They'll make stuff up.Wonder if any of the gutter tabloids have us “in disarray” over this.
He was punted plain and simple.
They'll make stuff up.Wonder if any of the gutter tabloids have us “in disarray” over this.
what do you mean? if Allen's remit was to get rid of Pedro's duds and other shite players on high wages signed before his time then they should also share the blame. Dorrans, Pena & Herrera on reportedly 20k+ a week? The board also sanctioned Pedro in the first place - they can't exactly sack themselves however they wasted £10-15m pounds of their own (the club's) money. Not to mention wasting a whole season of fan's time + utter PR embarrassment with such a ridiculous appointment.
Posters who genuinely are ITK say that SR does a good job on the accountancy side.
You criticised the board for 'sanctioning some horror show signings'. Do you or do you not want them to overrule a recommendation from the football management regarding a player?
Your post above is just hot air, letting off steam and ultimately pointless given that we need men prepared to put funds into the club. They've made an arse of some things, no argument, but backing those responsible for football decisions is not one of them.
To be fair, Gerrard left a great life in LA. This was seemingly to fulfill his ambition to manage Liverpool, and is currently using us as a stepping stone for that. Perhaps Reyna would see us as a good stepping stone to a big Man City job. I doubt they'd take him from New York directly. However, if I was him I'd stay in New York and enjoy my life... but I don't know his ambitions. He has stated he loved being at Rangers though.Leave the big apple and usa to come to live in say bearsden.
Get verbal at every corner from the tims and some of our fans if not going well.
Cant see it myself.
You may have noticed my previous posts about the need for a CEO?I’ve heard that, but an MD needs to be more than just a good accountant.
You may have noticed my previous posts about the need for a CEO?
Am I not allowed to speculate?
At the risk of repeating myself I'll say it again. I have no inside knowledge about MA. Ive never met the man and dont know anyone who has. My problem with him was the things he said at his interviews. It sounded like bullshit to me then and it still does. Im sick of Rangers employing chancers.
Incidentally, I dont like Corbyn. Ive never met him or anyone that knows him. My only info comes from the things he says. Its speculation. Im assuming you object to that.
We all have our targets. Recycling has been dreadful. When did we last take a fee for someone? Windass?
I did mate, and I agree.
Can we afford to pay him off though?
Probably not.
The right appointment in the DOF role and it isn’t about money. It is about spending what you have wisely.
They bought Julian for £7m we bought Hellander fir £3.5m. If Hellander is a better player we narrow the gap for half the price.
This role is crucial in our development. Absolutely crucial. We need a really good appointment here.
How is Allen leaving Rangers not sticking to a process? If Tesco fire a store manager, does it necessarily follow that he was fired because the plan to implement the over-all strategy was wrong? Of course not. It is FAR more likely to indicate that the store manager was failing to deliver the plan correctly.
I am not saying it succeeded or failed at all. I have specifically said on numerous occasions that I simply do not have the information to make that call. YOU are saying that Allen going is a vindication of your entrenched position. It is so obviously not a vindication that it really should not have to be pointed out at all.
I am not choosing to believe it failed in a certain way at all, that is a simple lie. I am very deliberately NOT choosing to believe it failed in a certain way. I am not choosing to believe it failed in any way at all. I am stating the bloody obvious by saying that the lack of information you bemoan means you are not even close to being in a position to declare the whole thing a failure and that Allen going for any number of reasons, such as being asked to leave or landing a job with another club are FAR more likely than the board just ripping up the whole process. You are too blinded by what you WANT to be the truth that you are tying yourself in knots trying to make all the pieces fit and you are missing the most obvious answer.
You are going round in circles on this. It's very simple if we replace MA with another DOF I am wrong-the club have stuck to the strategy. I suspect though if we do how his role is defined will be changed although there's a very likely probability we will never know that type of detail.
I'm not tying myself in knots I said at the time we didn't need a DOF and it's clear how the role was set up ran into issues with a very strong leader like SG.
But you carry on I think we've done this.
oki dokiKamara in a few months is now 100 times more than we bought him for.
And he has been rank this season.
Barisic - a right back who came for nothing gets a game in front of him and he s doubled his transfer fee.
Arfield in his 30s.
You either know nothing about football or your at the wind up.
so is the amount of squabblingThe constant under valuing players of ours on here is baffling
I have said the same thing over and over. There are no knots other than the ones you are tying in trying to prove a point. I am simply stating that I do not know why he left, but that it might be a change of direction (my very first post) or it might be down to Allen specifically. That standpoint has not changed one single bit on this thread and remains my singular point. You are so determined to be right that you are throwing all sorts of other things that you think I am saying. That is it. That is ALL I am saying.
the bit in bold is where your issue on this thread lies.
You said right at the start it was the wrong move and now you are desperately trying to make this story fit with that. It is so transparent that it has been said to you on here by a decent number of people now. Your last post did nothing other than prove the point to everyone: You said something ages ago, ergo what is happening now MUST be because of that. Ignore the facts, ignore the gaps in your knowledge, just perform backflips trying to make it fit.
I feel that SR is favoured by King, I therefore believe any move would be sideways, not out. So, although we'd have the CEO oncost we wouldn't have the SR redundancy.
This news doesn't displease me.
I've not read anything about it yet, but I imagine we'll give him a good write up and say how great he is.
The reality is very different, however.
Ask Commentator on this. I have consistently questioned the football strategy-it wasn't something I said ages ago.
The facts are he's left I would say in general he hasn't done that great a job-the facts suggest he and SG both recruited players and that's clearly problematic. Your obsession with me is a little unhealthy I would suggest you note the other opinions on MA from others who have said much the same as I have-it's in the public domain. Maybe it's all lies you decide.
My focus on this is in relation to the football and precisely the signing strategy I hope I'm badly wrong and we are not hurt by the gaps in the squad or the route we've taken. It's still very early on in the league but I would argue the MA/SG relationship or roles if you like has led us into this.
Enough I have a team to go and support.
Then why the positive write-up?
Then why the positive write-up?
It happens all the time. One of the directors in my work got the elbow a month or so back. He did so because he was not thought to be adding anything like the value expected. I know that to be a fact.
If you’d listened to the CEO’s glowing tribute however you’d never have thunk it.
Good overall point but Grezda never played against us.The biggest stinker for money is Grezda, 2 million and I fail to believe we scouted him. A couple of decent matches against us and we splashed out. A mistake that’s still costing us and we won’t be getting any money for him. With wages it’s a6-7 percent of our turnover. Apart from Jack, Tavernier, Katic kamara and Morelos...who are we making decent money from? Kent maybe, but remains to be seen. I’ve left out this years crop as we cant really comment yet.
If Allen, as some well known posters are inferring, was a bit of a charlatan then my one big concern is that King, Robertson and The Board lack a feel for football.
I would cite: Pedro, Del-boy, Mark Allen and leaving Murthy in situ for too long.
I’m not saying they don’t love the club, and I am sure they are gifted businessmen acting in our best interests. Some have been very generous and others will be fiscally prudent.
But they can’t cut and paste their corporate recruitment strategies to a very unique business.
They are not instinctive football people though. They seem to either get dazzled or make cautious choices.
They look for articulate, cerebral types because that’s their own collective wheelhouse.
I don’t think this board would have chosen Walter when Souness left.
If your speculation is based on no visible or hard evidence then it’s worthless. I could speculate that Gary McAllister is actually the guy who calls all the shots tactically, of course there’s no evidence to suggest this is the case, so why bother really? You’ve ducked my question for a third time now, so I’ll take that as you realising your logic would mean that Gerrard is also due the same criticism but you don’t want to give him that criticism because you like him.
Incidentally at today's demo in George Square I spoke to an ITK person who informed me that MA was called to a meeting on thursday evening where he was told that his performance was not as expected and he would be getting supervised more closely. MA didnt react well to this and this resulted in him leaving. Make of that what you will.
We need a DOF to ensure that there will be some continuity after Gerrard. We can’t forget that whilst it’s great to have Beale et al in the coaching team, it is a huge risk, because they are all more loyal to Gerrard than the club. We can’t have a mass exodus with no plan as to how to replace each of those individuals.
I think they crawl out to say “I told you so” when their constant negativity about everything proves correct now and again.I'm no sure if it's cause I'm pished or no, seems to be a lot of fuds on the site tonight
So there will be a new dof coming and and we are going to stick with the model?It’s pointless coming out and listing the reasons because it’ll only get me more criticism, especially on here & I’ve seen people destroyed for daring to go against the grain with him
I’ll stick to my opinion however because it is led, I’m glad he’s gone & I hope we recruit properly to replace him
He’s off to his next job & won’t give a %^*& about Rangers, largely like his time here
Gerrard is british, totally diferent.To be fair, Gerrard left a great life in LA. This was seemingly to fulfill his ambition to manage Liverpool, and is currently using us as a stepping stone for that. Perhaps Reyna would see us as a good stepping stone to a big Man City job. I doubt they'd take him from New York directly. However, if I was him I'd stay in New York and enjoy my life... but I don't know his ambitions. He has stated he loved being at Rangers though.
ship sailed. Head of recruitment at RB Leipzigwe should go for the guy who used to be tottenhams dof he was interested at the time and his track record was superb cant mind his name nut id make him the priority
Was he though?
There are rumours the board weren’t happy with his performance - the glowing press release doesn’t tell us much in all honesty - just as there have been persistent rumours right from the start that he’s a difficult character.
If I was to take a guess, and this isn’t based on anything other than my gut feeling, Gerrard was too big a personality for Mark Allen and there have been clashes between the two with regards to how we’re implementing strategy.
Which isn’t to say there’s been any big rammies, more a difference of opinion that happens at all big organisations at upper management and executive level.
I suspect we may now look for someone Gerrard knows to fill the position and I think we’ll be all the better for it.
Some are telling us that Gerrard and Allen didn’t get on, it wasn’t working, there was ‘tension’ and that the statement from the Club yesterday, including comments from Gerrard, was just platitudes.
And yet Gerrard has come our with this effusive praise of Allen again today. I’m not sensing this rumoured bad feeling and tension from these comments, quite the opposite in fact.
Steven Gerrard says he will play a role in finding a replacement for departed director of football Mark Allen .
The Rangers boss addressed the departure of Allen after watching his side beat Livingston 3-1 and insists he was eager for the Welshman to stay.
Allen played a pivotal role in the Ibrox side’s on-field rebuilding but left for family reasons after 27 months at the club.
Gerrard said: “It doesn’t change things for me in terms of my role and the day to day stuff. Of course there is a void there at the moment.
“Mark has been brilliant for me, he has given me incredible support. He sold the job for me, not that it needed selling. He was the one who came and got me so I appreciate the opportunity from him.
“But I totally respect and understand his decision, he has been away from his family for two years. He came in at a time at this club when it needed shaking up, he was the one who shook it up and get it to the point it is at now.
“I would have wanted him to stay around a bit longer to be honest of course but everyone has their time and Mark has decided he wants to go back to his family, I respect that.
"In terms of whether the club put similar type person in that role and how long that is going to take, they are questions you will probably have to ask the board. Will I be involved in the process? Probably.
Gerrard admits there’s no timeframe on bringing in Allen’s successor but he believes they’ll be big shoes to fill.
He said: “I’m not in any rush, the club need to decide whether they want a technical director in and if the right person is out there. If they can find the right person, that is the main thing.
"There is no point filling it with just someone because I am sure there will be a queue for it. It has to be the right person, someone that compliments everything and all the hard work Mark has done. From where it was when he walked in the door to where it is now, he has done a hell of a job.
“He will always be my friend, and I enjoyed working with him. I have only good words to say about him.
“If you look at where the squad was and the team was to where it is now, I think he has completed the mission the club asked him to do. We all have to respect his decision, that’s the way it is.”
They need all the help they can get.Man U family
If Allen, as some well known posters are inferring, was a bit of a charlatan then my one big concern is that King, Robertson and The Board lack a feel for football.
I would cite: Pedro, Del-boy, Mark Allen and leaving Murty in situ for too long.
I’m not saying they don’t love the club, and I am sure they are gifted businessmen acting in our best interests. Some have been very generous and others will be fiscally prudent.
But they can’t cut and paste their corporate recruitment strategies to a very unique business.
They are not instinctive football people though. They seem to either get dazzled or make cautious choices.
They look for articulate, cerebral types because that’s their own collective wheelhouse.
I don’t think this board would have chosen Walter when Souness left.