Six months of hard work blown inside three weeks

hyndlandloyal

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Allardyce would be an outstanding appointment.

I think we need to hope gerrard is a gentleman and resigns at the end of the season. We cannot afford to sack him and his staff, while bringing in more players.
He has given us progress but just cant see him taking us the final step.

It may be boring , but we need a manager now who has been in battles at the bottom as well as at the top.
Someone in the mould of Moyes , bruce , Mclaren , allardyce etc.
As i say, folk will feign shock and horror at these names. They know how to win games though with limited players, they make teams better .
Maybe even benitez has made enough money and fancies showing gerrard how it should be done?
 

Bowery Boy

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That 2nd half was utterly woeful. Game was crying out for Davis to come on and put his foot on the ball. Saturday will be absolutely toxic at Ibrox
 

TPP

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This team needs ripped apart in the summer. Assets needs sold and the deadwood need binned.

We need bastards in the team who simply will not accept defeat or second best. Right now, we have none except McGregor. Absolutely sick of this Rangers team losing late goals THEN pretending to care about winning the game before moaning at FT.
deep down, do you really trust Gerrardto build a team? It will be full of Ojo’s and Aribos. He has built this team and diluted it of any core strength.
 

looway

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VAR would have seen us as league leaders.
I really can't believe what I'm reading ...
There's been football without VAR for 150 years and we've won 54 titles without it. As is the case with boxing, you have to be good enough to take the title from the champion and not rely on judges handing it to you.
 

Stez64

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There's been football without VAR for 150 years and we've won 54 titles without it. As is the case with boxing, you have to be good enough to take the title from the champion and not rely on judges handing it to you.
We are being cheated mate , so being better than them is irrelevant
 

Earl of Leven

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he replaced the pressure and work rate of candieas, for fucking Ojo. I said at that time to much abuse it was symbolic of what was to come and Ojo was shite. We then signed barker......
There were very few of us who predicted that losing Candieas would be a mistake....but it was clear that a Liverpool U19 loanee wouldn't do the job. Candieas was erratic but he worked, kept the shape and didn't chuck it.
 

Tommy1656

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Really hard trying to work out how a team could play with such fire,passion,arrogance and looked like they wanted to win every time they played in the first half of season,i think we need a true Rangers player in there who knows what its all about , give it to teammates when not performing brown,mcoist Sound as Greig all come to mind ,he's out there just need to find him ,but we are still Rangers till we die
WATP
 

ibroxbound

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League's done. It's over. Celtic will win this league by double figures in April.

That second half performance from all concerned was diabolical. Not a single pass mark. Not a single player wanting it enough. Too busy fannying about to kill the game off.

There isn't a supporter on here who will be fooled by the calvary charge at 80 minutes when it's 1-1. There isn't a supporter on here who wasn't screaming for a change before hand when we were losing every single loose and second ball in the middle of the park.

Mentally ? This team don't have it post winter break. The serious stuff starts and we absolutely cave in. Meanwhile the Yahoos have a nice wee procession of 3, 4 and 5 goal humpings against the same set of teams we're toiling against. Watch them rack up another cricket score on Sunday at a place we routinely struggle at.

To drop two points tonight would've hurt. To lose all three from where we were at 76 minutes is unacceptable.
I could be wrong but I'm sure there was recent data that said we have lost more goals in the last 15 minutes of games than any other sector.
 

Ranger37

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There's been football without VAR for 150 years and we've won 54 titles without it. As is the case with boxing, you have to be good enough to take the title from the champion and not rely on judges handing it to you.
Think you are missing the point.

We don’t look for favours, only fairness.

The tarriers in our position and playing as badly as us would have ground out a result last night because they don’t face game/result changing decisions going against them

The club have to speak out on this.

It’s already cost us the League cup, and while we are sometimes good enough to overcome the blatant bias against us (piggery) There are games where we don’t play well and this is when it really costs us
 

cav

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most of his signings have been poor, Barisic and CHs apart.
I disagree with that to an extent at least- we’ve managed to get players in who can contribute well to a degree for what we have paid for them in the main.

My issue has always been with the larger outlays where we needed a better quality of player in to really make the difference.

Grezda,Helander,Kent and arguably even Goldson haven’t provided that level of quality required when we have paid what for us,is significant transfer fees.

Imo we should have had two b.astards in defence and midfield, and two sprinkles of magic in the first team for the near sixteen million quid we shelled out on the above four.
 

looway

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Think you are missing the point.

We don’t look for favours, only fairness.

The tarriers in our position and playing as badly as us would have ground out a result last night because they don’t face game/result changing decisions going against them

The club have to speak out on this.

It’s already cost us the League cup, and while we are sometimes good enough to overcome the blatant bias against us (piggery) There are games where we don’t play well and this is when it really costs us
In the 1989 SCF Roy Aitken took a throw in which was a Rangers throw and it led to the only goal. We complained as we were better and should have won but were still good enough to go and win the league. Complaining about refs is for losers. Would you be happy going into next season with the same squad but foreign referees? If you want new players then there's your answer, the one's we have can't win the league if we can't consistently beat Kilmarnock.
 

Woodrow Call

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Since the winter break, Celtic have come back at the league with a new formation and style of play that the rest of the league can't handle because it's new and they haven't yet figured out how to counter it. We came back with the same old tactic we've been using for 18 months and they all know how to counter perfectly. It's hardly a surprise that we're falling behind.

When your tactic gets found out, change it up! This 4-3-2-1 has been well and truly found out. Imagine the panic in the Kilmarnock side if we suddenly played a different system than the one they'd prepared for? But no, we do exactly what they want us to.
Spot on.
 

looway

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We are being cheated mate , so being better than them is irrelevant
We're not better than them if we can't win often enough to win the league. If Kilmarnock only had us to play they'd win the league. I chanted cheat cheat cheat at referees for most of the 80's, dried up a bit in the 90's for some reason. Blaming referees is for losers even if they are to blame. Walter's teams found a way to win, Gerrard's have it all to do. At this point it doesn't look like this team has it in them. We gave celtic a bloody nose and so far they've responded like our 9 in a row team would've. They took the slap mowbreyesque on the chin and responded appropriately, we have responded as if the league was already won.
 

Stez64

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We're not better than them if we can't win often enough to win the league. If Kilmarnock only had us to play they'd win the league. I chanted cheat cheat cheat at referees for most of the 80's, dried up a bit in the 90's for some reason. Blaming referees is for losers even if they are to blame. Walter's teams found a way to win, Gerrard's have it all to do. At this point it doesn't look like this team has it in them. We gave celtic a bloody nose and so far they've responded like our 9 in a row team would've. They took the slap mowbreyesque on the chin and responded appropriately, we have responded as if the league was already won.
I'll repeat, if we had VAR , we would be top of the league.
That means we are better than the rest , but the way we are being refd means that we are not the best .
I didn't celebrate the win on the 29th out of pure rage at Clancy's performance.
Maybe I'm wrong , but I don't think I am . The stats prove that the tarriers can foul all day and receive no bookings . Alfie just has to celebrate a goal to get booked, the same celebration he did with Rangers fans .
I could go on ...
 

Dave Angell

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Im completely bewildered by this.

Weve given them the league on a plate.

Agreed. We've seen the last two Christmases, you put them under serious pressure and they start to squeal like piggies.

Unexplicably, we've taken the foot off the gas both times, allowed them to regroup & saunter towards the title.
 
"Six months of hard work blown inside three weeks". This is the most galling part for me. After the tough December fixture list that we came through relatively unscathed, I was pretty confident we would push on and put the Shettleston Harriers under some real pressure. I cannot fathom why our arse has collapsed in such spectacular fashion. Injuries haven't helped, but the stats since the Winter break are piss poor. As baffling as it is dispiriting.
 

Ian1872

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I'll repeat, if we had VAR , we would be top of the league.
That means we are better than the rest , but the way we are being refd means that we are not the best .
I didn't celebrate the win on the 29th out of pure rage at Clancy's performance.
Maybe I'm wrong , but I don't think I am . The stats prove that the tarriers can foul all day and receive no bookings . Alfie just has to celebrate a goal to get booked, the same celebration he did with Rangers fans .
I could go on ...
Sorry, but I cant get on board with this. We have dealt with honking ref decisions for decades and still won titles. The McGregor penalty save at Ibrox is still celebrated, the difference being in that season we were good enough to take care of the dross regardless of ref decisions.

Last night Beaton was awful, but that is not a cover all excuse to avoid our own mistakes.

We were not done out of points at Tynecastle or at home to Aberdeen by refs. We were just shit. We have been consistently since January. That is a massive concern that this team can go from the football we saw in December to this dross. Weve done it 2 seasons in a row.
 

looway

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I'll repeat, if we had VAR , we would be top of the league.
That means we are better than the rest , but the way we are being refd means that we are not the best .
I didn't celebrate the win on the 29th out of pure rage at Clancy's performance.
Maybe I'm wrong , but I don't think I am . The stats prove that the tarriers can foul all day and receive no bookings . Alfie just has to celebrate a goal to get booked, the same celebration he did with Rangers fans .
I could go on ...
It's fine for you to have the view that you're the best even when you finish second. Your view results in acceptance of second best. I prefer to look at the failings of the players and staff at Ibrox for the reason we can't win titles. The real reason we aren't winning is we haven't shown that we've consistently got what it takes.
 

Stez64

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Sorry, but I cant get on board with this. We have dealt with honking ref decisions for decades and still won titles. The McGregor penalty save at Ibrox is still celebrated, the difference being in that season we were good enough to take care of the dross regardless of ref decisions.

Last night Beaton was awful, but that is not a cover all excuse to avoid our own mistakes.

We were not done out of points at Tynecastle or at home to Aberdeen by refs. We were just shit. We have been consistently since January. That is a massive concern that this team can go from the football we saw in December to this dross. Weve done it 2 seasons in a row.
Tynecastle , we were diabolical, especially after going 1 up .
Aberdeen, we were kicked off the park . Someone said Cosgrove had 10 fouls, another said he had 13 fouls and wasn't booked .
We are watching our players being assaulted.
Anyone stating we are ref'd fairly is at it
 
There were very few of us who predicted that losing Candieas would be a mistake....but it was clear that a Liverpool U19 loanee wouldn't do the job. Candieas was erratic but he worked, kept the shape and didn't chuck it.
Having DC as an option this season would have been interesting due to his work rate. Ojo has been a bad signing, not delivered at all.
 

supersonic

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League's done. It's over. Celtic will win this league by double figures in April.

That second half performance from all concerned was diabolical. Not a single pass mark. Not a single player wanting it enough. Too busy fannying about to kill the game off.

There isn't a supporter on here who will be fooled by the calvary charge at 80 minutes when it's 1-1. There isn't a supporter on here who wasn't screaming for a change before hand when we were losing every single loose and second ball in the middle of the park.

Mentally ? This team don't have it post winter break. The serious stuff starts and we absolutely cave in. Meanwhile the Yahoos have a nice wee procession of 3, 4 and 5 goal humpings against the same set of teams we're toiling against. Watch them rack up another cricket score on Sunday at a place we routinely struggle at.

To drop two points tonight would've hurt. To lose all three from where we were at 76 minutes is unacceptable.
Do you think the managers inability to change the game also contributes to the mentality and nerves the players are feeling?
 

BrooklynBlue

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I think we need to hope gerrard is a gentleman and resigns at the end of the season. We cannot afford to sack him and his staff, while bringing in more players.
He has given us progress but just cant see him taking us the final step.

It may be boring , but we need a manager now who has been in battles at the bottom as well as at the top.
Someone in the mould of Moyes , bruce , Mclaren , allardyce etc.
As i say, folk will feign shock and horror at these names. They know how to win games though with limited players, they make teams better .
Maybe even benitez has made enough money and fancies showing gerrard how it should be done?
Rafa Benitez!?

I'm not feigning shock and horror. I am genuinely horrified by the appointment of Steve Bruce and Steve McClaren.

It's always the same worn-out names that are bandied about. What are you really expecting Sam Allardyce to do?

These managers don't know how to win games. That's why they are repeatedly sacked and out of work.
 

Ian1872

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Tynecastle , we were diabolical, especially after going 1 up .
Aberdeen, we were kicked off the park . Someone said Cosgrove had 10 fouls, another said he had 13 fouls and wasn't booked .
We are watching our players being assaulted.
Anyone stating we are ref'd fairly is at it
So if Cosgrove had been sent off, you think we would magically have played better and won the game?

Whether or not they had a striker on the pitch is unrelated to our inability in that game to create or convert any chances.
 

mark hateley

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We have a team who cant handle the pressure.

Last night was embarrassing and a sign of team that hates pressure.

Some of our best football has been this season when there has been no pressure on.

Last night we should have just sent a bottle of moet to the scum and said congratulations on your SPL title win.
 
We have far better players than every other team in the league, with the exception of celtic.

The fact the players are being out fought (as that's what it comes down to most of the time, a fight) is unacceptable.

The fact other teams have worked out exactly how the gaffer is going to set us up is also unacceptable. Change it up ffs. Look what's happened when celtic changed their tactics, other teams are totally bewildered and haven't worked them out yet.
 

NDC bear forever

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I think we need to hope gerrard is a gentleman and resigns at the end of the season. We cannot afford to sack him and his staff, while bringing in more players.
He has given us progress but just cant see him taking us the final step.

It may be boring , but we need a manager now who has been in battles at the bottom as well as at the top.
Someone in the mould of Moyes , bruce , Mclaren , allardyce etc.
As i say, folk will feign shock and horror at these names. They know how to win games though with limited players, they make teams better .
Maybe even benitez has made enough money and fancies showing gerrard how it should be done?
Moyes, Bruce, McLaren or Allardyce would be awful appointments, Allardyce maybe only one who would be okay but the other ones would be, as I said earlier, awful appointments. Benitez is a genuine world class manager, there is no way we can get him
 

steve1873

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So if Cosgrove had been sent off, you think we would magically have played better and won the game?

Whether or not they had a striker on the pitch is unrelated to our inability in that game to create or convert any chances.
I don't think there is anything magic about it. If you have 11 v 10, then the likelihood is you stand a far better chance of getting the victory.
 

Ian1872

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I don't think there is anything magic about it. If you have 11 v 10, then the likelihood is you stand a far better chance of getting the victory.
Conversely we have struggled against 10 men multiple times as they just sit deep and dont allow us any freedom and we lack the quality to break down packed defences, also evidenced in recent games when we are chasing it in the last 5 minutes.

Unfortunately I think if you're going to work on the basis that we are losing leagues because of officials and not because of weaknesses in our squad, you're going to end up stuck in perpetual disappointment.
 

Wacaktb

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League's done. It's over. Celtic will win this league by double figures in April.

That second half performance from all concerned was diabolical. Not a single pass mark. Not a single player wanting it enough. Too busy fannying about to kill the game off.

There isn't a supporter on here who will be fooled by the calvary charge at 80 minutes when it's 1-1. There isn't a supporter on here who wasn't screaming for a change before hand when we were losing every single loose and second ball in the middle of the park.

Mentally ? This team don't have it post winter break. The serious stuff starts and we absolutely cave in. Meanwhile the Yahoos have a nice wee procession of 3, 4 and 5 goal humpings against the same set of teams we're toiling against. Watch them rack up another cricket score on Sunday at a place we routinely struggle at.

To drop two points tonight would've hurt. To lose all three from where we were at 76 minutes is unacceptable.
Couldn't have put it any better myself tbh
 

Jimbo 1690

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I mentioned this earlier but another issue is that we are up against other teams who are loaded with scum supporters. Tonight we had Brophy, O'Donnell, Power, Findlay, Burke (!). They naturally want to win for Killie but by christ they also want to stick it up us and will give 110%. We should expect this so god knows why we aren't prepared for it.
Yeah and for some reason even the blue noses want to stick it to us......burke, Naismith, broadfoot lol we better not look for favours cause we ain’t getting any
 
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