Chris Jack - "Aston Villa on course to name Rangers boss Steven Gerrard as manager"

interbear said:
Conflicted indeed. Does the Gerrard Express stop at New Street? By that I mean how are the Villa fans reacting to this news - excitement or meh?
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A bit of both tbh. My friends and family down there all know what he did for Gers and stopping 10IAR, so they're willing to give him a chance. But they have friends and work colleagues who are coming out with the usual nonsense, "farmers league", "tin pot club" and all that rubbish. The kind of people who've never travelled outside of b'ham their whole lives, so I can't say I value their opinion.
 
iaatpies said:
Why would Newcastle suit him better?

Villa were traditionally a big club in England. They have the potential to attract more fans than Newcastle, have a far more prestigious history than Newcastle and have owners who are equally as willing to throw money at them as Newcastle do now.

People are living in denial if they don't see the potential in Villa. Rich owners. Plan to redevelop the ground and upgrade training and youth facilities. Genuine ambitions of joining that top group of teams down south. Based in a potentially huge catchment area if they can get the locals excited about the club again.
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I think Newcastle have all that plus Saudi backing, and he would have been a great manager for that job. Keep them up then build. Hopefully he smashes it for Villa but all the clubs down there have rich owners and top facilities, I just hope he can seperate them from the rest.
 
bilkobear said:
Sourness wanted to see the season out before moving.
He actually made that a stipulation with Liverpool before agreeing his move.
Murray is no example of loyalty.
Murray ... ffsake!
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Sorry, you'll need to point out where I'm praising murray for loyalty.

The post was a dig at anybody who was thinking of bailing out. As for souness, I like the man, but the glory rightly went to walter who was staying with us. That was the point of my post. Luckily walter was made of sterner stuff and got us across the line.
 
TheDerryend said:
Sorry, you'll need to point out where I'm praising murray for loyalty.

The post was a dig at anybody who was thinking of bailing out. As for souness, I like the man, but the glory rightly went to walter who was staying with us. That was the point of my post. Luckily walter was made of sterner stuff and got us across the line.
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Souness could have stayed and got us over the line.
Murray took the huff and forced him out the door.
Walter got us over the line but it was touch and go.
Murray was always a cvunt.
Souness tried to do the right thing for both himself and the club.

Gerrard is only doing the right thing for himself and Rangers do not feature in the equation.

That is the difference.
 
bilkobear said:
Souness could have stayed and got us over the line.
Murray took the huff and forced him out the door.
Walter got us over the line but it was touch and go.
Murray was always a cvunt.
Souness tried to do the right thing for both himself and the club.

Gerrard is only doing the right thing for himself and Rangers do not feature in the equation.

That is the difference.
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That's your take on it. I am no fan of murray, so stop implying I am.

He was right to tell souness to go. More a chance we could have lost the league with a manager who the players would know was pissing off in a few weeks.

I'm giving the glory of that league championship to walter as for me, especially in the last game, the players gave all to get us there.
 
Lets face it the only reason he was loyal to liverpool was due to his love for that club, we’d all be the same if its Rangers. You’d never want to leave if you were captain of your boyhood club in that league earning a fortune. Other than that, there is no loyalty in football.
 
TheDerryend said:
That's your take on it. I am no fan of murray, so stop implying I am.

He was right to tell souness to go. More a chance we could have lost the league with a manager who the players would know was pissing off in a few weeks.

I'm giving the glory of that league championship to walter as for me, especially in the last game, the players gave all to get us there.
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It's your opinion.
Walter did get us over the line, just.
I am no expert in the minds of players because every individual and every team have their own personal and group dynamics, but it could easily have turned out differently.
Murray in my opinion allowed his emotional response to overwhelm his judgement.
He probably got lucky

It is interesting that you so easily remove all the good work that Souness had done that left us in such a strong winning position towards the end of that season.
 
So Steven Gerrard is gone, we move on.

Disappointed the manger left mid-season but this is an opportunity for us, a new manager and we move on.

We are Rangers, and it is all about the Rangers.
 
The 2nd Mistake Hes Done In His Career Not Going To Chelsea & Now Leaving Us To Go To Villa He Wont Even Last Long There , Villa Will Be In The Bottom 3 By January, Cant Wait To Watch Chelsea Beat Villa On Boxing Day, Will Be Soon On BT Sport & Sky Sports, Get Gio In As Someone I Wanted Before Him & Neil McCann As Assistant Manager
 
bilkobear said:
It's your opinion.
Walter did get us over the line, just.
I am no expert in the minds of players because every individual and every team have their own personal and group dynamics, but it could easily have turned out differently.
Murray in my opinion allowed his emotional response to overwhelm his judgement.
He probably got lucky

It is interesting that you so easily remove all the good work that Souness had done that left us in such a strong winning position towards the end of that season.
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I've no problem with souness. He was leaving, so be it. That's the way football works.

Walter took over and it was the start of the best of times for every Rangers fan. That's not even up for dispute.

My whole point of the original post was if you don't intend to be here, then leave. I'm not bitter about it, it's just the way it is. I still stand for that today as I did back then and if any of our present players want to leave, then they can go too.
 
TheDerryend said:
I've no problem with souness. He was leaving, so be it. That's the way football works.

Walter took over and it was the start of the best of times for every Rangers fan. That's not even up for dispute.

My whole point of the original post was if you don't intend to be here, then leave. I'm not bitter about it, it's just the way it is. I still stand for that today as I did back then and if any of our present players want to leave, then they can go too.
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That is not rational.
At any given time, loads of employees in every occupation known to mankind will harbour intentions to move on, especially in football, especially in football nowadays.

You have to take the emotion out of the equation and respect the professionalism that most people can exhibit in their working life and especially in professional football.

You are a supporter.
The men you watch on Saturday are mostly not.
They are however well paid professional footballers and that is just that.

Deal with it.
 
Well I enjoyed the Gerrard Express while it lasted. Reversed our awful form vs C****c. Rebuilt our European credibility. Delivered 55. All in all, a fine innings. Not perfect by any means but he was learning his trade so the last 3.5 years were good for him and good for Rangers.

I'm disappointed at the timing and style of his departure but thank him for his contribution and we both move on. That's football.
 
Kylegib said:
Gerrard is at the early stages of his managerial career and he can't be standing still especially winning the league then not been given anything to strengthen the team. He had an interview just after we secured the title and said going forward it's very exciting times to be a Rangers fan which suggests he had promises of funding which the board clearly failed to deliver. If he takes the Villa job this is on the board and they'll have a massive job trying to bring someone in with the calibre of Gerrard.
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Haha! What an absolute cuck. But hardly surprising from someone who prior to 55 stated he’d be happy to keep Gerrard around even longer if he went a 3rd season without a trophy.

Have some self respect for fucks sake, attacking the board to protect your demi-god.
 
bilkobear said:
That is not rational.
At any given time, loads of employees in every occupation known to mankind will harbour intentions to move on, especially in football, especially in football nowadays.

You have to take the emotion out of the equation and respect the professionalism that most people can exhibit in their working life and especially in professional football.

You are a supporter.
The men you watch on Saturday are mostly not.
They are however well paid professional footballers and that is just that.

Deal with it.
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I've dealt with it just fine. I have no problems with people leaving, all I'm saying is if you want to leave, that's fine.

No point in hanging around. Like any other job, your mind will be on your future.

Same as I'm against people working their notice.
 
PeterM86 said:
The 2nd Mistake Hes Done In His Career Not Going To Chelsea & Now Leaving Us To Go To Villa He Wont Even Last Long There , Villa Will Be In The Bottom 3 By January, Cant Wait To Watch Chelsea Beat Villa On Boxing Day, Will Be Soon On BT Sport & Sky Sports, Get Gio In As Someone I Wanted Before Him & Neil McCann As Assistant Manager
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Do you put the caps lock on and off before you type the first letter of every word or do you hold shift?
 
TheDerryend said:
I've dealt with it just fine. I have no problems with people leaving, all I'm saying is if you want to leave, that's fine.

No point in hanging around. Like any other job, your mind will be on your future.

Same as I'm against people working their notice.
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I don't understand your viewpoint.
As soon as you sign a contract with a fixed time limit, you are basically working your notice.
Working people in many professions are only in place for a finite time.
You are in a job and you crack on.

People with projects especially are very professional in their tasks.
Footballers are in projects with very specific targets, and Rangers are a club that specialise in the most tantalising targets of all for good professionals.
Good professionals at Rangers may have an eye on their next move, but they will also have their eyes on the next medal as well.
That is why they are good professionals.

There is too much emotion on this forum at this time and people are unable to separate supporting the club from being employed by it.
 
Sad to see him go, he was put on a pedestal and pretty much worshipped by most.
So fùck the scouse cnut.
Villa relegated him sacked and back to training the under 18's at Accrington Stanley.
We move on.
 
bilkobear said:
I don't understand your viewpoint.
As soon as you sign a contract with a fixed time limit, you are basically working your notice.
Working people in many professions are only in place for a finite time.
You are in a job and you crack on.

People with projects especially are very professional in their tasks.
Footballers are in projects with very specific targets, and Rangers are a club that specialise in the most tantalising targets of all for good professionals.
Good professionals at Rangers may have an eye on their next move, but they will also have their eyes on the next medal as well.
That is why they are good professionals.

There is too much emotion on this forum at this time and people are unable to separate supporting the club from being employed by it.
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My original post was about fans talking about chucking it. If you support Rangers that's non negotiable. Only one club ever gets into your blood, that goes for fans of all teams.

Here's my take. Souness and Gerrard came to Rangers to do a job. Did they leave us in a far better place than when they came? That's not even up for dispute.

I have no ill will to any of them, my thought are if you are keen on moving, then go for it.

It is too emotional. The people giving out the abuse would be the first on here demanding getting gerrard out, if we were to go behind celtic, never mind lose the league.
 
TheDerryend said:
My original post was about fans talking about chucking it. If you support Rangers that's non negotiable. Only one club ever gets into your blood, that goes for fans of all teams.

Here's my take. Souness and Gerrard came to Rangers to doa job. Did they leave us in a far better place than when they came. That's not even up for dispute.

I have no ill will to any of them, my thought are if you are keen on moving, then go for it.

It is too emotional. The people giving out the abuse would be the first on here demanding getting gerrard out, if we were to go behind celtic, never mind lose the league.
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I agree.
Sometimes we need to take a step back and look at these things with more dispassion.
I am really gutted that Gerrard has gone, I really did like him as our manager, he has done a great job and carried the position admirably.

Do I understand why he has chosen to leave?
Yes, I can take my Rangers scarf off and I do.
Do I like the way it happened?
No not at all, it is an ugly situation.
Do I blame Gerrard for the timing?
No, the truth is people in professional jobs like football aren't always in control of such things.
Would I welcome Steven back to the ground?
Yes of course, but not just yet whilst things are a bit raw, but in time yes, because he has a legacy with the club and it is a good one.
Where does it leave the club?
Well, the manager has left us in a strong position on the field, the turmoil behind the scenes is a matter of contingency planning and the response of a Board who always knew the day would come.
I expect the Board and the club to thus remain strong at this time, because if not they have failed in their roles.

Now announce Gio! :D
 
PeterM86 said:
The 2nd Mistake Hes Done In His Career Not Going To Chelsea & Now Leaving Us To Go To Villa He Wont Even Last Long There , Villa Will Be In The Bottom 3 By January, Cant Wait To Watch Chelsea Beat Villa On Boxing Day, Will Be Soon On BT Sport & Sky Sports, Get Gio In As Someone I Wanted Before Him & Neil McCann As Assistant Manager
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My Eyes!!!!

That must've taken some effort to type that out
 
bilkobear said:
I agree.
Sometimes we need to take a step back and look at these things with more dispassion.
I am really gutted that Gerrard has gone, I really did like him as our manager, he has done a great job and carried the position admirably.

Do I understand why he has chosen to leave?
Yes, I can take my Rangers scarf off and I do.
Do I like the way it happened?
No not at all, it is an ugly situation.
Do I blame Gerrard for the timing?
No, the truth is people in professional jobs like football aren't always in control of such things.
Would I welcome Steven back to the ground?
Yes of course, but not just yet whilst things are a bit raw, but in time yes, because he has a legacy with the club and it is a good one.
Where does it leave the club?
Well, the manager has left us in a strong position on the field, the turmoil behind the scenes is a matter of contingency planning and the response of a Board who always knew the day would come.
I expect the Board and the club to thus remain strong at this time, because if not they have failed in their roles.

Now announce Gio! :D
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Agreed, thank f**k we have managed to get to the middle ground.

I'll settle for Gio too,but as I've reminded some on another post. If he does the same job as gerrard he'll go to the epl if an offer comes in.

Football has always been cut throat,even more so now than ever.
 
PeterM86 said:
The 2nd Mistake Hes Done In His Career Not Going To Chelsea & Now Leaving Us To Go To Villa He Wont Even Last Long There , Villa Will Be In The Bottom 3 By January, Cant Wait To Watch Chelsea Beat Villa On Boxing Day, Will Be Soon On BT Sport & Sky Sports, Get Gio In As Someone I Wanted Before Him & Neil McCann As Assistant Manager
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It must be harder to put a capital at the start of each word than not? Surely to %^*&.
 
Do you think it is possible that Gerrard told the board a couple of weeks ago that he was for the off to give the board time to sort out a replacement? The board fix up GVB and everybody is happy?
 
bailliestontrueblues said:
Do you think it is possible that Gerrard told the board a couple of weeks ago that he was for the off to give the board time to sort out a replacement? The board fix up GVB and everybody is happy?
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The gushing statement by the board singing his praises suggests you might have something there
 
bailliestontrueblues said:
Do you think it is possible that Gerrard told the board a couple of weeks ago that he was for the off to give the board time to sort out a replacement? The board fix up GVB and everybody is happy?
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Almost as if it would release tension around the training ground, and result in the players turning a corner and start scoring 4 and 6 goals in games... Hm.
 
PeterM86 said:
The 2nd Mistake Hes Done In His Career Not Going To Chelsea & Now Leaving Us To Go To Villa He Wont Even Last Long There , Villa Will Be In The Bottom 3 By January, Cant Wait To Watch Chelsea Beat Villa On Boxing Day, Will Be Soon On BT Sport & Sky Sports, Get Gio In As Someone I Wanted Before Him & Neil McCann As Assistant Manager
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He will last there. You're up.
 
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