Rangerista
Well-Known Member
Where exactly is the elephant?
Who is giving Goldson “dogs abuse” !? He’s been poor the majority of the season yet he is beyond reproach yet our best performing centre half is sent to the stand with a trackie on and that’s ok. %^*& me.
Discuss it, I assumed he was injured?
He has been nowhere remotely close to being poor.
The new FF whipping boy, a position reserved for any centre half who gets picked ahead of Katic.
Folk need to realise adults can enjoy the result whilst still wishing to discuss other aspects of the game.
I thought Goldson was fine tonight albeit he gave me a couple of nervy moments. But fans are quite right to be concerned that the inevitable finally happened and the big man was dropped after consecutive poor games, something which will seemingly never happen with his partner. Trot out every excuse in the book, it doesn’t send the right message.
I thought Jack was totally immense tonight.The only thing I took from that OP was that Jack has just had a knee problem yet played superbly for 90mns.
So what a crowd and what an apt result for a tribute to Fernando!
Barisic was immense tonight, he didn’t pull out the challenge which led to our goal.....I hope his goal and now this type of performance is seeing him grow into that shirt!
Helander.....Yes please.....what a game he had!
Jack coming back from his knee complaint straight into the heat of that battle alongside Davis.....solid as hell!!!
McGregor.....an absolute brick wall!!
Now the elephants....
Goldson should never have been chosen over Katic.....I’ve said it before and the poll on FF has demonstrated it too.....Katic is by far the better of those two & Gerrard needs to rest Goldson for a bit and try and different combination with Helander.
Tavernier he can’t be on the pens now...2 already missed this season and at this level misses like that could be costly....he’s a lucky lad tonight that we got away with that miss.
Ojo....what a strike....the lad could not have hit that any cleaner.....however the rest of the game he was way below par....both with his final ball and his defensive tracking back....he looked so lackadaisical at times it was sorely frustrating!!!
Overall as a team we need to be far more clinical with the chances we create, at this level and to be league champions we need to be ruthless middle to front and thus far we haven’t seen that streak to our game!
3 points to start though but a missed opportunity to bag some goals to help put us in top spot!
Great result in the end and nice tribute from Ojo to dedicate his goal to Fernando and his family.
I enjoyed the victory as much as the next man....you can bet your bottom dollar Gerrard and the coaching team will be all over the footage of our game tomorrow expressing opinions on where we let ourselves down and could have been better....Morelos as an example was immense but they will look at his final decision making at times where he shoots instead of lifting his head and looking for a better option and give him that feedback.
If you’ve played or understand the game you know a growth mindset as opposed to a fixed mindset is what separates Great players like Gerrard to everyday journeymen it’s about looking at how you get better and being driven to learn.....you improve by having a learn it all approach more than a know it all approach....in any aspect of life!
My points are merely highlighting my opinion on where I think we can grow and improve and I very much doubt Gerrard and his team will only be back slapping the team privately throughout tomorrow.
Our defence has just had a shut out against a top Dutch team, who have a very highly rated striker and you want to have a pop at one of our central defenders?
Gerrard and his coaching staff work with the players every day, but you know better?
Thank %^*& the manager picks the team and not you.
We have 4 excellent central defenders and Gerrard thankfully chose the right 2 tonight, as the scoreline proved.
Who’s to say we wouldn’t have gotten a clean sheet with Helander and Katic though? I thought Goldson had some rocky moments tonight certain posters would have went to town on Katic for.
I get that the gaffer works with the players regularly, but that was still the case when he was picking Worral too and no one can convince me that wasn’t just daft, and when he had that OF selection, can anyone really say it was justified. Great to get the win but I’d be lying if I said the favouritism shown to Goldson didn’t irritate me, as I said previously it it sends out the wrong message too, and I think the big man will rightly feel hard done, bombed out on a big euro night after helping us to the group stage for the second year running.
Playing certain players because of a Thursday night poll on FF? Think you’re on the bevy mateSo what a crowd and what an apt result for a tribute to Fernando!
Barisic was immense tonight, he didn’t pull out the challenge which led to our goal.....I hope his goal and now this type of performance is seeing him grow into that shirt!
Helander.....Yes please.....what a game he had!
Jack coming back from his knee complaint straight into the heat of that battle alongside Davis.....solid as hell!!!
McGregor.....an absolute brick wall!!
Now the elephants....
Goldson should never have been chosen over Katic.....I’ve said it before and the poll on FF has demonstrated it too.....Katic is by far the better of those two & Gerrard needs to rest Goldson for a bit and try and different combination with Helander.
Tavernier he can’t be on the pens now...2 already missed this season and at this level misses like that could be costly....he’s a lucky lad tonight that we got away with that miss.
Ojo....what a strike....the lad could not have hit that any cleaner.....however the rest of the game he was way below par....both with his final ball and his defensive tracking back....he looked so lackadaisical at times it was sorely frustrating!!!
Overall as a team we need to be far more clinical with the chances we create, at this level and to be league champions we need to be ruthless middle to front and thus far we haven’t seen that streak to our game!
3 points to start though but a missed opportunity to bag some goals to help put us in top spot!
Great result in the end and nice tribute from Ojo to dedicate his goal to Fernando and his family.
I'm not on here to criticise Katic mate, but equally I'm not going to have a Goldson witch hunt either, particularly after a clean sheet against a top team who'd plenty possession.
The manager called it right tonight.
I like Niko, but clearly Gerrard thought Goldson and Helander was the best partnership for tonight's game.
Anyone questioning that has their own agenda.
I don’t agree with the last part though. I think people are entitled to question it given the respective form of the two players going back into last season. I think results like 3 weeks ago also show that just because the gaffer said so doesn’t necessarily mean he’s right.
It’s great to get a win and we can’t have many complaints tonight in light of that, but on a personal level I’m gutted for Katic because the reality is he’s been a better defender than Goldson this season and was always going to be the victim of the Helander signing because he’s not the gaffers favourite and he obviously has a blindspot where certain players are concerned.
Im not sure Tav was thinking about the fact he was wearing the number 2 shirt during that match!Although Tav missed the penalty,this was about more than just a spot kick for us.Was gutted for him,the pressure of being Captain and Number 2 took its toll.
Tav on pens for me
He missed cos he needed a dump? WTFAlthough Tav missed the penalty,this was about more than just a spot kick for us.Was gutted for him,the pressure of being Captain and Number 2 took its toll.
Tav on pens for me
So what a crowd and what an apt result for a tribute to Fernando!
Barisic was immense tonight, he didn’t pull out the challenge which led to our goal.....I hope his goal and now this type of performance is seeing him grow into that shirt!
Helander.....Yes please.....what a game he had!
Jack coming back from his knee complaint straight into the heat of that battle alongside Davis.....solid as hell!!!
McGregor.....an absolute brick wall!!
Now the elephants....
Goldson should never have been chosen over Katic.....I’ve said it before and the poll on FF has demonstrated it too.....Katic is by far the better of those two & Gerrard needs to rest Goldson for a bit and try and different combination with Helander.
Tavernier he can’t be on the pens now...2 already missed this season and at this level misses like that could be costly....he’s a lucky lad tonight that we got away with that miss.
Ojo....what a strike....the lad could not have hit that any cleaner.....however the rest of the game he was way below par....both with his final ball and his defensive tracking back....he looked so lackadaisical at times it was sorely frustrating!!!
Overall as a team we need to be far more clinical with the chances we create, at this level and to be league champions we need to be ruthless middle to front and thus far we haven’t seen that streak to our game!
3 points to start though but a missed opportunity to bag some goals to help put us in top spot!
Great result in the end and nice tribute from Ojo to dedicate his goal to Fernando and his family.
So what a crowd and what an apt result for a tribute to Fernando!
Barisic was immense tonight, he didn’t pull out the challenge which led to our goal.....I hope his goal and now this type of performance is seeing him grow into that shirt!
Helander.....Yes please.....what a game he had!
Jack coming back from his knee complaint straight into the heat of that battle alongside Davis.....solid as hell!!!
McGregor.....an absolute brick wall!!
Now the elephants....
Goldson should never have been chosen over Katic.....I’ve said it before and the poll on FF has demonstrated it too.....Katic is by far the better of those two & Gerrard needs to rest Goldson for a bit and try and different combination with Helander.
Tavernier he can’t be on the pens now...2 already missed this season and at this level misses like that could be costly....he’s a lucky lad tonight that we got away with that miss.
Ojo....what a strike....the lad could not have hit that any cleaner.....however the rest of the game he was way below par....both with his final ball and his defensive tracking back....he looked so lackadaisical at times it was sorely frustrating!!!
Overall as a team we need to be far more clinical with the chances we create, at this level and to be league champions we need to be ruthless middle to front and thus far we haven’t seen that streak to our game!
3 points to start though but a missed opportunity to bag some goals to help put us in top spot!
Great result in the end and nice tribute from Ojo to dedicate his goal to Fernando and his family.
What is clear is that despite putting in some stellar defensive performances recently, Gerrard has reservations about Katic, and if asked to choose between him and Goldson, he will usually go with the later.
Tav trying to place his penalty out of reach of the goalie tells me he’s far from confident.. He normally puts them away easily .. time for a change
I know. It’s really hard to tell them apart, isn’t it?I really do not rate Ojo at all and when I saw the goal again I'm thinking Konterman!
I still am, op yet a loonI FUCKING LOVED IT
Apart from getting caught out when ball was played in behind him numerous times again tonight then nothing I guessWhat was it Goldson did wrong tonight?
He had a brutal 15 minute period to start the 2nd half but he was good the rest of the time. As much as i like Katic the crowd that think he never makes mistakes or has poor games are annoyingWhat was it Goldson did wrong tonight?
Zzzzzx.So what a crowd and what an apt result for a tribute to Fernando!
Barisic was immense tonight, he didn’t pull out the challenge which led to our goal.....I hope his goal and now this type of performance is seeing him grow into that shirt!
Helander.....Yes please.....what a game he had!
Jack coming back from his knee complaint straight into the heat of that battle alongside Davis.....solid as hell!!!
McGregor.....an absolute brick wall!!
Now the elephants....
Goldson should never have been chosen over Katic.....I’ve said it before and the poll on FF has demonstrated it too.....Katic is by far the better of those two & Gerrard needs to rest Goldson for a bit and try and different combination with Helander.
Tavernier he can’t be on the pens now...2 already missed this season and at this level misses like that could be costly....he’s a lucky lad tonight that we got away with that miss.
Ojo....what a strike....the lad could not have hit that any cleaner.....however the rest of the game he was way below par....both with his final ball and his defensive tracking back....he looked so lackadaisical at times it was sorely frustrating!!!
Overall as a team we need to be far more clinical with the chances we create, at this level and to be league champions we need to be ruthless middle to front and thus far we haven’t seen that streak to our game!
3 points to start though but a missed opportunity to bag some goals to help put us in top spot!
Great result in the end and nice tribute from Ojo to dedicate his goal to Fernando and his family.
People just can’t do it. They revel in negativity.Why can’t some folks just fucking enjoy a win ?
Ojo scored (again) the winner, hit the post and got into several excellent positions... That's what he is here to do.
9 goals and assists in 12 games speaks for itself.