No further action on the morelos challenge

Coplandbear

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Scandalous decision but not surprising I'm sorry to say.

As for our fucking board they should be fucking ashamed of themselves for there continued silence.

So much for taking the SPFL to task then of course they shat it and now we are getting our players targeted and now deliberately injured whilst several referees in this country are doing there damn best to stop us at any costs.
 
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Steve Snedden

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Realistically we will have to be about 15-20 points better than the scum to win it by a point.

Tough ask.

I've never actually thought about it in those terms before.

I accepted that we would have to be considerably better than them to outweigh the decisions that we won't get and they will.

But when you put it like that it's pretty stark and very alarming and probably about right.
 

HandsomeHead

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I'm not one for asking for statements - in fact I regularly take the piss out of people who do.

But in what way is the incident any different to Ryan Jack at Pittodrie, which was punished with a straight red card then failed at appeal? I've watched them both several times since the weekend and we're talking about literally the exact same thing - player plays the ball, natural momentum/swing takes his studs on to the opponent.

Either both are red cards for endangering an opponent, or nothing - just an accidental collision from the natural momentum.

So why's it only a fucking red card for the Rangers player? Surely this is something we've got to be asking?

It’s more or less what Gerrard said after the game - would it have been handled similarly if Morelos had inflicted the injury on Edwards?

We’re clearly aware of the glaring double standards and I have to think the club have sought some answers in this respect - it really would be something of a dereliction of duty to simply shrug their shoulders and say, ‘oh well.’

But how do we begin to exert more influence and readdress the bias?

What is the bigger plan for challenging Celtic and Lawwell’s political hegemony?

We’ve had over five years to think one up.

Surely there is one at least?
 

LucyBlue

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It’s more or less what Gerrard said after the game - would it have been handled similarly if Morelos had inflicted the injury on Edwards?

We’re clearly aware of the glaring double standards and I have to think the club have sought some answers in this respect - it really would be something of a dereliction of duty to simply shrug their shoulders and say, ‘oh well.’

But how do we begin to exert more influence and readdress the bias?

What is the bigger plan for challenging Celtic and Lawwell’s political hegemony?

We’ve had over five years to think one up.


Why not do what they did?

It worked.
 

Thor

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A reptile actually phoned in Clyde saying it was Morelos’ fault.
They really are a different breed, man!
 

kensington blue nose

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I feel like videos side by side would be better. The one on Morelos from that angle isn’t the same as Jack’s.
 

Gallant_Few

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Absolute farcical.

I really hope the club remember this next time one of our players are cited and take those corrupt basturds to the cleaners. Its beyond a joke now it really is beyond a fukin joke.
 

ChildOfGod

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Just create a set of GIFs and they are backdrop to our media sessions . All the time .

and get them into public domain of course .

I wondered if we should find other new tactics

1. Engage MP/MSP about the additional risks to our workers . Opponents damaging them at work and no / inadequate controls are exerted by Officials And publicise .
2. Engage SPFA with same evidence and additional risks experienced by the club employees.
3. Question the rights that our employees have at sfa/spfl .
4. Raise the Q of race / Othering / Sectarianism being possible explanations for both the acts and the processes failing our employees .
This is the least Caucasian squad we have had - ask is there is any evidence of this having an impact on our refereeing & compliance cases.
5. Could a player with an Injury bring a civil case

just some initial , careless thoughts I have .

remember we have many cases of mishandling and also if we’re question the Otherimg / racism we only have to say this employee feels he / she has this impression.

We have to fight these organisations and fight with all we have

imho
 

mad4rfcme

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Remember Liewell is embedded in this cabal, they will chip away at us all season whenever we threaten the filth, don't have a good feeling about this.
 

bigbluebomber

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Well we are just going to have to do this the hard way, it’s evident that we are going to be on the receiving end of some shit decisions
 

cullybear

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some laugh, so just to be clear you can inflict an unlimited amount of damage with a follow through provided you make contact with the ball first?
Unless your names Ryan Jack. And if you asked me if his challenge was intentional I don't know, but the player arrived slightly late and looked accidental. The one on Morelos was an exaggerated follow through with the intention of injuring him. Anybody who has played the game knows that.
 

Allybear

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Anytime he gets the gig with our matches the club should start making a point of highlighting his track record before the game. Use some avenue of getting the point across before every game.
 

MurciaBear

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Clancys cheating supported by others. No surprise and he'll keep getting Rangers games
Getting to the stage where if there's a chance of sticking in a meaty challenge and taking out the ref at ACL level as collateral...especially that prick Clancy...our player needs to make a right good job of it. Banned for a period of time, but forever a f*ckin hero.
 

BobbyShearer55-65

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Anybody expecting anything different, really hasn't been paying attention.

There has always been jealousy and petty rivalry against the Rangers, but in the last decade we've become the most despised club in the country.

The agenda is to hurt and punish us, each and every way and time they can - and it's not even nearly over yet.
 

EC54

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Can they not ask for them to explain the differences in Jack's tackle and Edwards tackle and to why one was deemed to be a red in an instant while the other not even a card. I honestly would love to hear what they come up with.
 

TheBlueBlazerV3

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It's a toss up I suppose its either paranoia or head in the sand stuff, that challenge was meant to injure
Every incident isnt anti Rangers or anti Morelos
Sometimes, things happen.

Its a battle of perspective, mine - along with many, is that it was a challenge that, whilst no intent to injure, lead to an injury and therefor a
Red card offence.
 

LOL 133

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It’s more or less what Gerrard said after the game - would it have been handled similarly if Morelos had inflicted the injury on Edwards?

We’re clearly aware of the glaring double standards and I have to think the club have sought some answers in this respect - it really would be something of a dereliction of duty to simply shrug their shoulders and say, ‘oh well.’

But how do we begin to exert more influence and readdress the bias?

What is the bigger plan for challenging Celtic and Lawwell’s political hegemony?

We’ve had over five years to think one up.

Surely there is one at least?

Ive been saying for years now that we need to employ a professional who's sole purpose is to gather evidence of the double standards, bias and lies we face day in and day out from the press, media and authorities. It isnt complicated or difficult to do. Our failure to take action allows us to be attacked and cheated both on and off the park. Responding to individual situations is pointless as our enemies will just dismiss our claims. We have to show unequivically that we are not being treated fairly.

As an example, consider the thoughts of ex referee Dermot Gallagher who has quite clearly given his biased opinions on the red card to Ryan Jack despite getting the ball first but has said the exact opposite with regards to Edwards on Morelos. We should be gathering evidence of this bias and demanding answers from Sky but not as an isolated incident.
 

instructor

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The most blatant example of something sinister going on this season was when a blatant penalty for handball at the Copland end was denied to us this season. Some poster may be able to identify the match but it was a league game which we won and the ref (it may have been Bobby Madden but I'm not sure) gave the reason that he made an allowance because of the condidtions. It was simply bizarre, an obvious cover up but it was never followed through by anybody including Rangers. It was an astounding decision and it makes me feel very unseasy about the football authorities.
 

Route 55

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How many more inches of timmy cock rammed up us is it going to take before our board grow a pair of balls and start a fucking war with the football authorities.
Fucking sick of the silent actors taking the plaudits and not fighting the corner.
 

Cromwell

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Every incident isnt anti Rangers or anti Morelos
Sometimes, things happen.

Its a battle of perspective, mine - along with many, is that it was a challenge that, whilst no intent to injure, lead to an injury and therefor a
Red card offence.
Ffs, no one is saying every incident is anti Rangers or Morelos.

However, look at the decisions that regularly go against us. League cup final last year (blatant off side goal and denied 2 penalties). New year game, Jesus where do we start with that, countless stonewall penalties not given last season, horrendous challenges on our players (power, considine, pawlett, plug, porteous, choose any number of Motherwell players). Look at the challenge on roofe a couple of weeks back and then the tackle from behind wiping him out on Saturday. 2 straight red cards but no, only yellow given.

If you don’t think Morelos is being victimised you need to have a rethink. Just look at Cuntys stats against him. Then look at Walsh and others. The poor lad for whatever reason is singled out to be carded. Some of the ones he has received are shocking that no other player receives. Perfect example of that was against Livi a few weeks back, Alfie contests a decision from about 50 yards away and is immediately booked, Livi player from a much closer distance and more vocal and nothing.

We’ve had players sent off for blowing a kiss, in the same incident a St boo defender held the throat of our player and got off Scott free. The hivs Beaton game, player man handled and thrown to the ground our player gets booked, the hivs player should have been off, same hivs player raises his hands to Rangers player, nothing happens, Ryan Jack does the same thing in the same incident and gets a straight red card. Alfie is pole axed by a flying forearm lunge by Foster, unfuckingbelievably Alfie got booked!

We are being cheated, their is no transparency in our game and the lack of professionalism and impartiality by referees, ex-referees, compliant officer and the media is absolutely vile.

Scotland has turned into a poisonous backwater and I for one am now at the final step of giving up on football. What is the point when you have decisions like this consistently go against you. Only 2 seasons ago for the same type of tackle, Ryan Jack was immediately sent off and lost his appeal. Other threads have shown the sheer hypocrisy of the ex sky referee bigot who stated Jacks was a clear red and Alfie’s was not.
 

IbroxForever

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We will not be allowed to win anything this year by the officials who are supposed to protect the games/ players etc. Until our club come out and critise what is happening, the officials are only going to continue to protect one club.
Said it from day 1 we came back into the top div, this mob have no intentions of us winning the title again.
 

Ibroxcw

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Green light for Porteous, I'm tipping Kent and Roofe to be assaulted. It will take a leg breaker for the club to say anything unfortunately
 

HandsomeHead

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Ive been saying for years now that we need to employ a professional who's sole purpose is to gather evidence of the double standards, bias and lies we face day in and day out from the press, media and authorities. It isnt complicated or difficult to do. Our failure to take action allows us to be attacked and cheated both on and off the park. Responding to individual situations is pointless as our enemies will just dismiss our claims. We have to show unequivically that we are not being treated fairly.

As an example, consider the thoughts of ex referee Dermot Gallagher who has quite clearly given his biased opinions on the red card to Ryan Jack despite getting the ball first but has said the exact opposite with regards to Edwards on Morelos. We should be gathering evidence of this bias and demanding answers from Sky but not as an isolated incident.

I’m not sure that actually achieves much if we don’t have the platforms to present it on.

I feel the answer lies further up the power chain: cultivating relationships with TV heads, editors, politicians and pretenders to the crown of football governance in Scotland.

Surely when King and co. wrestled control of the club back from the spivs this was at least one plan of action on the to do list?

I never expected it to be a quick fix, but I did expect that over five years later we’d have started to make some visible in roads.
 
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