bluetonic
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Butcher was the the England captainTerry Butcher was appointed captain not long after joining us,I'm not saying Hagi should be appointed captain but Butcher hardly earned the captaincy.
Butcher was the the England captainTerry Butcher was appointed captain not long after joining us,I'm not saying Hagi should be appointed captain but Butcher hardly earned the captaincy.
Butcher was signed to be the captain of the team Souness was building.Terry Butcher was appointed captain not long after joining us,I'm not saying Hagi should be appointed captain but Butcher hardly earned the captaincy.
I’m far from convinced with Hagi the lad certainly has ability but we didn’t see enough of him to convince me . Captain? Let’s wait and see.
Hagi showed no heart?Please no. Please. We need a captain who has heart. Doesn't need to be the greatest player but must be fearless.
He had also grown up in and around the 9IAR teamNot for me, the comparison with Barry Ferguson does not hold up, Barry was young yes but had experienced players around him that had won trophy’s, unfortunately we don’t
And mine.Ryan Jack would be my Captain every day of the week.
I find your argument compelling, but I am still reluctant to agree.Cus D'Amato said that boxing was 75% mental and emotional and 25% physical. He said if a boxer was 100% physically perfect but weak mentality a guy who was weaker physically but stronger mentality would beat him every time. He trained all his fighters to understand fear, that is to say in moments of intense pressure we must use fear as an energy to feed us and not allow ourselves to be controlled by it.
I think the philosophy of Cus is equally true of any sport and indeed of life. I think there are some people when confronted with that fear, that pressure, rise to the occasion and use it to lift them to their highest and greatest potential. These are the special ones that rise to the top because they are able to not only function effectively under high pressure but to feed off it and become better because of it.
Barry Ferguson as a kid had this. This is why Dick made him captain. I believe that Hagi has it it too. He refuses to wilt and makes no excuses to lose. He has an immense drive, a desire to win, he has this spark that becomes a roaringly blaze as Cus put it, to rise to the occasion and he can be an example to all around him. He is hungry and he has massive talent.
Watch that Braga match again, you telling me that wasn't a captains performance? I think so and I think he should be made captain. I think it would be a master stroke by SG to make him captain. Let's be honest for two years in a row it hasn't worked with Tav as captain and if rumours from January were true he was very close to leaving anyway. So let's start anew. A new captain.
I'll get stick I know but I've big broad shoulders and thick skin I can take it
Btw while I'm here. We should sell Glen Kamara and buy Paddy McNair and Lovro Majer.
I'll go back to my beer now
Cheers.
Unless that’s a real top drawer player & leader , would be best to have someone who already knows the club and players.I’m hoping our captain for next season is still to be signed.
I don't think we have signed our captain yet.Agreed. The fact this thread has legs suggests there's not actually a stand out leader or that we have too many leaders making the choice difficult.
And there lies a huge difference.Butcher was the the England captain
Butcher Vs Hagi there us simply no comparison in regards captaincyTerry Butcher was appointed captain not long after joining us,I'm not saying Hagi should be appointed captain but Butcher hardly earned the captaincy.
And he knows what it means to play for the club , we saw that after last seasons cup final.Genuinely believe he is the only one in our team that has the qualities to be captain.
He has that nasty side to him and desire to fight for every ball and backs up his team mates. Grafts and covers tav constantly in our system.
Honestly dont think there is another player in our team with those qualities.
I agree so why is tav our captain.Armbands have to be earned, not gifted.
Maybe one day, but it isn't now.
I didn't say Hagi should be captain!!.Butcher Vs Hagi there us simply no comparison in regards captaincy
He is at Boro .Is McNair at Boro?
Whats his contract situation?
Different times , different circumstances , Souness signed the England captain with the sole intent of making him captain and building his team around him.I didn't say Hagi should be captain!!.
I know there's no comparison but someone said the Rangers captaincy should be earned and not handed to them which Graeme Souness did when he signed Terry Butcher.
I didn't say Hagi should be captain!!.
I know there's no comparison but someone said the Rangers captaincy should be earned and not handed to them which Graeme Souness did when he signed Terry Butcher.
And Butcher was the perfect example of that point.I don't think you have to earn it at the club.
Surely if someone has demonstrated the qualities of a good captain elsewhere then that may be part of the reason to get them and give them the armband straight away.
We are paying that money for him to sit on the bench mate.Don't see how you can make him captain when he isn't a certainty to start every week.
I think it would make him better. He's very strong mentality. Making him captain wouldn't be something new to him he's been captain most of his life probably.I find your argument compelling, but I am still reluctant to agree.
The Braga match is true, he was inspirational that night, it was a wonderful performance.
However, I never noticed the same in other matches against lesser opposition.
However, maybe you are seeing what I am missing.
As I say, you make a good case.
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome is a special kind of madness.What an odd suggestion
I don't see him playing 90 mins every week.We are paying that money for him to sit on the bench mate.
Firstly I agree about being earned but no way has Tav earned it,anything but in fact. Terrible captain choice in my opinion.Armbands have to be earned, not gifted.
Maybe one day, but it isn't now.
We don't have a Butcher or Gough, we need to look forward not back. He was captain of his club when he was 17. It's not such a radical idea to him. He's a leader.I don't see him playing 90 mins every week.
I would prefer my captain to be in the mould of a Butcher/ Gough.
Too right we don't have a Butcher/ Gough type player.We don't have a Butcher or Gough, we need to look forward not back. He was captain of his club when he was 17. It's not such a radical idea to him. He's a leader.
And me.It’s a no from me.
He hasn’t even signed yet and has only played a handful of games and he’s our saviour? Mental. Heed the lesson with Kent who looked great on loan, less so since he signed.
those posters praising him just now will be the same ones on his back if he has a few bad games. We’ve seen that over and over with other players.
Totally agree and I understand why Souness signed Terry Butcher and him captain as he was a colossal signing for us.A player should in general earn a captaincy at a club like Rangers but in his case he was right to be an exception.Different times , different circumstances , Souness signed the England captain with the sole intent of making him captain and building his team around him.
But your point is valid , in that particular instance it was not earned.
Kent has never been a captain has grew up as captain. Hagi didn't say he likes Europe cause it's less pressure. Hagi wants the pressure. Big difference in mentality.I was thinking the very same about Kent, I'm trying to remember if there were calls to give him the captaincy as well.
Exactly how I would summarise.Totally agree and I understand why Souness signed Terry Butcher and him captain as he was a colossal signing for us.A player should in general earn a captaincy at a club like Rangers but in his case he was right to be an exception.
Kent has never been a captain has grew up as captain. Hagi didn't say he likes Europe cause it's less pressure. Hagi wants the pressure. Big difference in mentality.