Careca
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He called me a prick. I said I’ll meet you at the Louden. Not much to understand.Don't understand this keyboard hard man mentality, this is a virtual world we're in on this board ffs. A kinda FF Matrix if you will.
He called me a prick. I said I’ll meet you at the Louden. Not much to understand.Don't understand this keyboard hard man mentality, this is a virtual world we're in on this board ffs. A kinda FF Matrix if you will.
Thought so.
I can imagine your conversation is riveting as well.
With all your gum bumping about engineering on every stadium thread, that drawing you’ve spent hours on is no more than a pretty picture. I’ll try to get my neice to draw one up in crayon for your expert comment. Pity, as you could save the club millions on design fees if you could get on the works computer at lunch again.
As I said on this thread Ill be happy if the club get the extra 6000 seats at low cost with minimum disruption (not your 25000 extreme?) You are the one who brought up a month old exchange from the Edmiston thread, before this stadium announcement from the club.
I look forward to your comment when the actual works are proposed.
Spot on, this is where we are headed I am sure. Affordable and feasible.Yes, but Robertson has stated that it would be low 1000s. I'm only going on what he says. Anything is 'feasible' in terms of the possibilities. In terms of Finance - not so much. My opinion is that we'll get 5000k absolute max, probably with a lower of the pitch , seats at the back of the Govan and maybe a balcony where the tvs are.
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Id like to add my views on the stadium expansion. Id personally like to keep the pitch the same level as it is, if necessary, drop it by 1 meter, this will give enough for 2 rows, and add 1,500 to the capacity. This can be done whilst the team still play in the stadium, like what Man City did in the Ethiad when they expanded it a few years back. It will take a season to do, and the cost is only £5m or so. BUT this depends on the water table and the Clyde.
As for the removal of the TV screens, this is the long term goal. This would give 5,000 per corner in my opinion. Id like to remove the roof off of the 3 sides of the stadium and make them all the same cantilever style as above, however make the roof with screens above them, large enough for VAR decisions on them. The removal of the roof can be done whilst the team play in the stadium, this whole project would take 2 years. Whilst i was at it, id look at a study for the expansion of The Argyle Suite to wrap around the whole stadium at the level it presently is at, if it cannot be done, leave The Argyle Suite the same, but try and include them in the corners only, but make them multi purpose where they can be made into a TV studio. Reason for the multi purpose element, we need to get the stadium into being used for a Europa League or Champions League Final.
The one other thing id look at is a remote entry for the away section, where there is a series of tunnels, leading to where they come in from their away bus parking. This would significantly make the policing easier and more simple. This would be a selling point to the planners. Id also like to demolish the Edmonton Suite at the rear of the Copland Road and replace that place with a new Rangers store and a ticket office. It would also be the start, or possibly end of the Ibrox Stadium Tour accessible via another tunnel.
As for finances, in todays market, id set aside £75m, maybe even £80m, it could even cost a eye watering £100m if someone was milking it somewhere. As for the business model, we need to look at a new business model, cap season tickets at 55,000, of a total capacity of maybe 62,000. If season ticket prices where an average of £450 per season for that figure, it would be just short £25m, and with the 7,000 tickets available for each league game, you would get another maybe £3m for that. Include a European campaign, that's a easy £10m in ticket sales. If we paid the debt of that off over 10 years, say £8m a year, it could be achievable to pay it off in that time. We wouldn't want naming rights, as Liverpool didn't take naming rights, they just got successful and paid their £85m main stand expansion off in 3 years in Premier League terms. And we wouldn't have to move out of Ibrox, if we could get a reversal of fixtures from the SPFL until the September international break on the completion of the stadium.
The problems would be egress to the stadium, as the Subway wouldn't cope, we would need a Ibrox Rail Station. This would be a hard sell to Network Rail, but id offer to pay towards this development, for a basic station this would cost £3.6m on 2016 figures. Today, this would be maybe another £6m cost, and if we went half on this, it may help. Also the purchase of 4-5 properties would stand in my plans, this would be a significant cost. Also the lack of a proper fan area wouldn't be great.
Ive always dreamt that if i had the money, and i mean Elon Musk levels of cash, id buy the bloody club and get our ship in order, and do a £550m expansion and modernisation of the stadium, whilst giving Steven a health wedge of cash to stay competitive on the park.
I have optimism that what ever way is chosen, getting even 54,000 into the stadium will help.
For me we should try to fill in the corners. If that isn't doable then just spend money doing up what we already have.
For me we should try to fill in the corners. If that isn't doable then just spend money doing up what we already have.
Think it was looked into in 2011 so would bet that the cost have went up massively since thenWasn't that already looked into and would cost to much for little return ?
Wasn't that already looked into and would cost to much for little return ?
Think it was looked into in 2011 so would bet that the cost have went up massively since then
Jesus Christ mate .
Yeah although heard that could cause issue with the water board so who knows hahaYeah i thought so. On tour one of the guides say they was talk about lowering the pitch again
I remember Murray saying he was going to hang TVs from the Club deck roof back in the dayWe can't see the screens from the top of the Club Deck so they can go as far as I'm concerned. If I can't see a replay I don't see why anyone else should. Selfish Loyal.
One good thing he done was Murray park that set us apart from the restI remember Murray saying he was going to hang TVs from the Club deck roof back in the day
To be fair, oxygen masks that drop down like in an airliner would be better to help you get your breath back after the climb up the stairs lolI remember Murray saying he was going to hang TVs from the Club deck roof back in the day
Is that where the leather seats are ?To be fair, oxygen masks that drop down like in an airliner would be better to help you get your breath back after the climb up the stairs lol
Knowing rangers it won’tGrest news really hope this comes to fruition!
Yeah true although the club don’t treat it as a waiting the list if you don’t get offered any and it’s a free for allWith the waiting list we have, it’s a no brained if it can be done.
With a proper squad, board and management team now in place, things like this will only benefit us in the long run, especially financially.
Dunno mate, but there's a standing and smoking section and a bring your own bottle policyIs that where the leather seats are ?
Yeah although heard that could cause issue with the water board so who knows haha
It’s a balancing act I suppose don’t want to leave ourself skint but also want to set up for the futureWould love for this to go ahead, the corners filled in completely would look unreal.
Yeah I’m sure they’ve got guys who know what they’re talking aboutYeah he also said whatever the problem was has been fixed, so was an option depeading on cost
Yeah I’m sure they’ve got guys who know what they’re talking about
Think that was in the plans when the super casino was getting talked aboutTotally, would like to see something like MK dons. With the hotel built into a stand, but the cost would be high
Think that was in the plans when the super casino was getting talked about
Yeah because govan needs hotel spaceTotally, would like to see something like MK dons. With the hotel built into a stand, but the cost would be high
A hotel there would imo be very successfulYeah because govan needs hotel space
That was because Dick Advocaat insisted on us having proper training facilities.One good thing he done was Murray park that set us apart from the rest
Safe standing in both enclosures, move the fan groups there, move the TV gantry to the Govan.