Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

mdingwall said:
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I'm just catching up, and how the hell can this man be leading an independent enquiry.

He gives honest comments, on camera, that clubs will need to take responsibility (even if he did try and highlight "all clubs, not just celtic" as a cover) and the second the camera crew are gone, he reverts to the will of his celtic masters?

I have no faith in any review this man is leading. Absolute snake.
 
Lenzie Loyal said:
A rare bit of honesty from one of them. It'll never catch on.
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and another one!....... it appears the penny is dropping with some



Stringer Bell wrote: ↑It would appear that the perfect storm is brewing. Maybe that legislates for the piles of money we have sitting in the bank.

The board can be criticised for many, many things, but this one is just a complete shampoo show for anyone to have to deal with; from a PR, moral, financial and societal angle. I imagine it's sat in Lawwell's bottom drawer in a black envelope and he's tried to pretend it's not there; or even better, it'll somehow just go away. I can't stand the man, but it's a hellish situation to have to deal with. The shuffling of our position through various statements hasn't really helped, but their attempts to bat this one away have really just resulted in them kicking the can down the road.

I've no idea, obviously, what Thomson is going to come away with tonight, and I don't particularly care if I'm honest. The frothing at the mouth of the baying 'concerned' huns doesn't particularly bother me either. They're right. Their arrival at this, most likely, isn't via concern for the welfare of the victims, but it doesn't make them any less right.

Something happened at Celtic. Something really, really awful and we can dance around this separate entity pantomime all we like, but it happened. It's time for us to hold our hands up, regain some semblance of control of the situation and actually put into practice the charitable and socialist views we try to present. "A Club Like No Other"? Act like it then.

If it wipes out every penny we have in the bank to do the right thing, compensate victims and families, donations to relevant charities and re-establish a public image more befitting our heritage then it'll be worth it in my opinion. We may even have to face up to the fact that former employees, regardless of how popular / unpopular they are, had an involvement in this. So be it. The time to do the correct thing is here. I hope we do it.
 
Because victims maybe reluctant to come forward, or maybe have come forward and changed their minds. Theres no quick fix for this mate.

Malcolm Rodger is the exception rather than the rule. If anonymity could be 100% guaranteed, then I've no doubt there would be a lot more, but in this day and age,that's practically impossible.
 
I've been working long hours recently and missed the C4 thing, is there anywhere I can catch up with this?
 
Have long believed that there is an unwritten protocol in the shortbread assembly where you can't ask awkward questions of the ruling Junta.Please Mr Tomkins ask about the elephant in the room.It will cause uproar I'm sure, but it will at least force them to address the issue in public.If I am wrong about this protocol, then like many others,I am dumfounded as to why the question has gone un asked for so long.
 
adastra said:
In respect of the “separate entity” argument, has anyone ever challenged them on any payments made from Celtic FC to Celtic Boys Club as part of the transformation into St Patrick’s Boys Club

in addition what stipulations were made regarding the use of anything remotely linking Celtic FC to St Patrick’s Boys Club, such as strips etc to allow this payment?

it’s widely thought in Boys Club circles that Celtic paid £70k to facilitate this change. Why would a separate entity, with no responsibility make such a payment and why overnight was this Boys Club banned from holding monthly meetings, functions etc at Celtic Park?
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Of all the things happening lately this is the one that actually sickens me the most, other than the abuse obviously.

To pay the boys club to change their name and distance themselves from them the way they have is very sinister and calculated. If Celtic were “very sorry” and “full of sorrow” what support have they offered this boys club? They’ve ditched them to save their name. For a club that are supposed to be so good at PR they have handled this very poorly
 





The National newspaper turning Nelson’s Eye to the worst sporting scandal in Scottish history

The National newspaper - if we can dignify a political comic pandering to the wildest fringes of the cultural nationalist wing of the Yes movement with that description - has like the other titles in the Herald-Times group been strangely quiet about this massive story in the city in which they are based.

Predatory paedophiles are both cunning and shameless - any and many organisations may and have had, and continue to have, them prey on young people within the organisations care. There should be no lowering of the guard for the future nor playing politics with the history of such abuse - wherever it has or is occurring.

We do however have a particular situation over decades at Celtic football club where numerous persons have stood trial and been convicted of abusing children. And so do other clubs - and yet others have had allegations made against them and their staff.

The difference with Celtic is the longevity of the assaults and allegations from roughly 1969 to 1994/95; the fact that so many of their Boys Club and club staff (the two are in fact one and the same) have been convicted; that the chairman of the football club (Kevin Kelly) became a director of Torbett’s Trophy Centre company and that another club director’s wife (Anne Dunn, wife of Jack McGinn) became company secretary; all this whilst the football club continued to do £250,000 of business a year with the Trophy Centre even after Torbett’s conviction.

Add to that a disturbing history of detail and deflection from the football club and this is by any standard a massive story. If it doesn’t look like a paedophile ring then I don’t know what does.

The recent two-part report from Channel 4 has brought to a UK audience the Celtic Boys Club scandal - and by proving the Scottish link to the notorious abuser Barry Bennell it has served to open up a new chapter in this sordid story.

It’s an incredible story and yet a Glasgow based media organisation barely mentions it? and when they do it is to attempt to traduce an MSP who has been at the forefront of fighting for justice on behalf of the victims?

Adam Tomkins made no joke about paedophillia - he merely point out that on and off the field Celtic had had a bad week - when one considers the lies, obfuscation, weaponisation of their fan base against critics and legal threats the club has employed his comments were apt. Channel 4 has kicked a huge hole in their wall of deceit.

There’s an agenda at work here.
 
Huckleberry said:
They portray themselves an innovative foreword thinking club (like no other) when in actual fact ! You know the rest.
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They're vile. In particular they run their mouth about how many charities the goon brigade collect for, but refuse to deal with their own institutional, systematic problems. That tells me they're deliberately avoiding it as they are guilty as sin.
 
TheEgg said:
and another one!....... it appears the penny is dropping with some



Stringer Bell wrote: ↑It would appear that the perfect storm is brewing. Maybe that legislates for the piles of money we have sitting in the bank.

The board can be criticised for many, many things, but this one is just a complete shampoo show for anyone to have to deal with; from a PR, moral, financial and societal angle. I imagine it's sat in Lawwell's bottom drawer in a black envelope and he's tried to pretend it's not there; or even better, it'll somehow just go away. I can't stand the man, but it's a hellish situation to have to deal with. The shuffling of our position through various statements hasn't really helped, but their attempts to bat this one away have really just resulted in them kicking the can down the road.

I've no idea, obviously, what Thomson is going to come away with tonight, and I don't particularly care if I'm honest. The frothing at the mouth of the baying 'concerned' huns doesn't particularly bother me either. They're right. Their arrival at this, most likely, isn't via concern for the welfare of the victims, but it doesn't make them any less right.

Something happened at Celtic. Something really, really awful and we can dance around this separate entity pantomime all we like, but it happened. It's time for us to hold our hands up, regain some semblance of control of the situation and actually put into practice the charitable and socialist views we try to present. "A Club Like No Other"? Act like it then.

If it wipes out every penny we have in the bank to do the right thing, compensate victims and families, donations to relevant charities and re-establish a public image more befitting our heritage then it'll be worth it in my opinion. We may even have to face up to the fact that former employees, regardless of how popular / unpopular they are, had an involvement in this. So be it. The time to do the correct thing is here. I hope we do it.
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The perspective they all should be holding.

I think this is a case of the "ends justify the means" or similar.

Obviously it shouldn't be about point scoring. But you know what, this is getting closure for victims and condemning paedos, if some are "point scoring" so fcuking what. The outcome is noble and worthwhile by and measure.
 
Steve_french said:
They're vile. In particular they run their mouth about how many charities the goon brigade collect for, but refuse to deal with their own institutional, systematic problems. That tells me they're deliberately avoiding it as they are guilty as sin.
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They go out their way to chase ambulances because in their head it makes them feel better about their club abusing children
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
I was surprised BB. He actually was supportive of the victims.

Basically the bear said what will be the impact on scottish football of last nights programme on C4. Keevins replied nothing, it’s all down to Celtic to address this issue.

Gordon took it on quickly but at least there was a tacit support for the victims.
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There needs to be more calls to them,telling them the impact on scottish gootball will be massive,especially if they are demoted down the leagues ,or even thrown out of football in the name of sporting integrity.
 
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