Archive The Winter 2021/22 Rangers Transfer Window Rumours and Deals - Thread

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ill be disappointed if we unveil souttar at the last minute an our business is done, we know we're getting him, but we really need a RW who starts. Easier said than done i know but this is why RW , GVB and the scouts get paid decent coin. Holding midfield wise i would be happy to go to May with lundstram as cover, he isnt as bad as made out an if we can keep davis fit an get jack back (i know i know) then he would be used sparingly anyway.
 
Just watched a very good segment on sky sports. They were interviewing a football agent who mentioned that if any club in the UK wants to buy a player from abroad it will take around 48hrs to get their work permit due to us being outside the EU. This will then scupper any last min deals we try and get done with players overseas unless we are willing to see what happens with the work permits
 
Serious questions would need to be asked of Ross Wilson if we again, fail to strengthen our first 11 in this window. The second window in a row we are seeing zero improvement at a very critical time.
I don't get why the blame would all be on Wilson. Gerrard had a budget in the summer and blew the majority of it on John Lundstram then the minute we went out to Malmo it was obvious that would be our business done unless we could sell a player to generate funds. We only received a bid for Patterson in the summer which was knocked back. With the losses the club has been making during covid as well it was obvious the spending would be reigned in and that's what happened in the summer that's not on Ross Wilson.

We have no idea how much money is available to Wilson/Gio in this window but expecting all of the Patterson cash and Gerrard leaving money to be available is a total dream world. We have a first team squad as it stands of 28/29 players it's too big as is the wage bill so again for all we know the board could be reluctant to allow anymore players in.

We all want a right winger and another attacking midfielder but for all we know as well Gio could be happy with what he's got which he appears to be.
 
Just watched a very good segment on sky sports. They were interviewing a football agent who mentioned that if any club in the UK wants to buy a player from abroad it will take around 48hrs to get their work permit due to us being outside the EU. This will then scupper any last min deals we try and get done with players overseas unless we are willing to see what happens with the work permits
Scotland is a bit different from England in that respect. Easier to get one up here
 
Barker
Jones
Ofoborh
Simpson
Polster

We always seem intent on wasting wages on average players instead of actually improving the team.

Should be first team quality from now on, Ross Wilson. No more squad fillers.
 
About a third of the posts already are people getting their knickers in a twist that they're not seeing any activity or rumours or sightings of planes landing from Amsterdam. It's like nobody here has ever experienced a transfer window before, much less a January one.

Over 50% of the business gets done in the final 24-48 hours, everyone should know that by now.

Calm doon ffs.
 
Barker
Jones
Ofoborh
Simpson
Polster

We always seem intent on wasting wages on average players instead of actually improving the team.

Should be first team quality from now on, Ross Wilson. No more squad fillers.
He had nothing to do with the signings of Barker Jones or Polster. Ofoborh a bit harsh as well given he hasn't even kicked a ball yet.
 
Barker
Jones
Ofoborh
Simpson
Polster

We always seem intent on wasting wages on average players instead of actually improving the team.

Should be first team quality from now on, Ross Wilson. No more squad fillers.

Harsh on the guy with the life and career threatening heart defect..
 
Very harsh on Ofoborh.
It’s not his fault.

The club should be picking up a heart defect in a medical. Now we’re picking up a guys wage for the next 4 years who most likely won’t ever play football again.

I get that it sounds harsh but it’s the type of pissing money down the drain that’s get on my nerves. We need to be much more astute in our transfer business.
 
It’s not his fault.

The club should be picking up a heart defect in a medical. Now we’re picking up a guys wage for the next 4 years who most likely won’t ever play football again.

I get that it sounds harsh but it’s the type of pissing money down the drain that’s get on my nerves. We need to be much more astute in our transfer business.
What if the heart thing never showed up untill after his medical?
 
Barker
Jones
Ofoborh
Simpson
Polster

We always seem intent on wasting wages on average players instead of actually improving the team.

Should be first team quality from now on, Ross Wilson. No more squad fillers.

How can you know that a player is going to be a guaranteed success before you sign them?
If a player is obviously that good then how do you compete will all the other clubs who will be also trying to sign them?

When we signed Aribo, for example, he had just helped Charlton out of League One in England so not exactly playing at the highest level and it still took him a while to get going with us.

Right now, first team quality is probably signings that will cost at least 5 million or guys who are out of contract (which will mean they are looking for higher wages).

How is it possible that after everything we've been through since 2012 and the downsizing that was already taking place from about 2003 through to 2011 that we still have supporters who think we are going to be going out there and signing players that will be a guaranteed and spectacular success? Basically every single signing we make is a gamble. Guys who aren't good enough for the top leagues but who might be able to do a job in Scotland but who really knows until they get here. We aren't going to have a time when it's guys like Laudrup, Gazza, De Boer etc coming into the club and having massive and instant success.

Tav, Barisic, Goldson, Aribo, Kamara, Hagi, Kent and Morelos all had their spells of inconsistency with us and all needed some time to grow into the players they are just now. The ones you listed are just those who couldn't take their chance.
 
It’s not his fault.

The club should be picking up a heart defect in a medical. Now we’re picking up a guys wage for the next 4 years who most likely won’t ever play football again.

I get that it sounds harsh but it’s the type of pissing money down the drain that’s get on my nerves. We need to be much more astute in our transfer business.
That is nonsense, a lot of heart conditions are hard to trace without seeing specialists and having specific tests done which are far beyond the scope of a football medical.
 
It’s not his fault.

The club should be picking up a heart defect in a medical. Now we’re picking up a guys wage for the next 4 years who most likely won’t ever play football again.

I get that it sounds harsh but it’s the type of pissing money down the drain that’s get on my nerves. We need to be much more astute in our transfer business.
We won't be paying full wages the insurance company will be paying the majority of it.
 
Anything is better than nothing I suppose. Sounds like he’s happy to run his contract down though.
It would be but he is definitely just happy to be one of those players picking up a wage he will never see the likes of again, must have thought all his Christmases came at once when 10k (if rumours are true) was offered, nowhere near rangers quality.
 
How can you know that a player is going to be a guaranteed success before you sign them?
If a player is obviously that good then how do you compete will all the other clubs who will be also trying to sign them?

When we signed Aribo, for example, he had just helped Charlton out of League One in England so not exactly playing at the highest level and it still took him a while to get going with us.

Right now, first team quality is probably signings that will cost at least 5 million or guys who are out of contract (which will mean they are looking for higher wages).

How is it possible that after everything we've been through since 2012 and the downsizing that was already taking place from about 2003 through to 2011 that we still have supporters who think we are going to be going out there and signing players that will be a guaranteed and spectacular success? Basically every single signing we make is a gamble. Guys who aren't good enough for the top leagues but who might be able to do a job in Scotland but who really knows until they get here. We aren't going to have a time when it's guys like Laudrup, Gazza, De Boer etc coming into the club and having massive and instant success.

Tav, Barisic, Goldson, Aribo, Kamara, Hagi, Kent and Morelos all had their spells of inconsistency with us and all needed some time to grow into the players they are just now. The ones you listed are just those who couldn't take their chance.
Aribo was a marquee signing.

There was question marks raised when we signed Ofoborh and Simpson who couldn’t get a game for Bournemouth.
 
Barker
Jones
Ofoborh
Simpson
Polster

We always seem intent on wasting wages on average players instead of actually improving the team.

Should be first team quality from now on, Ross Wilson. No more squad fillers.

lol so we should have a squad of 25 first team players….how would that work out financially?

Reality is you have to have cheap back up options.

Hopefully that will soon be our own youth players
 
It’s not his fault.

The club should be picking up a heart defect in a medical. Now we’re picking up a guys wage for the next 4 years who most likely won’t ever play football again.

I get that it sounds harsh but it’s the type of pissing money down the drain that’s get on my nerves. We need to be much more astute in our transfer business.
Isn't that why we - presumably - have insurance?

And who's to say the defect was detectable at a medical in any case?
 
That is nonsense, a lot of heart conditions are hard to trace without seeing specialists and having specific tests done which are far beyond the scope of a football medical.
It was the club doctors that traced the heart issue just a month after he signed.

Gerrard said the players have a medical after the player signs as well. I assume we will be doing thorough heart checks from now on to avoid it from happening again.
 
lol so we should have a squad of 25 first team players….how would that work out financially?

Reality is you have to have cheap back up options.

Hopefully that will soon be our own youth players
No.

For example, Balogun is a good player and is backup in normal circumstances when Helander is fit.

Barker is just pish. No other way of putting it. You can have better backups who aren’t at first team level.

File Simpson next to Barker btw.
 
It would be but he is definitely just happy to be one of those players picking up a wage he will never see the likes of again, must have thought all his Christmases came at once when 10k (if rumours are true) was offered, nowhere near rangers quality.
100% extremely strange transfer to say the least. Of course he’s going to milk it as he will end up on 2-3k a week maximum.
 
It was the club doctors that traced the heart issue just a month after he signed.

Gerrard said the players have a medical after the player signs as well. I assume we will be doing thorough heart checks from now on to avoid it from happening again.
The club doctors traced it later on because the symptoms he had probably narrowed it down, who's to even say it was causing him an issue at the time of the medical. They don't do stuff like CTs and echos at medicals which are sometimes necessary to identify any condition.
 
Serious questions would need to be asked of Ross Wilson if we again, fail to strengthen our first 11 in this window. The second window in a row we are seeing zero improvement at a very critical time.
He can only invest with what he's given by the board. There's more to it than simply buying the players.
 
Aribo was a marquee signing.

There was question marks raised when we signed Ofoborh and Simpson who couldn’t get a game for Bournemouth.
Ofoborh wasn't even getting a start at Wycombe last season where he was on loan.

Really hope the lad makes a recovery but can't see him being a big player.

Compare him to Aribo at Charlton he was a regular and they were gutted to lose him.
 
It’s not his fault.

The club should be picking up a heart defect in a medical. Now we’re picking up a guys wage for the next 4 years who most likely won’t ever play football again.

I get that it sounds harsh but it’s the type of pissing money down the drain that’s get on my nerves. We need to be much more astute in our transfer business.

Our record with transfers in the last 3 or 4 seasons is amazing. Better than it's ever been at Rangers, I'd argue.

What sort of hit rate are you expecting when you make this criticism, out of curiosity? Every club has plenty of transfers that don't work out.
 
A club would take him on loan for the last 6 months but we'd still have to pay a chunk of his wage
For any club willing to play Barker, and for him to actually do well at that level of club.

They won't be able to afford any of his wage in truth.

Might need to bite the bullet and pay 90% of it.
 
No.

For example, Balogun is a good player and is backup in normal circumstances when Helander is fit.

Barker is just pish. No other way of putting it. You can have better backups who aren’t at first team level.

File Simpson next to Barker btw.

It's obvious now that Barker and Simpson are not going to end up becoming important players at Rangers. That's fair enough to point out.

Barker played for England at Under 18, 19 and 20 levels. Was Man City's academy player of the year in 2014 and made an appearance for their first team. In 2019, on paper, he would look like a decent prospect.

Simpson has an England under 21 cap and had spent his entire career at a Premiership club building up his number of appearances each season. Again a decent looking prospect on paper. Similar to Balogun and Goldson in terms of what he was doing a season or two before he came to us but he's a younger player.

It would be brilliant if we could find ourselves another Jelavic or Aluko or Morelos or Kent but the reality of finding those hidden gems is that you have to take a gamble and a lot of times it doesn't pay off.

If it was as easy as just signing players on a budget who happen to actually be exactly what we needed and hit the ground running and perform consistently then every club in the world would just do that. Look at far bigger clubs with better scouting and better coaches and huge budgets and look at all the money they waste on guys that just don't get the job done.
 
We 100% need a quality signing! A first team player, either a good CM or good winger: this team looks lethargic! Still can’t get my head around how poor we were against Aberdeen when we had a two week break! Us and breaks do not mix! %^*& it scrap the summer break and play every week
 
I would honestly be gutted. I feel we are crying out for a right sided attacker and have been for a while. None of our current squad play well enough on a consistent basis.

I understand our transfer analysts have lists of potential players for every position so if one is not available a player of equivalent quality should still be able to be found, surely?

There could a myriad of reasons why we’re not buying in a player now, a lot of them outwith our control.

The idea that we’re not searching or Wilson isn’t doing his job seems nonsense. But some just want a person to blame.
 
He’s going nowhere until he’s out of contract. I was told on Friday that nobody, including Oxford who he went to last year on loan, is interested in him.
No wonder. His performance against Stirling was shocking. He was basically hiding at times and I'm convinced he made himself look injured to get subbed. I can see him leaving once his contract expires and not getting another club
 
It's obvious now that Barker and Simpson are not going to end up becoming important players at Rangers. That's fair enough to point out.

Barker played for England at Under 18, 19 and 20 levels. Was Man City's academy player of the year in 2014 and made an appearance for their first team. In 2019, on paper, he would look like a decent prospect.

Simpson has an England under 21 cap and had spent his entire career at a Premiership club building up his number of appearances each season. Again a decent looking prospect on paper. Similar to Balogun and Goldson in terms of what he was doing a season or two before he came to us but he's a younger player.

It would be brilliant if we could find ourselves another Jelavic or Aluko or Morelos or Kent but the reality of finding those hidden gems is that you have to take a gamble and a lot of times it doesn't pay off.

If it was as easy as just signing players on a budget who happen to actually be exactly what we needed and hit the ground running and perform consistently then every club in the world would just do that. Look at far bigger clubs with better scouting and better coaches and huge budgets and look at all the money they waste on guys that just don't get the job done.
Simpson made 35 appearances in 6 seasons with Bournemouth by the age of 24 before joining us that's a terrible statistic so I don't get what you mean by building up his numbers he's barely played any meaningful Football in his career.

One of our most baffling signings tbh.
 
Ofoborh wasn't even getting a start at Wycombe last season where he was on loan.

Really hope the lad makes a recovery but can't see him being a big player.

Compare him to Aribo at Charlton he was a regular and they were gutted to lose him.
He was injured and then asked not to be played so it didn't aggravate it further putting his move to us in jeopardy.
 
Ofoborh wasn't even getting a start at Wycombe last season where he was on loan.

Really hope the lad makes a recovery but can't see him being a big player.

Compare him to Aribo at Charlton he was a regular and they were gutted to lose him.
Pretty sure he was injured at Wycombe mate. Think his first spell there was more impressive.
 
Our record with transfers in the last 3 or 4 seasons is amazing. Better than it's ever been at Rangers, I'd argue.

What sort of hit rate are you expecting when you make this criticism, out of curiosity? Every club has plenty of transfers that don't work out.
Any club that gets their recruitment better than 50% is doing very well.
 
Our record with transfers in the last 3 or 4 seasons is amazing. Better than it's ever been at Rangers, I'd argue.

What sort of hit rate are you expecting when you make this criticism, out of curiosity? Every club has plenty of transfers that don't work out.
Last few seasons haven’t been great.

As I said, we’ve signed a lot of shite.

Bacuna, Ofoborh, Lundstram, Simpson, Hastie, Jones, Barker. All avoidable signings.

I still find the Ofoborh and Simpson pre-contract signings the most baffling. Whoever sanctioned those signings needs sectioned.

Then you have the likes of Itten, who hasn’t been poor by any stretch, but just isn’t good enough for the £2.5m we spent.
 
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I'm working in Birmingham and the chat among villa fans is they are after a centre back and Connor goldson is one they will move for of the other falls through.

They see him as a last resort this window
 
Some random Croatian website saying we might be interested in Robert Muric of Rijeka. I'll leave this to the opinion of the anoraks who could tell us about 19 year old playing in Slovenian 3rd division.
 
Heart defect or not, Ofoborh was a cheap punt that was always going to be a waste of money like Simpson.
Kamara was a cheap punt who did work out. Tav was a cheap punt who worked out. Windass was a cheap punt who, while he wasn't a world beater, made us a great profit. Cheap punts happen and we've made a lot of profit on them either by transfer fees or players being key in our European and league success.

I have no problem with signing a few players on bosmans and hoping we can develop them, my problem is the £3m on Itten. The £35k a week on Lundstram. Big money signings we'd expect to be key first team players, but have turned out to not only not improve the starting 11, but barely get any minutes from the bench. That's where the criticism should be, although the Barker one was especially poor, but that was a Mark Allen signing iirc.

It's frustrating, but it's not the cheap punts who ruin our finances.
 
I'm working in Birmingham and the chat among villa fans is they are after a centre back and Connor goldson is one they will move for of the other falls through.

They see him as a last resort this window
I live in Birmingham and the only newspaper I've seen reporting Goldson to Villa is the Scottish Sun.

Some of my mates are Villa season ticket holders and they've heard nothing about Goldson either.

I'm not saying that your Villa mates are wrong, but I've heard absolutely nothing myself.
 
It would be best for Barker if we offer him some sort of leave-package if no-one shows up till the end of the window. Being with us won`t help him, nor us.

As for Goldson, should he decide to leave, it would be "most diplomatic" to give "family reasons", not least to keep people off his back. One day we`ll probably learn the truth about the whole situation, as it stands, it`s a hotbed for unwanted speculation.
 
Incredible we've descended to talking about moving on Barker and how much of his wages we'd need to pay if he went on loan.:rolleyes: If his loan club paid half his wages from now until the end of his contract we'd be saving circa £100k. If they pay a quarter of his wages we save about £50k. Hardly changes anything we do at the Club or in the transfer market.
 
Kamara was a cheap punt who did work out. Tav was a cheap punt who worked out. Windass was a cheap punt who, while he wasn't a world beater, made us a great profit. Cheap punts happen and we've made a lot of profit on them either by transfer fees or players being key in our European and league success.

I have no problem with signing a few players on bosmans and hoping we can develop them, my problem is the £3m on Itten. The £35k a week on Lundstram. Big money signings we'd expect to be key first team players, but have turned out to not only not improve the starting 11, but barely get any minutes from the bench. That's where the criticism should be, although the Barker one was especially poor, but that was a Mark Allen signing iirc.

It's frustrating, but it's not the cheap punts who ruin our finances.
That’s totally different though.

Anyone with a pair of eyes could see Kamara was a proper baller.

Same with Aribo.

Who was actually excited at the prospect of getting Simpson and Ofoborh in the door?
 
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