Blue seventy two
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That's the issue in a nutshell.We need a centre mid.
So many times our forwards are making runs and the midfield makes a sideways or backwards pass and the momentum is lost. So easy to defend against
That's the issue in a nutshell.We need a centre mid.
So many times our forwards are making runs and the midfield makes a sideways or backwards pass and the momentum is lost. So easy to defend against
“Winner” though according to the manager
Must have had most passes, most pass completions yet never bar 1 I recall set up an offensive route to goal.
he’s not meant to be splitting the defence. His job is to give it to those that are supposed to do that. He’s playing deep vs. a packed defence without space behind. He played one ball, I think to Arfield that was over the top and behind but also cycled it plenty to Barisic and Tav which the way the team is set up to play. Played it to Morelos’ feet and into Kent and Hagi on numerous occasions too.
BT did a very good analysis of his role before kick off.
Jack and Kamara are told to sit deep to cover for Tav and Borna tanking upfield. Their role is mainly to break things up and protect the central defenders when the wings backs are off. Not unlike Mongo’s role at the paedo harbourers.
If Jack went charging upfield into the final third we’d be left totally exposed down the middle.
I’m going to cut him some slack here and guess that he’s being told to stay deep and careful by the boss.
agree mate.I'll ask the question once again.
Do any of the critics understand " defensive midfielder".
The only one's to blame today are our attacking players.
An Aberdeen player playing for us.
Never win anything with dross like him in the team.
BT did a very good analysis of his role before kick off.
Jack and Kamara are told to sit deep to cover for Tav and Borna tanking upfield. Their role is mainly to break things up and protect the central defenders when the wings backs are off. Not unlike Mongo’s role at the paedo harbourers.
If Jack went charging upfield into the final third we’d be left totally exposed down the middle.
I’m going to cut him some slack here and guess that he’s being told to stay deep and careful by the boss.
So what's Kamara there for? Surely we only need one of them for that role against Livi.BT did a very good analysis of his role before kick off.
Jack and Kamara are told to sit deep to cover for Tav and Borna tanking upfield. Their role is mainly to break things up and protect the central defenders when the wings backs are off. Not unlike Mongo’s role at the paedo harbourers.
If Jack went charging upfield into the final third we’d be left totally exposed down the middle.
Against the likes of Livingston Football Club there is no way they would have opened us up and exposed us if he had gone up field mate.BT did a very good analysis of his role before kick off.
Jack and Kamara are told to sit deep to cover for Tav and Borna tanking upfield. Their role is mainly to break things up and protect the central defenders when the wings backs are off. Not unlike Mongo’s role at the paedo harbourers.
If Jack went charging upfield into the final third we’d be left totally exposed down the middle.
I’m going to cut him some slack here and guess that he’s being told to stay deep and careful by the boss.
As an aside and a last wee edit, forgot to say that Aribo was badly missed today. He is fast becoming the only midfielder we have capable of teasing open a stuffy defence
Are the tactics:I started a thread about this that was chopped. I said maybe he is being asked to play this role. Which is not his fault. Being asked to take the ball from defence and pass out wide. If so Tactics are shit as we had to be looking at going more direct that outwide constantly. Going outwide and cutting in has been successful but you must mix it up. If a pass is on to someone going direct then do it. We did this once I recall from Jack.
I know f.uck all about football? Never claimed I didYou, seriously know absolutely fu.ck all about football.
Obviously!!
No m8, he only once gave it to an offensive player who then when receiving the ball had a chance to exploit. Everything else was an inbetween pass. A pass that could have been made without his touch. SLOWED everything down.
Completely disagree. He did his job efficiently. His job is not to create chances, it’s to get the ball to the guys that are there to create chances.
I know f.uck all about football? Never claimed I did
I wasn’t commenting on tactics, formations, squad selections etc all I did was make observations about Ryan Jack’s inability to make a positive forward pass, or in some cases even find his own man.
Needs replaced with a box to box I think.
He's not chipping in enough. He slows down the tempo too much for me.
Replace Jack with a midfielder who is willing to drive on the ball and take risks, unlike Jack who looks for the safe ball every time.
As with whats happened to Davis, it's time Jack moves to a bench player.
Although I agree 100%, is he being asked to perform this role? If not why did he not come off?
Although I agree 100%, is he being asked to perform this role? If not why did he not come off?
look m8, his job is to find the player that can create chances 100% agree
However finding them by a side pass on the halfway line or a very slight diagonal is not what is required when 10 players are behind the ball.
I'll keep saying it.
He's a DEFENSIVE midfielder.
Surely Rangers fans aren't that stupid.
Our problems today weren't down to Ryan Jack.
For 90% of our games, he simply isn't compatible with what we need.
surely he has to pass the ball to where they are?!
He played it in to forward players feet and to the wide, high full backs on plenty of occasions throughout the game.
Those creative players and the three strikers we had on the pitch are the ones that we should be discussing today.
Fed up hearing about his Jack doesn’t get enough assists or goals (and I know that’s not necessarily you). Seems to be the easy target after every game like this when it’s the forwards’ job to unlock defences and score goals, not the central midfield who actually controlled the game and kept Livingston penned in for 90 minutes, providing a platform for those guys to do more.
Jack played well today. Moved the ball to the guys that are supposed to be creative with it well.
What did you think of Kamara and Arfield today?
Spot on mate.Yep. Bring him in to play games where we have to battle more for the ball and defend against teams who actually want to put us under sustained pressure or break with real intent. He isn't needed in games like today's, and the manager needs to look at being more adaptable in the systems we use.
We are too predictable, and Gerrard is too wedded to the the 4-3-2-1. Game like today is ideal for mixing it up a bit, play a diamond or a 3-5-2 and allow another striker with Hagi at number 10.
He had an absolute stinker and was totally ineffective, there’s no shame in admitting it.I'll keep saying it.
He's a DEFENSIVE midfielder.
Surely Rangers fans aren't that stupid.
Our problems today weren't down to Ryan Jack.
Easiest job in our team with some peoples expectation levels of him.
Kemar Roofe got an early indication of the ability he will be working with in midfield, when he was standing screaming for Jack to play him a pass for about 5 seconds. For Jack to turn away and play a sideways pass.
Only the 100th time we’ve seen that happen.
ps m8 first time I have had a go at him as it was blatantly obvious.
I wish I could see a diagram of all his passes today. Think it would explain alot.
Most Passes - tick
Most pass completition - tick
Forward passes directed goalward - NONE maybe 1
His passing today could have been completed by a midfielder two league levels below. Safe, Slow and Short.
He barely completed a forward pass, he took the ball from the toes of his central defenders, took a few touches and squared it to Kamara who would move it one even slower and with less pace.
He gets nose bleeds 25 yards from goal and the ball resorts back in our own half.
If a Rangers CM can't play with their head up, pick out that early pass or show a bit of authority, urgency or ability to make that pass then they need replaced.
Good squad player, never a first team regular.
I’d also like to see that diagram!
What game were you watching?He was very good the 1st hour today
the diagram would show his end pass still had 9 livi players goalside. HONESTLY bar 1.
There was no space behind them! He had no players running behind to hit either. Today we needed the guys Jack was passing it forward to, to turn and front up, try to beat a man or draw players towards him, like Ronald De Boer used to do so effectively for us. That’s actually a good example as if you looked at a Barry Ferguson pass diagram against a defence like that you’d have seen something similar to Jack’s today, I guess he wasn’t good enough either.
The other thing is that we actually did put at least half a dozen dangerous crosses in to the box today. Which Livi defended incredibly well.
No he wasn’t - he was average and done what most professional footballers do which is kick a pass 2-4 yards side waysHe was very good the 1st hour today
What game were you watching?
Not going to slaughter the guy from today but vastly over rated imo
Tidy player techinacally sound and always gives us 100%.
But a key player in a Rangers title winning team?
Nope for me
Ross County is the only game I can remember Jack dictating the gameMust have been watching that Ross County game from last season