It was common knowledge that Celtic Boys Club was 'their Boys Club'.
Newspapers would report the fact when referring to them, everyone accepted it as such, including the club itself.
Another snippet to add to the pile of paperwork that points to CBC being an integral part of CFC rather than a separate entity.It was common knowledge that Celtic Boys Club was 'their Boys Club'.
Newspapers would report the fact when referring to them, everyone accepted it as such, including the club itself.
Nail on head, as ever, Huckleberry.The unfolding nightmare has no boundaries and while exempt FC carry on regardless it is abhorrent the way the so called justice system has reacted.
The morally bankrupt organisation masquerading as a football club are quite unbelievably untouchable ? A law unto themselves, inflicted on society and accepted as normal. A club like no other, uniquely disgusting organisation.
Well said as ever Huck.The unfolding nightmare has no boundaries and while exempt FC carry on regardless it is abhorrent the way the so called justice system has reacted.
The morally bankrupt organisation masquerading as a football club are quite unbelievably untouchable ? A law unto themselves, inflicted on society and accepted as normal. A club like no other, uniquely disgusting organisation.
That is not up to the folk who were abused. It's a matter of authority, rules etc.Many here say they would like trophies, championships and whatever taken from them. (Which I agree with) but this is all down to what the boys (now men ) want front this.
We know from reading from a few here. All they want is for them to say it was them or something similar.
What do the men want, do they want trophies and championships taken from them?
The victims should be going after both, celtic and the sfa, the sfa helped to cover up the investigation into child abuse by putting in their own yes men.That is not up to the folk who were abused. It's a matter of authority, rules etc.
Are you saying it's ok to commit crimes but then get let off with it if the victims don't want to pursue the offender.
The SFA should be applying the rules of the game whether the victims (and it would need to be every victim) want it or not.
We all know the SFA will try and wriggle out of punishing Celtic if there is any way of doing so.
The Celtic View - 8 Feb 1995Another snippet to add to the pile of paperwork that points to CBC being an integral part of CFC rather than a separate entity.
Celtic were hoist by their own petard long ago, happy to claim CBC as their own in the Celtic View and elsewhere before dropping them like a hot potato upon realising that this relationship made them guilty of child sexual abuse.
Now it's a case of damage limitation, in the form of out of court settlements. They have always been, and remain, concerned only with their supposed 'good name'.
I thought it was 6 months?Was there not a date,where they had to offer out of court settlements,otherwise it would be going back into court?.
Their was but they’ll be doing absolutely everything to drag this on for as long as possible using every sinister means possibleWas there not a date,where they had to offer out of court settlements,otherwise it would be going back into court?.
They should be refused a license to play.Bringing the game into disrepute - surely a certainty
Gaining a financial advantage by covering up abuse scandal for decades (sponsorship etc) - definitely
Attracting players who would be disgusted that a club hid child abuse and getting a footballing advantage - without doubt
Now that victims are rightly going to be compensated there should be a focus from every team in the league that punishments must be included
Did she have a load of laughing emoji's after the Police Scotland part?Just had a reply to my email to my MP last summer ! She did right to the minister of Sport and Culture who gave a long answer stating safeguarding in sport is tgaken seriously goes on about the FA ( i live in England ) but on the pointof the arrests and convictions in one club he suggested the matter of any potential criminality by the club should be actioned by Police Scotland
It was not her that suggested Police Scotland but the culture secretary in quite a long letter. Both stated they will continue to monitor situation!Did she have a load of laughing emoji's after the Police Scotland part?
I believe most want AN APOLOGY!! Monetary compensation is second fiddle.As the time has dragged on and we approach the cut off point for the survivors to accept whatever they’ve been offered, it’s been very quiet on all fronts.
In my opinion, and thankfully not as someone directly involved in it all, this may mean the offers haven’t come anywhere near what the victims feel they should receive and the court proceedings can be scheduled.
If that is the case, I hope those affected get as much support as they need.
Sadly you never will ..In their under developed minds it never happened., as they have started to believe their own lies. Horrible club with horrible fans.How two faced of TGFITW wanting Brenda's hearing with the SFA brought forward but happy for the Civil Action to be kicked down the road as far and as often as possible, where is the outrage ? I have not heard any Tim fans group urging cellic to stop stalling for these victims.
Mate, I should have made it clearer in my post that the offer was in its entirety, acceptance that it happened, apology for allowing it again and again and any financial recompense that the victim felt met their needs.I believe most want AN APOLOGY!! Monetary compensation is second fiddle.
The victims should be going after both, celtic and the sfa, the sfa helped to cover up the investigation into child abuse by putting in their own yes men.
All the best to you brother, not long enough but hopefully you can get some peace and continue with your life.Just had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
Well done Neil took balls and courage from you and now you see the end result. Stay strong and hopefully others see this as a springboard for them.Just had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
Nowhere near enough, but in comparison with what we're used to seeing, 9 years seems a strong sentence.Just had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
surely the football authorities will be faced with a simple question if they are found guilty! Are EBTs worse than covering up decades of CSA? They should have the book thrown at them and face a worse punishment than we did obviously. Similar to Penn State.Bringing the game into disrepute - surely a certainty
Gaining a financial advantage by covering up abuse scandal for decades (sponsorship etc) - definitely
Attracting players who would be disgusted that a club hid child abuse and getting a footballing advantage - without doubt
Now that victims are rightly going to be compensated there should be a focus from every team in the league that punishments must be included
Well done NeilJust had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
Hopefully his conviction gives you and the other victims/survivors peace of mind. All the best.Just had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
Great news and another step in the right direction. Hopefully this will help you deal with things and make your life a little bit easier.Just had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
Looks like you are already in a much better place mentally. There will always be someone on here will to listenThanks guys.
Being able to talk about it on here has helped my mental health immensely since i find it hard to talk to people about feelings etc.
Theres always been a mental block there since this happened in 1991.
If this helps anyone in any way then good.
If not then i got the justice i needed & hopefully his other victims/survivors can get some kind of closure.
Tbh i wasnt expecting the 9 years, i thought he'd get 6 if he was lucky.
Not all of his victims are here though as 1 poor boy took his own life so i imagine that would've came into account regarding the sentence he received.
LWF
Well done sir on your strength to see this through and save others. I wish you a happy and positive future. Take care.Just had a phone call.
Michael James Hay Martin has been sentenced to 9 years at Edinburgh High Court.
She said something about him being monitored for life & a 3 year extension & if he gets out & offends again he'll be back to jail.
Also said i can be notified if i wanted to be made aware if he gets released.
Its a lot to process but id just like to thank everyone on here for your unwavering support
Great to hear that you have got some positive news, Neil. I hope you can get things together again and get your life back.Thanks guys.
Being able to talk about it on here has helped my mental health immensely since i find it hard to talk to people about feelings etc.
Theres always been a mental block there since this happened in 1991.
If this helps anyone in any way then good.
If not then i got the justice i needed & hopefully his other victims/survivors can get some kind of closure.
Tbh i wasnt expecting the 9 years, i thought he'd get 6 if he was lucky.
Not all of his victims are here though as 1 poor boy took his own life so i imagine that would've came into account regarding the sentence he received.
LWF
Too many Roman Catholics and Celtic minded fans in high placesWhy is it there has still not been an independent public enquiry into this?
Days after the killer of Emma Caldwell was convicted an enquiry has been set up about who knew what and when, quite rightly so.
So why, with multiple convictions for CSA at celtic and its boys club has there not been an enquiry?
If only Anas Anwar wasn't so close to the FM and his football team then real justice might be served.
Too many Roman Catholics and Celtic minded fans in high places
The reason Celtic failed to report the child abuse was to enable them to continue to recruit young talent to enable them to win trophies. The abuse and winning are very much linked. Fear that parents would stop their boys joining was the main reason they failed to act.Trophies and football have nothing to do with this and should be kept out of it. These lads need justice for what happened to them and that’s accountability and sentencing from the bastards that done it.