That's the worst part of it mate. We changed a winning formation to suit them WHY ?
Match Thread Rangers v Celtic - 12:00 Sunday - Sky Sports
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Horace goes Skiing
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You've lost the plot.
Unfortunately I along with many others called it right when we seen the starting line up.
Gaffer has to hold his hands up today and, tbh i think he will, he got the team wrong from the off starting with no width against their questionable full backs and with no real press, one mistake and we ended up chasing the game.
They didn't even have to work to win the game.
YES It's Shite getting beat but at the end of the day it's only 3 points, trophies aren't won or lost in September.
I trust Gerrard to learn from this.
Gaffer has to hold his hands up today and, tbh i think he will, he got the team wrong from the off starting with no width against their questionable full backs and with no real press, one mistake and we ended up chasing the game.
They didn't even have to work to win the game.
YES It's Shite getting beat but at the end of the day it's only 3 points, trophies aren't won or lost in September.
I trust Gerrard to learn from this.
Mondraker
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No surrender? Come on you're not 12. Also go through those teams and remind yourself of their quality.
%^*& off. Played 20 mins and was our bedt player.
thetoptier
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hardly,
he hasn't been backed with the cash that puts us anywhere near a level playing field with the scum
if we are within 5/6 pooints of the scum and lose both cup finals to them he'll go again
Goity
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It's one game.
The team set up today though.
Not terrible as per a lot of people have been banging on about, but the way we were playing and considering how we performed on Thurs, today was crying out for:
McGregor
Tav, Goldson, Katic, Barisic
Jack
Ojo, Davis, Jones
Aribo (or Arfield)
Morelos
Considering Goldsons balls up today, A Helander Katic partnership is worth a look.
Tims outplayed us, we were the worst we've been this season, ref was ok except for the yellow, potential red by McGregor that Madden opted to ignore in the first half.
SG shat starting Alfie due to his card being marked.
The team set up today though.
Not terrible as per a lot of people have been banging on about, but the way we were playing and considering how we performed on Thurs, today was crying out for:
McGregor
Tav, Goldson, Katic, Barisic
Jack
Ojo, Davis, Jones
Aribo (or Arfield)
Morelos
Considering Goldsons balls up today, A Helander Katic partnership is worth a look.
Tims outplayed us, we were the worst we've been this season, ref was ok except for the yellow, potential red by McGregor that Madden opted to ignore in the first half.
SG shat starting Alfie due to his card being marked.
Horace goes Skiing
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Played 30 mins and was shite. Two woeful off target shots.
Al Needham Loyal
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Alright, let's change 'no surrender' to 'you're not much if a supporter if you're throwing in the towel after 4 league games' - is that erudite or loquacious enough for you?
Do we really need to go through this surrender monkey, fairweather 'fan' shite every single time we have a bad result? The league is not won or lost in September.
Barbados True Blues
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As previously mentioned they came on to us just like we did to them in December and also the final game last season.
I noticed in the first 5 minutes they wanted it more.
The team selection was poor.They were supposed to be weak in defence but no Jones or Alfredo.
I think its a big kick up the arse ( which we most probably needed) for all.
So we must know chase them and beat them every time we meet them.
Its early doors yet.
I noticed in the first 5 minutes they wanted it more.
The team selection was poor.They were supposed to be weak in defence but no Jones or Alfredo.
I think its a big kick up the arse ( which we most probably needed) for all.
So we must know chase them and beat them every time we meet them.
Its early doors yet.
isawthat
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That’s the league done for another season
Go back into your dark cupboard, and take your medication with you.
servicepoint
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They were in our faces from the start and we couldn’t cope with it, they are strong in the middle and us trying to match up to that played into their hands unfortunately. Jones should have started and been at their full backs pinning them back and that’s down to Gerrard no one else. Defoe was lost up front and did absolutely nothing stemming from the lack of service given to him, the amount of high balls fired up to him because of no option out wide was ridiculous, it played into their two central defenders hands and were never troubled.
Tavernier has been poor for the last couple of games and that continued today, Goldson needs dropped and Arfield needs a rest.
Tavernier has been poor for the last couple of games and that continued today, Goldson needs dropped and Arfield needs a rest.
Get a fckn gripThat’s the league done for another season
That today was %^*& all to do with Morelos. He should have started and we should have went for the jugular instead of giving them all the respect.
Moreloslaces
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Had a lie down. Thanks for your concern though.
Burgos St Bear
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Guys, it was obvious that Celtic would counter our pressing tactics. Even the TLB is not an idiot- they successfully pressed us and scored an oppurtunustoc goal.
Rt. Hon. Bearman
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That’s the league done for another season
Is it aye?
And had we won today would you also be saying that's the league done?
Or are you just a pessimistic bore?
RoxburghGer
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Last time we won the league they took 7 points off us, including 4 points at Ibrox. It's shit but not a disaster
Zapp Brannigan
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Our team needs space to play in, so narrowing it so much and flooding the midfield while having the only striker who runs the channels on the bench, was criminal.
And too many players woefully short of form.
And too many players woefully short of form.
Barbados True Blues
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It is best to criticize when we are winning,I dint think Ojo( poor) or Aribo (potential, but did not understand what today was all about) are world beaters no improvement on the loss of Kent
True, we were better against East Fife
Maweepaljoe
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With far superior players than we have now unfortunately
Still wetting yourself or has the lie down helped?
Macdonsj
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My two cents
Mcgregor 8 - several key saves when we started pushing up
Tav 4 - poor
Goldson 3 - needs dropped
Katic 6 - was ok
Flanagan 6 - did well
Kamara 3 - didn't get to grips at all
Davis 6 - not the worst but with his ability he should be running that game.
Jack 7 - didn't let us down
Aribo 3 - awful first half, slightly better 2nd
Arfield 4 - poor and needs a rest, has done for weeks
Defoe 4 - poor, games like today when it's poor service you have to make things happen, he didn't
Morelos 5 - got at them when others didn't
Ojo 2 - little impact
Jones 1 - did little then a stupid red
Gerrard 3 - shocking selection
Madden 3 - shite bag
Mcgregor 8 - several key saves when we started pushing up
Tav 4 - poor
Goldson 3 - needs dropped
Katic 6 - was ok
Flanagan 6 - did well
Kamara 3 - didn't get to grips at all
Davis 6 - not the worst but with his ability he should be running that game.
Jack 7 - didn't let us down
Aribo 3 - awful first half, slightly better 2nd
Arfield 4 - poor and needs a rest, has done for weeks
Defoe 4 - poor, games like today when it's poor service you have to make things happen, he didn't
Morelos 5 - got at them when others didn't
Ojo 2 - little impact
Jones 1 - did little then a stupid red
Gerrard 3 - shocking selection
Madden 3 - shite bag
Treble Kings
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That’s the league done for another season
Shut up, ya tit...
Seaside Blue
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Celtic pressed us today, and made us as uncomfortable as we made them in their last two visits. Coupled with some of our players being slow and a yard off, and we got what we deserved which sadly was nothing. We knew they would be up for it with Lennon as manager, but we weren’t even close to what we are capable of. It’s a tough one, and some of the overconfidence from our fanbase going in was akin to what we slag them for. However, there’s a long way to go. We are all gutted, but we can recover. Gerrard must also take his share of the blame too, but he will also learn a lesson, hopefully.
VGM
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6 generous for Davis IMO
DEJA BLUE
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With respect, he's getting the basics of management wrong at crucial stages of matches, team selection tactics and subs
Ibroxroar
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I would give Arfield and Tav 2.
Aribo was a absolute shambles today. Make not mistake about it, he was signed to be the quality but was dreadful (he was in good company). A game at Ibrox to lay down a marker and probably only McGregor and possibly flano get anywhere near pass marks. Shambles
Jack was woeful today
blue genes
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Yes, we have improved the squad, although on a day like today the case can be made for questioning why McCrorie & Candeias were allowed to depart, but we still haven't signed any wow-factor signings or game-changers.
I rubbed my hands when I saw their defence, then I put them back in my pocket when I saw our team selection. We started on the back foot & never got off it. Very easy win for them - at a canter in fact - a deflating & very concerning day.
I rubbed my hands when I saw their defence, then I put them back in my pocket when I saw our team selection. We started on the back foot & never got off it. Very easy win for them - at a canter in fact - a deflating & very concerning day.
Jack was dreadful. Continually having to tackle due to his shit pass in the first place.
gersandproud
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IMO we beat ourselves today - again
Sure our formation & tactics didn't help - but the performances from Aribo, Kamara, Goldson & Arfield were way below what they are capable of
The most annoying thing for me is - the scum are barely average & we handed the game to them on a plate
Another worry for me is that 'beating ourselves' by not consistently playing to our strenghts, is what cost us the league last season-
I know it's early - but we need to get this out of our system once & for all, to bring home 55
Sure our formation & tactics didn't help - but the performances from Aribo, Kamara, Goldson & Arfield were way below what they are capable of
The most annoying thing for me is - the scum are barely average & we handed the game to them on a plate
Another worry for me is that 'beating ourselves' by not consistently playing to our strenghts, is what cost us the league last season-
I know it's early - but we need to get this out of our system once & for all, to bring home 55
Barbados True Blues
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As much as it pains me to say, Celt*c are still a good team. They’ve had a rough start to the season, but they still have lots of individual players who can win a game. Today showed that. Either we still need a couple of more high quality signings (unlikely), or we need to deliver performances like our two OF wins of last season - but crucially, under this season’s immense pressure
thetoptier
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no
they're not a good team that is part of what makes that performance let alone result totally abhorrent
Robocop1960
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Aye phucking right just back home after game and commiseration drink they might have won the battle but we can still win the war.Their arrogance will be their undoing Lennon and the rest of the tramp hordes will think that they are winning league easy.Whether gerrard thought we might stuggle fitness wise after Thursday or just picked the wrong team I dont know(he knows more about football than me and probably all on here)but dont give in so easily.That’s the league done for another season
What rough start have they had? A bad 2nd half performance againt cluj overall doesn't mean a rough start.
As far as whether they are a good team or not. Well Scottish wise they are the best until we show otherwise, simple as that. European wise they haven't been shown to be a good team over the past few seasons and ultimately that is how they will be judged again this season as to how far they progress in the Europa league. If they don't get out there section then they can't be classed as a good team. At the end of they day whether they are classed as good or not we still have catching up to do.
GKee96
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I don't think he was dreadful but aye he still made up for the passed he lost!
perthtruebluetwo
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Just home from the game and im so disappointed, we seem to be taking two steps forward then three back. Gerrard team selection today was woeful and he should have had the balls to change it after 15/20 minutes, Mcgregor and Flannigan apart I wouldn't give pass marks to anyone, i really don't understand why we stood off them allowing them to pass the ball about on their own half, they played us at our own game today with the high press. I'm gutted to see that scum celebrating at full time because they are a poor outfit, they were just better than us today.
Terrible performance today all over the park especially middle to front where we should have made it count in passing & crossing all day they were piss poor.
More galling that these players already know that mob aren't anything special ,the manager also needs to address this inability to overcome being squeezed out a game as the standards just drop with little or no reply as to overcome these tactics the last three games have panned out the same way.
The quality of crosses & passes is pathetic despite recent goals of that nature we do not utilise the channels especially enough with sharper pass & move when we need it dragging their players instead of standing like dummies waiting for a ball to come to them that either gets intercepted or forced out wide to be closed out.
More galling that these players already know that mob aren't anything special ,the manager also needs to address this inability to overcome being squeezed out a game as the standards just drop with little or no reply as to overcome these tactics the last three games have panned out the same way.
The quality of crosses & passes is pathetic despite recent goals of that nature we do not utilise the channels especially enough with sharper pass & move when we need it dragging their players instead of standing like dummies waiting for a ball to come to them that either gets intercepted or forced out wide to be closed out.
Dumfriesbear
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Yet again Tav lost us the first goal, fans need to waken up to his pish distribution.
We were equal to them but got to ask what was the difference between McGregors 1st half late tackle and JJ's?
We were equal to them but got to ask what was the difference between McGregors 1st half late tackle and JJ's?
KensingtonBlue
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I just don’t see it with Aribo. He’s not the creative outlet we needed. We desperately needed an attacking midfielder/number 10 to create and unlock. He seems content to sit back and try and be a playmaker but we have enough of them in our team.
Time to give him a spell out of the team. He disrupts our balance big time. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence Kamara has suddenly been poor despite being our best midfielder at the end of last season. Give Kamara an advanced role IMO.
Time to give him a spell out of the team. He disrupts our balance big time. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence Kamara has suddenly been poor despite being our best midfielder at the end of last season. Give Kamara an advanced role IMO.
