huistra23
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I agree, totally different players,like asking,was Goram better than McCoistI'd go Gazza too but, as above, very, very different types of players to be comparing.
I agree, totally different players,like asking,was Goram better than McCoistI'd go Gazza too but, as above, very, very different types of players to be comparing.
I have done.Why don't you talk some sense of your own then and actually give your opinion on the subject?
Germany son,it was Germany.More than likely. But his goal against Scotland apart I think he would be known more for crying after their defeat to Italy in the World Cup over anything else he did for England.
Love Gazza but Gerrard was far more complete as a player. Gazza couldn't tackle. Couldn't play all over the pitch. Didn't score a lot of goals from outside the box, not in comparison with Gerrard anyway. Gerrard was also good in the air and scored a number of headed goals which I never recall Gascoigne doing. You could argue that Gascoigne had more God given talent maybe, he was certainly more skilfull, but out of the two you would have to be an absolute idiot to chose him over Gerrard for your team.
There are numerous examples,but winning 8in a row v Aberdeen springs immediately to mind.Yeah, it wasn't his quality that won games for Liverpool. Just hard work and a bit of elbow grease...
Name me a game where Gazza virtually won a game by himself for his team as Gerrard did against West Ham in the FA Cup Final?
I think the reason was that he was just a naturally gifted player so he probably felt that he didn’t have to put in the effort that other players did.Gerrard, Lampard, Scholes all had better careers than Gazza but every English man i have spoke about football with through work etc all say gazza is the best.
Prob because his performances at world cup 90 and Euro 96 right enough.
On his day Gazza probably better but he never had for whatever reason the dedication and proffesionalism of the others mentioned.
Made a semi final, largely on the luck of the draw. As for the nations league and World Rankings? Nobody gives 2 fucks about them.I'm too tired for more talk on Gerrard and Gascoigne at the moment.
As for England, you're judging them on individual quality. If you're going by that then they should have been one of the top 3 or 4 sides in Europe. But they were largely horrendous in tournament football, especially after Sven. They were a bunch of individuals that clearly didn't like playing with each other due to club rivalry and also often looked terrified to being representing their country. England's current team look like they're enjoying the ride under Southgate and I'm standing by my point that they are a better team. The fact that they made a World Cup semi, regardless of who they played, a Nations League semi and are currently 4th I believe in the Fifa World Rankings only back up my belief.
But he didn't. He only has himself to blame for that. Football genius with the ball at his feet but thick as pig shit and mentally weak.
So all these replies and not one actual argument that Gascoigne was a better (more complete) player overall than Gerrard yet. I should probably rest my case.
I'd go Gazza too but, as above, very, very different types of players to be comparing.
For the last time as you're at it, best player and most complete player are two different things. This thread is about who was the best football player, not who was the most complete footballer.
Made a semi final, largely on the luck of the draw. As for the nations league and World Rankings? Nobody gives 2 fucks about them.
BTW, England made 2 semi finals in the 90s pretty much on Gazzas back, but that was about 10 years before you were born.
Spot on mate couldn't have put it betterNot nice behave yourself or you should be banned dafty
It’s all about opinions however strange yours appear to be.
Gerrard is of the opinion that he’s not in Gazzas league though so I think it’s safe to say your strange, almost hateful ramblings about a former Ranger should be ignored.
Depends. Gazza peaked higher than Gerrard but throughout their careers Gerrard maintained a higher level for longer.
Get the %^*& out. To me the most complete player is the better player.
Having started this thread, it was great to read all the different opinions, what did disappoint me was your attitude to other bears and you’re lack of knowledge of a player who was one of the best to play for famous club we support.Get the %^*& out. To me the most complete player is the better player.
Love Gazza but Gerrard was far more complete as a player. Gazza couldn't tackle. Couldn't play all over the pitch. Didn't score a lot of goals from outside the box, not in comparison with Gerrard anyway. Gerrard was also good in the air and scored a number of headed goals which I never recall Gascoigne doing. You could argue that Gascoigne had more God given talent maybe, he was certainly more skilfull, but out of the two you would have to be an absolute idiot to chose him over Gerrard for your team.
Almost hateful? Have a word with yourself. The worst I've said about him was that he was thick as pig shit, and I even held my hands up after about that and implied that it was unnecessary.
Couldn't give a shit what Gerrard says about Gazza when they are standing less than a foot away from each other.
Did Gazza not score the winner in a Rome Derby with his head, or am I havering?
Having started this thread, it was great to read all the different opinions, what did disappoint me was your attitude to other bears and you’re lack of knowledge of a player who was one of the best to play for famous club we support.
Gazzamania was something only George Best could match or surpass though (in Britain), which says a lot. England haven't seen anyone close to his talents since, Stevie G included, and that's why it's still "The new Paul Gascoigne" and not "The new Wayne Rooney/Lampard or Gerrard"
You continue to call fellow bears names even claiming one poster wants Gazza to shag him and argue even though you have admitted that you never even seen Gazza at his best.
The following morning you then call those that disagree with you virgins.
Your acting like a complete and utter bellend tbh.
One of his most famous goals with his head came in an old firm game. You'd think any Rangers fan would know that.
In fairness you're probably the type of guy that cries when watching Titanic. Stop being a wuss. If anyone has been on the end of genuine insults it's myself.
One of his most famous goals with his head came in an old firm game. You'd think any Rangers fan would know that.
Did Gazza not score the winner in a Rome Derby with his head, or am I havering?
As much as I think Gascoigne was a once in a generation type talent as far as English football goes, Gazzamania was more a product of his ‘mad as a brush’ personality than it was his actual ability.
His performances at Italia 90 never really matched the hype, certainly not in the same way Roberto Baggio did for Italy, yet the whole Gazza phenomenon took off on the back of that tournament.
He was a wonderful player and we were lucky to have him even for the short time we did, but had it not been for his loony tunes persona, I’m not sure he’d ever be as highly regarded as he was.
For example, I actually think John Barnes and Chris Waddle were just as gifted, but neither is spoken of with the same reverence as Gascoigne.
England wouldn’t have got to the semi final without Gazza. He played a huge role in the wins over Belgium and Cameroon and was also outstanding against the Netherlands. He was excellent that tournament.
Barnes and Waddle always struggled to replicate their club form for England which is probably why they’re not treated with the same reverence.
I’m not saying Gascoigne didn’t play well or didn’t have a good tournament, he did, but what marked him out at club level was his ability to run past two or three players at will, something Barnes and Waddle could also do, but he never really did that at the World Cup, unlike Baggio, who did.
I thought Gascoigne’s performances were more a classic British sleeves rolled up and get stuck in than they were any great demonstration of his outrageous skills.
Next you'll be telling us that Ryan Giggs was better than George Best.Get the %^*& out. To me the most complete player is the better player.
Next you'll be telling us that Ryan Giggs was better than George Best.
There is no comparison, in terms of ability between Gazza and Gerrard. The only footballing virtue where Gerrard was superior was tackling. Gazza was quicker,both in thought and movement. Gazza had a better touch and better vision. Gazza was easier on the eye and much harder to mark,he was also the superior finisher.Not at all. I do know that Gerrard had more to his game than Gascoigne though, along with getting the most out of his ability between the two.
Lol.There is no comparison, in terms of ability between Gazza and Gerrard. The only footballing virtue where Gerrard was superior was tackling. Gazza was quicker,both in thought and movement. Gazza had a better touch and better vision. Gazza was easier on the eye and much harder to mark,he was also the superior finisher.
Great at Stevie G undoubtedly was, he was no Gascoinge.