Partickger
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Counter attacking suits our players but we need to sort that defence out to have any chance. Two cheap goals from corners tonight is suicide at this level.
Jesus that's bad reading. Didn't realise it was as bad as that.We need to play better than we did against Union.
Last year away from home we failed to beat Braga, Red Star, Alashkert, Sparta Prague, Brondby, Malmö and then two powerhouses in Lyon and Leipzig.
We did beat Dortmund however
But the odds are really against us - but you never know
At 2-1 that was our great chance as their keeper was under pressure but we reverted to dangerous passes in our own half and didn’t test him again.Too much of our possession is passes between our defenders.
We only managed to play for short spells in the game, our first goal was a cracker and the second lucky. I'm pee'd off we never put another shot into that keeper after he dropped one in.
It’s fcking brain damage to watch us doing it over and over. Seriously losing patience with it as it’s definitely being coached into them.At 2-1 that was our great chance as their keeper was under pressure but we reverted to dangerous passes in our own half and didn’t test him again.
Not as good as I thought they would be but we're not yet at the level we were in europe last year.PSV were nowhere near as good a team as I thought they were. They are there for the taking next week.
Statements like that as if its fact annoy me tbh. We could lose a goal in the 1st minute and equalise in the 90th and end up going through.Its 60-40 % in PSV's favour. We must score first over there or its done.Tonight was the night to throw the kitchen sink at the Dutch when we went 2-1 up. We can still do it, but it'll be difficult.
We're definitely up against it next week and go in as pretty obvious second favourites.
However, there's also an element of pressure on them next week. Do they come out and go for it, leaving gaps for us to exploit? Or do they sit in, keep it tight, and let pressure from the home crowd build?
Overall, home advantage is just that - but without a clear task of what you have to do e.g. us vs Braga/Leipzig, it can bring its downsides.
Agreed. I think they’ll be quite comfortable coming out to win at home to be honest.I think your point about them not knowing what they have to do is more applicable to if away goals counted.
PSV patently know they have to win the game because it’s now a one off knockout.
Couldn’t agree more, equalizer came from our first move of fast positive play but we don’t do it nearly enough. We were so negative on the ball most of the game tonight.It’s fcking brain damage to watch us doing it over and over. Seriously losing patience with it as it’s definitely being coached into them.
We look far better when we get on the front foot and move at pace. I really don’t think we play to our strengths.
Statements like that as if its fact annoy me tbh. We could lose a goal in the 1st minute and equalise in the 90th and end up going through.
Exactly ,PSV were trailing Monaco and scored in dying minutes to force extra time then went on to win.Statements like that as if its fact annoy me tbh. We could lose a goal in the 1st minute and equalise in the 90th and end up going through.
This is different we played to stay in tie we will go for it nothing to loseWe need to play better than we did against Union.
Last year away from home we failed to beat Braga, Red Star, Alashkert, Sparta Prague, Brondby, Malmö and then two powerhouses in Lyon and Leipzig.
We did beat Dortmund however
But the odds are really against us - but you never know
We needed fresh legs.Second half performance suggests we may struggle next week.
6/4 with bookiesWhat do we reckon 40% chance of going through, maybe a touch more?
Monaco came close after a 1st leg draw.
There's context missing from a few of the games you listed there.We need to play better than we did against Union.
Last year away from home we failed to beat Braga, Red Star, Alashkert, Sparta Prague, Brondby, Malmö and then two powerhouses in Lyon and Leipzig.
We did beat Dortmund however
But the odds are really against us - but you never know
Do the stats back that up?They made more chances than we did tonight and our defence looks fragile at times. Once again it took a mistake by their keeper to give us the lead. It will be very difficult away and we can't rely on them making errors to see us through. As others have said our away form in Europe recently is abysmal.
We need to tighten up at the back, defend corners better in particular and get a hold of the midfield. We can do it but have to perform at our very best.
That's just silly mate.Think we needed to win tonight to stand any chance tbh.
I suspect they'll create more at home which means we'll need to defend far better and create more chances.
Jesus that's bad reading. Didn't realise it was as bad as that.
We're only still in the tie because their keeper had a howler. There was only one team scoring in that second half and a stroke of luck gave us a 2nd.That's just silly mate.
The tie is finely poised. Yeah they'll be favourites to go through but it's not like we'll be rocking up as 33/1 outsiders to progress.
Don't think we maintained the intensity that got us the goal at the start of the second half and felt we can pay better,on balance they're no mugs and it will require a Dortmund away performance to get through. We'll capable of it.Second half performance suggests we may struggle next week.
You're talking nonsense saying we have no chance plain and simple.We're only still in the tie because their keeper had a howler. There was only one team scoring in that second half and a stroke of luck gave us a 2nd.
Little and unlikely chance then. Does that wording make you feel better?You're talking nonsense saying we have no chance plain and simple.
Not the ideal result but we're 100% still in the tie imo.Still quite confident we can do this
Genuinely thought they would have been far more free flowing. seemed more methodical in their build up, confident passers but expected them to be more creative. Dont think we out smarted or out played. Rie is still very much alive and now its up to them to set the tone on the retunr leg.
In eindhoven id like to see us go more 4-3-3 with a defensive midfield and Kent and Matondo on the wings,
Make me feel better, seriouslyLittle and unlikely chance then. Does that wording make you feel better?
Did u watch the same gamethey did in the middle but they didnt make an awful lot of use with it
OkBack to basics for the gameplan:
1. Don't give away corners. That means less of them to defend and nullify something they'll target.
2. Plenty of pace in the team for counter attacks. Expect Matondo and Kent to feature for this reason.
3. Keep our shape and discipline. Make it tight. Stop them playing and frustrate them. They will want to come out guns blazing to score early and get their crowd up for it and make it difficult. Do not shit the bed if they score first.
4. Win the individual battles, be aggressive and show no respect.
5. Practice penalties. We don't want to be going into a shoot out if it gets to that point without practicing them after Seville. It is not a lottery, it is a skill and test of nerve.
I wouldn't say I'm confident, but we indeed CAN do this.Still quite confident we can do this
Genuinely thought they would have been far more free flowing. seemed more methodical in their build up, confident passers but expected them to be more creative. Dont think we out smarted or out played. Rie is still very much alive and now its up to them to set the tone on the retunr leg.
In eindhoven id like to see us go more 4-3-3 with a defensive midfield and Kent and Matondo on the wings,
I don't think we have any chance next week. I don't really care who thinks what of that either on a message board or not.Make me feel better, seriously
You said we don't stand any chance on a message board which I said to you was nonsense. Maybe if we'd lost by a few goals you'd have had a case for that but we didn't.
Changing your wording makes me feel neither up nor down but makes you look a bit less silly.