Turnbull Blatantly Kicks Aberdeen Player Off The Ball... And Is Not Red Carded – Collum Decision Is Inexcusable

WinkieWATP said:
Wasn’t excessive force according to McFadden.

Different story when Morelos got the retrospective red card at Tannadice earlier on the season when he barely touched the Utd player.
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It would’ve been “a daft kick out and there’s no excuse for it. They’ll need to look at that because you can’t just go around kicking people” if it had been Alfie.
 
AllanStan said:
Nope. Incidents can be over ruled and worked exactly that way when Morelos stood on the Hibs lad.
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Sorry, you are wrong.

The Ref claimed that he never saw the stamp by Morelos, which is why the CO was allowed to cite him for a Red Card offence.

If the Ref had said that he seen the entire incident and his decision was correct, then the CO could not have taken it any further.
 
Disco Deejay said:
Sorry, you are wrong.

The Ref claimed that he never saw the stamp by Morelos, which is why the CO was allowed to cite him for a Red Card offence.

If the Ref had said that he seen the entire incident and his decision was correct, then the CO could not have taken it any further.
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It’s quite vague the rule though, it’s if the ref never saw it ‘in its entirety’. BJK said that it was seen by the officials as a trip, therefore it was seen yes but not in its entirety (a blatant kick nowhere near the ball after the players had stopped). So this one should be able to be overruled I’d say as the ref never entirely saw the incident.

Vague in the sense though that the ref could just watch it after the match and then decide if he did see it in its entirety or not.
 
ShieldhallBear said:
It’s quite vague the rule though, it’s if the ref never saw it ‘in its entirety’. BJK said that it was seen by the officials as a trip, therefore it was seen yes but not in its entirety (a blatant kick nowhere near the ball after the players had stopped). So this one should be able to be overruled I’d say as the ref never entirely saw the incident.

Vague in the sense though that the ref could just watch it after the match and then decide if he did see it in its entirety or not.
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The Ref told the Hibs Manager and players at half-time that he saw the Morelos incident. Then changed his mind a few days later.

I am in no doubt that extreme pressure is placed upon the Ref's to do this, either by the CO or someone else with clout at the SFA, especially when the mhedia demand it against a Rangers player.

Whether or not such pressure will be placed upon Clancy on this occasion remains to be seen, but given the lack of mhedia hysteria, I won't hold my breath.
 
By definition the compliance officer should ensure compliance with the rules of the game. What difference is there if the ref sees it or not?? It is a red card offence, and a non compliance with the rules. A bent ref and corrupt governing body could only ignore this. Fkn clowns. :mad:
 
The difference between this incident and where our players have been banned by the compliance officer is in this case the ref won’t lie and say he never seen the incident. He will not face the same pressure to do so
 
We all know had it been Alfie he'd have been off like a shot -followed by a ban!

Will the SFA review it? Perhaps slow motion will help!
 
Looks like the new CO is as corrupt as his predecessors. Imagine the uproar in the media if any Rangers player had got off with that. Collum should be rested for afew weeks if he doesn't thimk that was a red.
 
Alfredo gets a trial by relentless press & tv coverage. Scum players benefit from a cabal that are masters of cover up, denial and deflection.
There is a 2 tier system of justice in Scottish football, both on and off the park. One for the Scum that is lenient and not to be discussed (except where it is so egregious that it has to. eg Dubai) and one for everyone else, that is highlighted and discriminatory. You could argue a 3rd tier for Rangers and a 4th for Alfredo.
 
Can we honestly say we are surprised . If he had been charged he would have missed the game against the champions . That would never happen . We know they know it and the media know it !! The difference is the will be no inquest .
 
Wilkinsvolley said:
It would’ve been “a daft kick out and there’s no excuse for it. They’ll need to look at that because you can’t just go around kicking people” if it had been Alfie.
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This imo will become THE test case for the SFA's Compliance Officer. It was a clear and blatant off the ball kick at an opponent. The 'excessive force' argument does not come into it. It was a deliberate kick when the game had stopped and the other player's back was turned. On past occasions some players have been cited for swipes which have not connected. One which quite clearly did land on an opponent cannot be ignored. Also imo, Mr Collum the referee needs to be called upon for an explanation as to why Turnbull was allowed to remain on the pitch.
 
Disco Deejay said:
Sorry, you are wrong.

The Ref claimed that he never saw the stamp by Morelos, which is why the CO was allowed to cite him for a Red Card offence.

If the Ref had said that he seen the entire incident and his decision was correct, then the CO could not have taken it any further.
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It was never a stamp in the first place. Could he have avoided landing on Porteous? Absolutely but had he stamped on Porteous he would have left the field on a stretcher.

Morelos got a hole put in his leg by a Dundee Utd player? Nothing happens and you actually get the impression some people enjoyed it.

The way he has been treated differently to everyone else is disgusting imo. He has deserved some of the flak without doubt but other times he gets the raw end of the deal.
 
If the Turnbull incident is not upgraded to a red then we still have an obvious bias in favour of tim.If this was any of of our players ( not just Alfredo ) the mhedia would be up in arms and the C.O. would be already preparing their ban.
 
Today's farcical decision not to red card Turnbull only clearly proves that to win the League, we had to beat the cheats both on and off the pitch. Any of our players, never mind Alfie, would have been hammered for a deliberate kick off the ball.
 
I don't suppose there is any explanation as to why there is no further action. Next season become much more difficult with this two tier justice system.
 
Rangers should put all the stuff celtic players get away with on twitter non stop. Also put the stuff our players get done for and say just one word, corruption.
 
WinkieWATP said:
It was never a stamp in the first place. Could he have avoided landing on Porteous? Absolutely but had he stamped on Porteous he would have left the field on a stretcher.

Morelos got a hole put in his leg by a Dundee Utd player? Nothing happens and you actually get the impression some people enjoyed it.

The way he has been treated differently to everyone else is disgusting imo. He has deserved some of the flak without doubt but other times he gets the raw end of the deal.
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The hole in Alfie’s leg tackle was not dissimilar to the Roofe tackle on the Czech keeper in terms of recklessness and media folk were outraged by Kemars.
 
ShieldhallBear said:
So this one should be able to be overruled I’d say as the ref never entirely saw the incident.
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As other posters note, this is the crux of any argument -- we can all see how deliberate, petty and malicious this kick was.

If the ref didn't see it all properly, it explains why there was only a yellow card and any PROPER Compliance Officer (who actually knows about playing football) would upgrade that to a red card.

If the ref did see it properly, then he must be censured for ONLY dishing out a yellow.
And that PROPER CO must still upgrade it to a red, effectively stating that the ref has colluded with the player by providing a lesser punishment.

It all comes down to the question we keep asking these match and compliance officials -- are you incompetent, or just plain corrupt ?
 
skorn said:
As other posters note, this is the crux of any argument -- we can all see how deliberate, petty and malicious this kick was.

If the ref didn't see it all properly, it explains why there was only a yellow card and any PROPER Compliance Officer (who actually knows about playing football) would upgrade that to a red card.

If the ref did see it properly, then he must be censured for ONLY dishing out a yellow.
And that PROPER CO must still upgrade it to a red, effectively stating that the ref has colluded with the player by providing a lesser punishment.

It all comes down to the question we keep asking these match and compliance officials -- are you incompetent, or just plain corrupt ?
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Do we really need to ask that question?

The corruption is being waved in our faces while the perpetrators laugh at us.
 
skorn said:
As other posters note, this is the crux of any argument -- we can all see how deliberate, petty and malicious this kick was.

If the ref didn't see it all properly, it explains why there was only a yellow card and any PROPER Compliance Officer (who actually knows about playing football) would upgrade that to a red card.

If the ref did see it properly, then he must be censured for ONLY dishing out a yellow.
And that PROPER CO must still upgrade it to a red, effectively stating that the ref has colluded with the player by providing a lesser punishment.

It all comes down to the question we keep asking these match and compliance officials -- are you incompetent, or just plain corrupt ?
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So far the evidence about this supposed Rangers fan CO is that he is every bit as bad as the parade of poets that came before him?

Didnt listen to the arguments regarding Patterson and co (didnt expect them to get off, but a reduced ban would have been somewhat fairer).

Not citing Turnbull for a blatant act of assault off the ball (whistle went long before, the assault didn't come while the ball was in play).

Joke really
 
I said (page 4) I didn't think it was a red card, and still do btw.
Surely we don't think Collum favours the bheasts? He's a crap ref, but I'd take him before Clancy, Madden and Beaton because he gives decisions as he sees them, not to help the tims like the others.
 
skorn said:
As other posters note, this is the crux of any argument -- we can all see how deliberate, petty and malicious this kick was.

If the ref didn't see it all properly, it explains why there was only a yellow card and any PROPER Compliance Officer (who actually knows about playing football) would upgrade that to a red card.

If the ref did see it properly, then he must be censured for ONLY dishing out a yellow.
And that PROPER CO must still upgrade it to a red, effectively stating that the ref has colluded with the player by providing a lesser punishment.

It all comes down to the question we keep asking these match and compliance officials -- are you incompetent, or just plain corrupt ?
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it can't be incompetence when it's us always on the end of the shitey end of the stick be it with the Compliance Officer or Covid bans, while the celtic continually gets excused.
 
I for one am quite pleased at this. When we are strolling at 4-0 on the 2nd, anyone not already on a booking can blooter Brown in the scrotum off the ball and take the yellow. Nice way to send him off to Aberdeen.
 
baystatebear said:
Incidents such as this are surely the most compelling reason for the introduction of VAR in the SPL.
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No not all the problem is dishonesty it makes no difference how many times they see it or from another angle, or even any amount of replays

The ref(and Collum is the only one that gives decisions against the tims) would stick by the decision after watching it again at pitchside and even it was more like rugby league the only thing one of the other maniac officials in the bunker might do is suggest its not even worth a yellow.

VAR would allow even more corruption, more chances for refs to rewind the action and manipulate games, we wouldnt score a goal without it being checked a dozen times for a push or any reason not to award it.... our players would be watched even more closely than they are at the moment for any excuse to show another really soft red card.

Having someone like Madden or even an ex ref like say Charlie Richmond doing the replays is actually quite scary, it would be like sportscene things are tough enough as it is for Rangers.
 
sheddensbear said:
I said (page 4) I didn't think it was a red card, and still do btw.
Surely we don't think Collum favours the bheasts? He's a crap ref, but I'd take him before Clancy, Madden and Beaton because he gives decisions as he sees them, not to help the tims like the others.
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He's a filthy little cheating bastard who took the nip at Candieas scoring a late goal and sent him off for celebrating near the end.
 
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