to be a captain, someone said earlier about who would you rather be captain of our club; tavernier or scott brown? For some on here it must be a tough decision
As much as it pains me the answer is obviously Brown. Christ i was in Tenerife last year and someone was trying to tell the goalie that Brown was pish, Goram ripped the guy.
 

tazzabear

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I personally think our own fans abuse tav more than the tarriers do. Yes he has flaws, but every modern day full back does.
Tavernier’s problem here is, and this applies to Goldson as well, is that he wants to build the next attack.
Look at his two most noted errors last season, against Celtic and against Young Boys.
On both occasions, the correct and safest option he had was to put the ball in the stand.
However, on both occasions he, wrongly, tried a pass that was difficult at best and it cost us.
In a more advanced area, players are being asked to take a chance with a difficult pass, take responsibility.
Tavernier did this and, and I stress it was the wrong area of the park to be doing it in, we’ve suffered because of it.
Goldson is in the same boat.
On Sunday, on trying to build the next attack, he tried an overly cute pass into midfield and it was poorly executed, falling to a Hibs player.
Despite him doing this a ton of times this season, it was the wrong option and the wrong time to try it.
It went wrong and we’ve suffered.
 
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Bangersbc

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He has a large fan club on here, I think he shone in the championship and also benefited massively from Candeias being the player he was and now plays within himself on the back of all that.

Breaking news: Rangers captain of several years has large fan club on Rangers forum!

Reports are coming in that James Tavernier is inexplicably appreciated by a portion of the Rangers support. The right back, purchased for a snip at £250k, may have broken records for goals and assists for a defender, but properly 'staunch' fans know this means nothing because of stupid reasons known only to themselves.

Well known member BangersBC stated "... What the feck are you on about?!? Its a Rangers fans forum. Of course there is a big Tav fan club if you aren't a supporter of our ever-present club captain... You have clearly not been a supporter of the club since 2012 if ever. Every fan of Rangers should be a fan of Tav. No player is perfect, but all Rangers fans must surely wish nothing but good will to our own players, let alone our club captain and last remaining player who was with us in the lower leagues."
 
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