baystatebear
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In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
Not at all, Dykes is woeful. Itten, who was signed from St Gallen not Basel btw, is far more technically gifted and a better finisher. He had a tough time getting in the team with Roofe's form before christmas and Morelos form afterwards. He admitted himself he struggled settling in this season, and even then he still looked a better player than Dykes ever did.In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
Is this a fishing expedition? If so, I’m in. Dykes is not good enough for us, regardless of what we paid for Itten.In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
Anytime I saw Fleck - who was playing for arguably the worst team in the EPL, I saw a decent, capable midfielder. Where he to sign for Rangers, I've no doubt he'd prove to be a decent and capable addition to the squad.Fleck is (like Jack) 29, so has a few good years ahead of him. Aside from Davis (36), we have Arfield (32), Jack (29), Kamara (25), Aribo (24, who has played a large chunk of his career as CM), and the "future forgotten" man Ofoborh (21). Much depends on how SG wants to set us up next season and whether he rotates the squad and tactics. I reckon quite few of those we want to sign for that position will want games ... and getting past Davis, Kamara and Jack will be a challenge.
So the 2.7 million we paid for Itten - who has hardly featured in the starting XI - is of no concern to you? Try sobering up before posting.Is this a fishing expedition? If so, I’m in. Dykes is not good enough for us, regardless of what we paid for Itten.
if you think Dykes is better than Itten you are the one that should be putting the bevvy downSo the 2.7 million we paid for Itten - who has hardly featured in the starting XI - is of no concern to you? Try sobering up before posting.
The jist of my post re. Itten is simply this - was he worth. 2.3 million. On the basis of his limited game time, and from what I've seen, I'd say the jury is still very much out.if you think Dykes is better than Itten you are the one that should be putting the bevvy down
He had maybe one poor performance, led the line really well v Poznan and contributed with big goals in the Motherwell games. I’m not actually sure what people expect from him coming mostly off the bench or playing right of the three on occasionThe jist of my post re. Itten is simply this - was he worth. 2.3 million. On the basis of his limited game time, and from what I've seen, I'd say the jury is still very much out.
Nor did I advocate that Rangers sign Dykes, I used his transfer to QPR for comparative purposes only.
However, it's worth noting that it was celtic's Kristoff Ajer, (I believe) who when asked who, in his opinion, was the most difficult SPL opponent to mark - he replied Lyndon Dykes. Make of it what you will.
I don't think Rangers made the wrong decision because they didn't sign Dykes...I think they made the wrong decision because Itten doesn't appear to be a fast dealer.In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
I don't think Rangers made the wrong decision because they didn't sign Dykes...I think they made the wrong decision because Itten doesn't appear to be a fast dealer.
He appears to need more time on the ball than he is going to get in Scotland.
He scored plenty of goals in Swiss...but he probably got more time on the ball.
He needs to work that 'low post' move like Fredo and kick that ass out there to box out defenders till he can find his shot.
Somethin...
Do you think Dykes would have gotten in the team ahead of Alfie or Roofe?So the 2.7 million we paid for Itten - who has hardly featured in the starting XI - is of no concern to you? Try sobering up before posting.
Do you think Dykes would have gotten in the team ahead of Alfie or Roofe?So the 2.7 million we paid for Itten - who has hardly featured in the starting XI - is of no concern to you? Try sobering up before posting.
Can you imagine Ajer saying that Kent was his most difficult opponent?The jist of my post re. Itten is simply this - was he worth. 2.3 million. On the basis of his limited game time, and from what I've seen, I'd say the jury is still very much out.
Nor did I advocate that Rangers sign Dykes, I used his transfer to QPR for comparative purposes only.
However, it's worth noting that it was celtic's Kristoff Ajer, (I believe) who when asked who, in his opinion, was the most difficult SPL opponent to mark - he replied Lyndon Dykes. Make of it what you will.
Eh?The jist of my post re. Itten is simply this - was he worth. 2.3 million. On the basis of his limited game time, and from what I've seen, I'd say the jury is still very much out.
Nor did I advocate that Rangers sign Dykes, I used his transfer to QPR for comparative purposes only.
However, it's worth noting that it was celtic's Kristoff Ajer, (I believe) who when asked who, in his opinion, was the most difficult SPL opponent to mark - he replied Lyndon Dykes. Make of it what you will.
Absolutely and Im sure a number of clubs would, bit odd hes not yet announced something.Notice that Lundstram still without a club after leaving Shef United .
Id take him in a heartbeat .
He probably would score goals in Scotland but we have loftier ambitions than that.Anyone who thinks Dykes is Rangers class needs an appointment with a mental health professional!
To an English club, even a mid Championship one like QPR, £2M is nothing short of a punt. Rangers obvs need to be much more careful and considered.In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
I think when describing his 'most difficult opponent' that Ajer - as a centre-half - had in mind a striker rather that a nominal winger such as Kent - who obviously is a far far better player than Dykes will ever be.Do you think Dykes would have gotten in the team ahead of Alfie or Roofe?
Can you imagine Ajer saying that Kent was his most difficult opponent?
They’re not allowed to even say old firm. That prick Broon couldn’t even bring himself to say Alfie had scored
Guy at work told me he's been up for discussions. Spotted at some hotel, cannae remember name of it now. Something Place..????Notice that Lundstram still without a club after leaving Shef United .
Id take him in a heartbeat .
I think when describing his 'most difficult opponent' that Ajer - as a centre-half - had in mind a striker rather that a nominal winger such as Kent - who obviously is a far far better player than Dykes will ever be.
In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
Dearie me.In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
You really think he is going to say Alfie? There captain couldn’t even bring himself to say his name when he scored at the back post!The jist of my post re. Itten is simply this - was he worth. 2.3 million. On the basis of his limited game time, and from what I've seen, I'd say the jury is still very much out.
Nor did I advocate that Rangers sign Dykes, I used his transfer to QPR for comparative purposes only.
However, it's worth noting that it was celtic's Kristoff Ajer, (I believe) who when asked who, in his opinion, was the most difficult SPL opponent to mark - he replied Lyndon Dykes. Make of it what you will.
40% is ridiculously high although i do believe they were stupid enough to accept those terms, also no where near at least 50%.Did the rotten mob not buy French Eddie for £9m and they have to forfeit 40% of any sell on? Or was it wishful thinking on here
Please note that in my original post I didn't advocate that Rangers sign Dykes. I merely made the suggestion that since Dykes was sold for less money than we payed for Itten - who presently is nowhere near commanding a regular first team place - that the 2.3 million Rangers spent in acquiring him might not have been the best use of our transfer funds. I'm aware that some may disagree, but as a proposition it is hardly without merit.Lyndon Dykes is no where near good enough.
I’m going to guess that when we take a short goal kick you scream get it up the fckin park ?In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
This.Anyone who thinks Dykes is Rangers class needs an appointment with a mental health professional!
In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
Itten was a project signing and his first year was about integrating him into the squad and getting him used to the league etc. The boy has played and scored for an international side who would utterly pump Scotland. I have no concerns about his signing or the fee we paid for him.
That Itten was viewed by Rangers as a 'project signing' - as you put it - is not unreasonable. Viewed this way, his signing is therefore something of a gamble. The only aspect of which I would question, is that given Rangers still modest transfer budget, should we be spending 2,3 million on 'a project'?Itten was a project signing and his first year was about integrating him into the squad and getting him used to the league etc. The boy has played and scored for an international side who would utterly pump Scotland. I have no concerns about his signing or the fee we paid for him.
Do we know that for sure?; if the term "project signing" has ever been applicable, would that not apply more to Kent, or Wright, or even Kamara, as in players who actually play, and improve at the same time? I'm not entirely convinced that Gerrard will keep Itten, there was a notable absence of playing time when he seemed an obvious option.Itten was a project signing and his first year was about integrating him into the squad and getting him used to the league etc. The boy has played and scored for an international side who would utterly pump Scotland. I have no concerns about his signing or the fee we paid for him.
It's a good point, but I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Itten moved on.Dykes is absolute sh%te. Itten is taking a wee bit longer to settle bit then look at someone like Borna. Itten will come good and prove to be a strong valuable member of the squad.
That Itten was viewed by Rangers as a 'project signing' - as you put it - is not unreasonable. Viewed this way, his signing is therefore something of a gamble. The only aspect of which I would question, is that given Rangers still modest transfer budget, should we be spending 2,3 million on 'a project'?
While I agree Dykes is s5ite I can't for the life of me figure out how Itten will force his way into the starting 11, unfortunately I don't think he's the type of player who wants to be bit part or squad player, hes lost his place in the International side and won't get that back until playing regular football week in week out.. Nothing against Itten however I personally don't think he's good enough either, project or not.Dykes is absolute sh%te. Itten is taking a wee bit longer to settle bit then look at someone like Borna. Itten will come good and prove to be a strong valuable member of the squad.
I'd be pretty underwhelmed if he was one of our main midfield targets.Notice that Lundstram still without a club after leaving Shef United .
Id take him in a heartbeat .
"Did Rangers make the wrong call in taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes"Please note that in my original post I didn't advocate that Rangers sign Dykes. I merely made the suggestion that since Dykes was sold for less money than we payed for Itten - who presently is nowhere near commanding a regular first team place - that the 2.3 million Rangers spent in acquiring him might not have been the best use of our transfer funds. I'm aware that some may disagree, but as a proposition it is hardly without merit.
Itten signed a 4 year deal. In a years time your comment, in retrospect, could leave you looking like a total tit. It's a tad early to be having these sorts of discussions imo.
Lyndon Dykes scored 12 goals in 42 games for QPR last season. If we were linked to a striker who scored similar numbers in the Chamionship, would you be content? Would anyone posting on this forum be?
It's a bit of a strange argument. A lot of it based on the assumption that Dykes' game at Livi, would automatically translate well at Rangers. Bit of an unknown really. Docherty and Jones both looked excellent in the SPFL in recent seasons and yet they struggled at Rangers. He may have come here and dislodged Roofe and Alfie for all we know, but looking at the available evidence, that seems fanciful. Clearly though the scouting department thought it was worth spending the extra 700k and signing Itten over signing Dykes.
Yeah mate yeah kick that assI don't think Rangers made the wrong decision because they didn't sign Dykes...I think they made the wrong decision because Itten doesn't appear to be a fast dealer.
He appears to need more time on the ball than he is going to get in Scotland.
He scored plenty of goals in Swiss...but he probably got more time on the ball.
He needs to work that 'low post' move like Fredo and kick that ass out there to box out defenders till he can find his shot.
Somethin...
I don't think Rangers made the wrong decision because they didn't sign Dykes...I think they made the wrong decision because Itten doesn't appear to be a fast dealer.
He appears to need more time on the ball than he is going to get in Scotland.
He scored plenty of goals in Swiss...but he probably got more time on the ball.
He needs to work that 'low post' move like Fredo and kick that ass out there to box out defenders till he can find his shot.
Somethin...
And Jermain Defoe said Itten was one of the nicest, hardest working, talented players he's trained alongside. I'll take his recommendations over a poor centre half's like Ajer.However, it's worth noting that it was celtic's Kristoff Ajer, (I believe) who when asked who, in his opinion, was the most difficult SPL opponent to mark - he replied Lyndon Dykes. Make of it what you will.
Shouldn't have signed either of them imhoIn retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?
No- Dykes is pony and he showed exactly what he lacks during Monday’s game. Gerrard an co clearly look at Itten as a player they can work with and improve.In retrospect, did Rangers make the wrong call when taking a pass on Lyndon Dykes who Livingston later sold to QPR for £2 million, whilst opting instead for Cedric Itten, for whom we paid Basel £2.7 million?