Not for me. It’s embarrassing.Just a song mate, chillax.
Well in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
We are singing songs about WW1? Not having thatWell in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
We’re coming down the road? A song about the UVF going to fight in France during WW1 and it’s regularly sung at Ibrox?We are singing songs about WW1? Not having that
Yup. That's why UVF is sung today...Well in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
The uvf and in particular the 36th Ulster division ( part of the army ) fought in WW1 to defend our country . I for one will always honour themA massive gripe and moan from me.
For the army and the navy and the uvf
WHY???
This weekend brought it to a head for me.
On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the RAF but we sang about the army, navy and uvf....why?
Annoys the hell out of me.
We’re coming down the road? A song about the UVF going to fight in France during WW1 and it’s regularly sung at Ibrox?
There we have it folks.As someone who served for 32 years in the Royal Air Force I’m with @Papasmurf on this one. I think folks are hiding behind the WW1 thing if I’m honest.
Always felt a bit left out when my branch of the Armed Forces was missed out.
Why? Genuine questionAwaiting comments from Installer and Slim Jim...
Well in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
A massive gripe and moan from me.
For the army and the navy and the uvf
WHY???
This weekend brought it to a head for me.
On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the RAF but we sang about the army, navy and uvf....why?
Annoys the hell out of me.
Well in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
Plenty other army regiments who could be directly referenced. The fact that it is only one, consistently, with links to something else, tells all that is needed about it.
Because some people still think its cool. The politics in football does my head inA massive gripe and moan from me.
For the army and the navy and the uvf
WHY???
This weekend brought it to a head for me.
On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the RAF but we sang about the army, navy and uvf....why?
Annoys the hell out of me.
The uvf and in particular the 36th Ulster division ( part of the army ) fought in WW1 to defend our country . I for one will always honour them
Did you tell those around you singing it to shut up?Not for me. It’s embarrassing.
Did you tell those around you singing it to shut up?
Who said it’s sectarian?Here comes the folk who claim to have never sang these songs. I don’t see why folk have a gripe with it, it’s celebrating the culture of Northern Ireland and a lot of folk are forgetting how many Ulster Scots migrated to Scotland and particularly Glasgow and the surrounding area. Is it sectarian? No.
The Ulster Volunteer Force played a pivotal role within the British Army during WW1.
I asked those sitting near you..No. It’s not easy to tell 10k or what ever to shut it.
Anything constructive to add?Oh goody another post avout the song book .. it duznae belong at Ibrox
Yadda yadda yadda
Ub are to blame...
Only missing comments from the usual suspects but im pretty sure 1 or 2 will be along soon...
See posts 16 & 23.Awaiting comments from Installer and Slim Jim...
The RAF of today had little to no involvement in WW1. The Royal Flying Corps were encompassed in the Army and the RAF was founded in April 1918.Who said it’s sectarian?
On the pitch we had the army, the navy and the raf. But we cheered the army, the navy and the uvf.
It’s not tough to get why some might not like it? Shirley
I asked those sitting near you..
The UVF never took part in WW1. It was set up and organised as a para- military organisation. WW1 came around and like millions of young Britons the members of the UVF joined the British Army. Most went into regiments such as The Royal Irish Rifles and Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers as part of the 36th ( Ulster ) Division.The uvf and in particular the 36th Ulster division ( part of the army ) fought in WW1 to defend our country . I for one will always honour them
Well your on here moaning... surely if you were at the game and ones around you werr singing uvf you would have told them a few home truths..... this is just another thread that will be filled with people using it to beat the ub and other fans with a stick about songs...No I didn’t.
Should I have?
The 36th division was only put together so quickly because Carson had already raised an army. That army was the UVFThe UVF never took part in WW1. It was set up and organised as a para- military organisation. WW1 came around and like millions of young Britons the members of the UVF joined the British Army. Most went into regiments such as The Royal Irish Rifles and Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers as part of the 36th ( Ulster ) Division.
The 36th Division was renouned for its bravery, not only on the first day of the Somme but for the remainder of this battle and until 1918.
But so were many Scottish Divisions, the 15th and 51st Divisions fought equally as well as the 36th and were decimated at battles such as Loos and Third Ypres. Both these divisions were around 85% protestant and would have contained many Rangers men.
Why dont we sing about these heroes as well.
many orangemen died in ww1 and ww2 but seemly to some on here, who think there important.. we have nothing to do with the OO and should stop singing these songsThe UVF never took part in WW1. It was set up and organised as a para- military organisation. WW1 came around and like millions of young Britons the members of the UVF joined the British Army. Most went into regiments such as The Royal Irish Rifles and Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers as part of the 36th ( Ulster ) Division.
The 36th Division was renouned for its bravery, not only on the first day of the Somme but for the remainder of this battle and until 1918.
But so were many Scottish Divisions, the 15th and 51st Divisions fought equally as well as the 36th and were decimated at battles such as Loos and Third Ypres. Both these divisions were around 85% protestant and would have contained many Rangers men.
Why dont we sing about these heroes as well.
I’ve not mentioned the Union bears.Well your on here moaning... surely if you were at the game and ones around you werr singing uvf you would have told them a few home truths..... this is just another thread that will be filled with people using it to beat the ub and other fans with a stick about songs...
You miss the point. I was replying to the the poster who said the UVF fought in WW1. Members of the UVF fought under the auspices of the British Army.The 36th division was only put together so quickly because Carson had already raised an army. That army was the UVF
That's the same excuse as the poets with their IRA pissWell in WW1 it was the army, the navy and the uvf were also considered as part of the home defence more so in Northern Ireland as the RAF weren’t about until the end of the war.
Members of the IRA fought against our country. Members of the UVF at that time fought for our country. Huge difference and that’s a really poor way to class men who died for our country. Comparing them to terrorists who took advantage of our country being at war is horrificThat's the same excuse as the poets with their IRA piss