He has been at Aberdeen 5 years and knows the Scottish game, hopefully he brings in Moult and others in Jan, boosts the squad and cut the gap on the poets.
Ok he is not the man I hoped we would get, I was hoping for Allardyce but we couldn't afford him and that ship has sailed
One of us is a nice to have - shouldnt be #1 on the list.He is one of us.
He will give us everything he can.
See what develops under him.
Would I have liked a better organised club under which he wouldnt have got a look in, yes.
I don’t think anyone is questioning the board about their personal business nous, but running a football team like Rangers is not like running a normal P&L business. Some fans are challenging whether or not their ability to understand what is right from a footballing and “getting back to our rightful place” perspective is as sharp as it needs to be. I know what I like to eat, but I’d be fucked if I’d trust myself to cook it. Everyone is grateful for what they did and always will be. I have seen nothing negative in that regard. As for their investment, the club is massively under valued because of where we currently are around being credibly in Europe. Their money is very safe and they know it, they are business men as well as fans.I find a lot of the comments on here ridiculous particularly about our Board. The main RIFC Board who are the final decision makers are all successful business men in their own right. They have rescued our Club from the position where we were dying without salvation. They have put in millions of their hard earned cash in to the Club's bank account with little or no chance of them getting it back just to keep us going before and after getting rid of Whyte, Green Ashley et al.
They have taken their time with this appointment quite rightly and without any doubt will have taken advice from seasoned football professionals and Bluenoses like Walter. I have looked roughly 20 times every day at FF and there have been virtually no sensible, informed suggestions about who we should get as Manager. They have looked far and wide and invited applications in case they were overlooking someone.
Perhaps someone could tell us how else they might actually have gone about it. They want a successful Club on and if the park at least as much as and probably more than most as shown by their financial commitment. We should forever be grateful to them.
WATP
I totally agree. This thing about doing well at Aberdeen gets to me. Someone had to be second when we were out of the league. Were they really that good though? He had them ahead of the scum by something like 7 points a couple of seasons back and they went into free fall and couldn't hack the pressure of such a lead. One win over Inverness in the League Cup (on pens after a no-score draw) isn't terribly impressive to me. I just don't think we have any other viable options as we seem brassic and it seems there's no prospect of any serious input of cash on the horizon. It's utterly depressing that this is the best we seem able to aim for. My only crumb of comfort is I felt exactly the same way in early 1986 and things changed rapidly, not that I can see a Souness like manager landing any time soon. We can but hope things work out for the good.
Yes, when he was appointed manager he was a Rangers fan.
Still is but that wasn't the point being made.
The main "For" is that he is significantly better than our last managers.
Do we really want to be established as the "second force"? This appointment reeks of that.
Great post mate.I don’t think anyone is questioning the board about their personal business nous, but running a football team like Rangers is not like running a normal P&L business. Some fans are challenging whether or not their ability to understand what is right from a footballing and “getting back to our rightful place” perspective is as sharp as it needs to be. I know what I like to eat, but I’d be fucked if I’d trust myself to cook it. Everyone is grateful for what they did and always will be. I have seen nothing negative in that regard. As for their investment, the club is massively under valued because of where we currently are around being credibly in Europe. Their money is very safe and they know it, they are business men as well as fans.
You say they have looked far and wide? Have they? Where has there been any suggestion of this? Maybe once the dust has settled and McInnes is in place, we will hear from them as to why it was felt necessary to wait 6 weeks.
I think that everyone on here is prepared to accept and will support McInnes from the get go. But this process has only enhanced the perception that the board have a low level of Football ownership nous. Maybe they need to employ a better CEO/MD to manage expectations better.
Agree with you make .reeks of a board happy to accept second.It's a lazy, uninspiring, unimaginative, parochial appointment.
Questions have to be asked of this board and how far they can take this club with such low levels of investment which just keep us 'ticking over'. This can't go on much longer. mentally challengeds will continue to sweep the boards - and then where will the fan's patience be ??!
Espanyolification has landed.
no mate we don,t but as you say it reeks of a board willing to accept second.Do we really want to be established as the "second force"? This appointment reeks of that.
I'd agree, think that's a fair summaryFor
Decent win rate at Aberdeen; had them as 'second force' albeit mainly without us in league; knows club and played for us; is young enough to learn; is maybe right man for where we are now - behind schedule in where we want to be. Maybe he can establish us as 'second force' and banish the banter years for good; is available and would come.
Against
Win rate lower than Warburton; one trophy in whole time we were on 'the journey'; no track record re youth development; poor European qualifying (we can talk, ha!); dubious mentally challenged back room team; HUGE outlay for us to get his services; not very exciting brand of football; failed at last 'big job' although club was badly run it seems; sent to bitch school by our U20 coach.
My assumption is that the board feel he can get us where they feel we should already be, i.e. he is to undo the problems created by late period MW and all of Pedro. I'm not very enthused (am I ever?) but can see some sense in it...sobering that we couldn't get a single affordable option in 6 weeks. We are very much at a low ebb in terms of budgets and maybe it's time for me and others to realign our ambition, temporarily at least.
What do you think?
Second is the highest place looser mate.nothing more than that.Agreed. The level of ambition we are showing is simply to battle to be 2nd in Scotland. Which we all know is nothing.
Sad times.
Your correct mate it is conjecture only time will tell.That's just conjecture, don't digest that that will be fact.
I just don't think he has the track record to do anything that will change things - it's like PLG and Pedro - and look what happened there.
lol.................For:
He will win us more games than we've had since Smith left the Club (aside from Ally's fiasco in the Sunday leagues of course).
We will no longer be bullied, outfought or out-muscled as we were under McCoist, Warburton and PC.
Walter told Pedro that at Rangers you have to find a way to win. Doesn't matter how you do it, JUST WIN!
Pedro never listened.
McInnes will find a way.
I must admit to hoping that the backroom staff issue and compensation required kill this ill fated hire in its tracks.
The reality is that the cons far outweigh the pros where DM is concerned and at 46 I don’t think DM is going to blossom into the progressive, developmental, big game winning manager required by Rangers at this juncture.
Sadly this smacks of the Dave Kings lack of imagination and creativity not to mention his abandonment of his DOF’s strategy for the club in favour of a plodding second place behind Celtc. Murty bought them time last week to have a proper rethink about the rest of the season and perhaps waiting until a more suitable candidate became available.
Morale was high and the team seems to be gelling, how will the players react to a guy who was totally out coached by Murty and who’s big match record is in general pretty dire? Will they see McInnes as a guy who can inspire them to beat Celtc, because even if he delivers wins against the cannon fodder it means nothing if we don’t win the big games.
How could they have watched McInnes unravel under the pressure of not even having been officially approached re the job.In fact he and his team became diminished at the mere speculation that he might be a candidate and given the pressure of being Rangers manager immediately make an official approach.
Horrendous decision making, if he lacks many of the qualities laid out by the DOF, fails in big games and cracks under pressure. How in the name of the wee man is a good fit for a job which requires the antithesis?
Another huge gamble from a board who haven’t really got another huge gamble left in them.
Do you never get sick of being so negative. Ffs, we know this isn’t the dream appointment that was going to win us the champions league in the dream world but do you need to keep bringing everyone downLast throw of the dice from King as Chairman IMO. He needs this to work.
Win rate lower than Warburton? You're not comparing two Rangers managers stats here.
That's like me saying I've had more success with the ladies than Gok Wan ( which is probably not true anyway ).
You can't compare win stats between the two. Warburton also managed a season in the Championship, so his winrate isn't really relevant.