Grigo Yossarian
Well-Known Member
Teeny weeny minority.
Juan Guy with a microphone ?
Teeny weeny minority.
All forms of sectarianism/racism should be treated equally.
Doesn't matter how much the victims piss their pants about it.
The fact is the - so called - anti sectarianism groups in Scotland are only interested in anti catholic behaviour.
There are political points, money and lots of media exposure to be gained from being out spoken against anti catholic behaviour.
We need a group who focuses only on violence or behaviour that is offensive to the protestant community or those perceived to be protestant.
I am fairly certain that since 2012, the levels of violence aimed at Rangers fans compared to violence against celtic fans would suggest we are the victims more often than not.
I have only read about it but McInnes should not be punished for the reaction today.
Totally agree with this post. If sectarian behaviour is wrong then it is wrong all of the time irrespective of who is the perpetrator and who is the victim.
Given that we need to clean our own doorstep first. Then we can criticise others with credibility.
And why was his assistant sent off as well? He couldn’t have been subjected to the same tune.From BBC on line,
The McInnes dismissal requires context. The Aberdeen manager was subjected to sectarian abuse from Celtic fans and he reacted to it, unwisely by his own admission. The twisted morality of these things in Scotland may now see McInnes up on a Scottish FA charge, while those guilty of abusing him will likely hear no more about it.
Interesting to see how this is dealt with. How did McInnes react ? What did he do ? 4th official input ?
Lets stop hurling sectarian abuse before complaining.
But we wont ,we are softer than ever im afraidPlease read Bilko’s posts. Bilko gets it.
I think the next step for us is to come out and state that we as a club will no longer cooperate with any anti sectarian charities or organisations until there is a level playing field. We need to call this out, we are being taken for mugs.
Strange take on events.Lets stop hurling sectarian abuse before complaining.
There is not a lot that goes over my head, and there is quite a lot goes through it. Celtic and Rangers managers have had this sung to them for years. Nobody complained, this has become the present day habit of being offended by everything. The ending was hunks, one and all, don't know where hunks came from, tried to edit this but kept going back to hunks.
Your acerbic wit has been noted.
My post should read hunks, not hunks. There is not a lot that goes over my head. there is quite a lot that goes through it. Your acerbic wit has been noted.
Have already posted this on another thread but I fully expect Lennon to either take his team off or for him to walk off at Ibrox next month when we are beating them.
Is Jim White having a show discussing this issue on talksport this morning?
I think the point Deedle is making, is that this stuff has been weaponised by the other side and they are using it to attack Protestants, Rangers Football Club and anything Unionist and that they will use it destructively to undermine all three and especially Rangers FC.
Forget about being offended, it passed that stage years ago, this is just another political and cultural frontline in a low-level war waged against every single one of us and either we fight fire with fire or else we surrender.
Do you have a white flag to hand?
Seems this is having to be pointed out ad nauseam .It's frightening that people like these 2 just don't get it.
No one is offended by the songs ffs!
The clear lack of level playing field is the issue...
Do you honestly think Bears are offended by a daft song directed at a no mark Aberdeen manager?
Mrs Mop could be down on her knees, seven days a week, scrubbing until her fingers bleed.
Our doorstep will never be clean enough for the bigots at FARE, Call it Out, Nil by Mouth, CFC, The SFA and all their media stooges.
As far as they are concerned, we are akin to the KKK.
I'd be interested to know how you propose to deal with one side of the debate who have no interest in ending sectarianism, who just use it as a stick to beat that which they hate?
Deary me. As per posters above reads Bilko’s postsLets stop hurling sectarian abuse before complaining.
Do we expect Celtic to make a statement similar to Dave Kings? If we had an impartial media then questions should be getting asked of the Celtic board. Unfortunately, this will be forgotten about by tonight and never mentioned again.
It’s only my view but I think it’s ironic for some headcases in our support to give steve clarke sectarian abuse and then complain about the likes of mcinness getting it and Stevie GStrange take on events.
Not on the agenda anyway.
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Another belter of a post BIlko.
irafc (then the compliant media and the pretendy politicians) CHANGED the rules years ago.
They got 19th Century Terrorist redefined to mean Roman Catholic and got to be offended by a name they really consider to be a badge of honour FFS
And ove ra decade later we' still have people going on aobut not being offended.
We really need to wake up to the fact we ARE in a political and cultural war.
It’s only my view but I think it’s ironic for some headcases in our support to give steve clarke sectarian abuse and then complain about the likes of mcinness getting it and Stevie G
How do you think that would go down at Holyrood? They're the ones that make the laws.
The world has changed utterly and there are numerous MSPs itching to get stands closed at Ibrox for similar chants.
Oh well it seems i’ve caught the wrong end of the stickI don't think many are complaining about the actual abuse. More the difference in reporting.
Wonder who these 2 unnamed experts would be and what side of the divide they come fromThis is what 2 unnamed experts informed the UEFA appeal in 2006.
" Both experts indicated that the term “19th Century Terrorist” is a collective name for Catholics solely used by hard-line anti-Catholics in Northern Ireland and Scotland."
Wonder who these 2 unnamed experts would be and what side of the divide they come from
Wait so he got sectarian abuse off a large portion of their allocation, and when he reacts with a GIRUY gesture he gets banned?
I hope he does. Because it will show him up as the stinking hypocrite that he is.Have already posted this on another thread but I fully expect Lennon to either take his team off or for him to walk off at Ibrox next month when we are beating them.
Be praise their superb atmosphere when they were calling SG a sad orange bastardIs Jim White having a show discussing this issue on talksport this morning?
Oh well it seems i’ve caught the wrong end of the stick[/QUOTE
They sing their songs
We sing our songs
They get a free pass (cultural/non-political)
We get hammered & portrayed as racist/bigoted/sectarian/uneducated
It’s not a level playing field & it’s influence is seeping into everyday life.
Rangers fans could sing the Soldier Song before the next game at Ibrox & they would still get pelters
Except people aren't moaning about them receiving it, people are moaning at the lack of parity in reporting from the media and action by the authorities.It’s only my view but I think it’s ironic for some headcases in our support to give steve clarke sectarian abuse and then complain about the likes of mcinness getting it and Stevie G
Mrs Mop could be down on her knees, seven days a week, scrubbing until her fingers bleed.
Our doorstep will never be clean enough for the bigots at FARE, Call it Out, Nil by Mouth, CFC, The SFA and all their media stooges.
As far as they are concerned, we are akin to the KKK.
Aye keep wallowing in your own pish. Your attitude will keep us firmly under the control of our enemies agenda.
Throughout our history we have led and others have followed. They way forward is to set the agenda. We set the standard. They have to follow.
Instead we moan and huff and puff and accept our lot.
This is what 2 unnamed experts informed the UEFA appeal in 2006.
" Both experts indicated that the term “19th Century Terrorist” is a collective name for Catholics solely used by hard-line anti-Catholics in Northern Ireland and Scotland."
"The Chairman of the Appeals Body decided to seek the opinions of experts in the field of sectarianism in Scotland, notably in relation to its historical and sociological context. As a result, two experts, both with a long list of academic qualifications and holding professorships at universities in Great Britain, were asked to submit reports. In fear of possible acts of retaliation against them and their families,both experts requested that their identity not be disclosed to the parties. The Chairman granted this exceptional treatment and decided to add the reports of both experts to the case file and also ordered that the identities and profiles of the witnesses be communicated to the Appeals Body."
Where is this from?
The ending was hunks, one and all, don't know where hunks came from, tried to edit this but kept going back to hunks.
Your acerbic wit has been noted.
My post should read hunks, not hunks. There is not a lot that goes over my head. there is quite a lot that goes through it. Your acerbic wit has been noted.
https://www.followfollow.com/forum/...-even-played-through-club-sound-system.45882/Juan Guy with a microphone ?
All forms of sectarianism/racism should be treated equally.
Doesn't matter how much the victims piss their pants about it.
The fact is the - so called - anti sectarianism groups in Scotland are only interested in anti catholic behaviour.
There are political points, money and lots of media exposure to be gained from being out spoken against anti catholic behaviour.
We need a group who focuses only on violence or behaviour that is offensive to the protestant community or those perceived to be protestant.
I am fairly certain that since 2012, the levels of violence aimed at Rangers fans compared to violence against celtic fans would suggest we are the victims more often than not.
I have only read about it but McInnes should not be punished for the reaction today.
But this is ok, No red card for the Lurgan Bigot
how very true,it's the (S.N.P./Sinn Fein) way or the highwayFair enough.
But this was never about being offended and that is the point.
I doubt any of us cares a whit about what other teams supporters sing or even about what individual supporters say in their cups on social media or other.
But this is why you have to look at the matter from a political and cultural perspective.
This supposed 'non-concern' is being used maliciously and for gain, not by you against anyone, but by nasty people against you.
Not to offend you on a personal level, but to undermine your very being on a political and cultural level.
To diminish you as a person in society and to traduce and eliminate any influence you have at a cultural level and even at a political one.
It is a war, not one that you declared, but rather one that has been declared against you.
You can hide from it, you can stick your head in the sand, but it will still be the same.
You are the target and they are aiming at you no matter how much you decide to look away.