OK hawkeyeI Have been watching the equivalent to VAR for years now.You get as many bad judgment calls as good ones.Totally frustrating.In Scotland Rangers will be the brunt of the bad calls,just wait and see.
Add Madden and Don Robertson to this listFrancis Connor
Alan Mulvanny
Kevin Clancy
John Beaton
those four have had more assists for goals for Celtic and contributed to more points than anyone in a Celtic jersey this season.
This is black and white evidence of what we are up against.
Can anybody anywhere, on any forum, tell me how the linesman can get such an easy decision wrong?
Including those on this forum who think we win some and we lose some!
Sakala gave them the option by stopping as if he thought he was offside
Stupidity
The fact that Rangers haven't publicly called out this piece of shit is very worrying. It is bordering on negligence.
I think that particular shambles was another cheat in Alan Mulvaney.....Sorry if already asked. Is this the same guy that was linesman for the cup semi and did not put his flag up when Maeda was 2 yards offside?
Sorry if already asked. Is this the same guy that was linesman for the cup semi and did not put his flag up when Maeda was 2 yards offside?
Which one of them failed to flag mr uwaki against Hearts? Three worst offside decisions of the season, all to the benefit of one team. What’s the chances of that?I think that particular shambles was another cheat in Alan Mulvaney.....
Should be a tri-colour flag these cnuts wave.
Unfortunately, contrary to what you say, VAR would not have helped one little bit in this situation. Think about it, assistant puts his flag up for offside and the ref blows his whistle and stops the game. Then he decides to ask VAR for clarification and VAR informs him the offside decision was wrong. What do we actually get out of it? A dropped ball around the edge of the Celtic penalty box with the entire Celtic team now between the ball and the goal. Hardly benefiting us in any real way. The only way VAR helps us in this situation is if the game is allowed to progress to a conclusion, that conclusion being, hopefully, a goal and then, when the assistant says to the ref "I think there may have been an offside in the build up", VAR can be used to confirm there wasn't.This is where VAR helps
Since two weeks ago!One of the worst decisions I've ever seen!
He wouldn't have put his flag up if we had VAR.Unfortunately, contrary to what you say, VAR would not have helped one little bit in this situation. Think about it, assistant puts his flag up for offside and the ref blows his whistle and stops the game. Then he decides to ask VAR for clarification and VAR informs him the offside decision was wrong. What do we actually get out of it? A dropped ball around the edge of the Celtic penalty box with the entire Celtic team now between the ball and the goal. Hardly benefiting us in any real way. The only way VAR helps us in this situation is if the game is allowed to progress to a conclusion, that conclusion being, hopefully, a goal and then, when the assistant says to the ref "I think there may have been an offside in the build up", VAR can be used to confirm there wasn't.
Quite possibly you are correct but, quite possibly, he may have flagged as he felt it was such a clear offside. For me, in yesterday's incident, the assistant hasn't even seen the Celtic player on the ground only the two Rangers players. Also, what you are then suggesting is that, quite possibly, assistant referees are no longer required, certainly not for making offside calls.He wouldn't have put his flag up if we had VAR.
I don't know who that linesman was but you are right, the number of decisions that have gone their way this season is verging on sinister. The last few weeks in particular have been outrageous and we have been lucky they haven't scored against us from them.Which one of them failed to flag mr uwaki against Hearts? Three worst offside decisions of the season, all to the benefit of one team. What’s the chances of that?
Time these two cheats were outed in the msm, even if it is only on stuff like the DR hotline. Get their cheating out into the public. It’s not incompetence, there’s a defined pattern where only one club benefits.
In a situation like this the ref should keep his flag down with var incase it does become a goal, the worrying thing is these cheats won't let the play run to even get to var.Trouble is even with VAR this wouldn't have been over turned unless we had scored...Does anyone in 'charge' actually look at these decisions at the end of the season ans realize some of the officials are just shoite.
Very concerning IMO.The fact that Rangers haven't publicly called out this piece of shit is very worrying. It is bordering on negligence.
I could be wrong mate but I think that's the idea. Don't put it up and see how the play pans out.Quite possibly you are correct but, quite possibly, he may have flagged as he felt it was such a clear offside. For me, in yesterday's incident, the assistant hasn't even seen the Celtic player on the ground only the two Rangers players. Also, what you are then suggesting is that, quite possibly, assistant referees are no longer required, certainly not for making offside calls.
He wasn’t injured, he had just barged into Goldson in the box which could have been a penalty.Once again the obvious desire of linesman Francis (Frank) Connor to quickly raise the offside flag when an injured Celtic defender was playing Fashion 3 yards onside was shocking.
Totally corrupt.
That could have been the winner if play went on.
All of these small things add up over a season and make a big difference.
Where VAR is in use I’m sure the officials are advised/instructed to let moves play out before raising the flag are they not?Unfortunately, contrary to what you say, VAR would not have helped one little bit in this situation. Think about it, assistant puts his flag up for offside and the ref blows his whistle and stops the game. Then he decides to ask VAR for clarification and VAR informs him the offside decision was wrong. What do we actually get out of it? A dropped ball around the edge of the Celtic penalty box with the entire Celtic team now between the ball and the goal. Hardly benefiting us in any real way. The only way VAR helps us in this situation is if the game is allowed to progress to a conclusion, that conclusion being, hopefully, a goal and then, when the assistant says to the ref "I think there may have been an offside in the build up", VAR can be used to confirm there wasn't.
Must be so difficult to override your automatic reflex to call it correctly as an experienced official ! But he is so highly skilled in the dark arts it comes naturally to the corrupt cheating bastrt.It’s no exaggeration to say Frank connors flag has cost us the title this season. At least 9 points plus a cup as well. The guy must have been so sick last year he made it his mission to maximise the last season before VAR
That was Connor. The same eagle eyed prick denied us a win against Motherwell when at least one of Alfie's goals were onside.Which one of them failed to flag mr uwaki against Hearts? Three worst offside decisions of the season, all to the benefit of one team. What’s the chances of that?
Time these two cheats were outed in the msm, even if it is only on stuff like the DR hotline. Get their cheating out into the public. It’s not incompetence, there’s a defined pattern where only one club benefits.
It’s actually fucking embarrassing that.
A draw suited him…..7 subs
they made 4 us 3
Beaton is a coward and couldn’t wait to get off that pitch
It would helpUnfortunately, contrary to what you say, VAR would not have helped one little bit in this situation. Think about it, assistant puts his flag up for offside and the ref blows his whistle and stops the game. Then he decides to ask VAR for clarification and VAR informs him the offside decision was wrong. What do we actually get out of it? A dropped ball around the edge of the Celtic penalty box with the entire Celtic team now between the ball and the goal. Hardly benefiting us in any real way. The only way VAR helps us in this situation is if the game is allowed to progress to a conclusion, that conclusion being, hopefully, a goal and then, when the assistant says to the ref "I think there may have been an offside in the build up", VAR can be used to confirm there wasn't.
Sorry, I don't know if I made myself clear enough in my earlier posts. What I said was that VAR would not help if play was stopped immediately, as it was yesterday, and then VAR consulted. I did, however, cleary state that if the game is allowed to continue to a temporary conclusion, a goal, and then any dubiety over a possible offside is ruled out, then VAR would be seen to be working.It would help
Because that would highlight that the officials are inept and don’t have the skill set to officiate VAR games
They would have to be moved down a league
Going a whole season(s) with the foul to card ratio tells another story, id argue they are very competent.The officials this season have been nothing short of incompetent. Just like our administration and MSM. We really are getting shafted from all angles. However, we have just not been good enough either. Between having no centre half pairing, no creative midfielder, a keeper who is at the end of his career and strikers who can’t stay fit and scoring for more than a handful of games it’s just been one of those seasons.
That said a Europa semi or final and a Scottish Cup win and I think we need to take it and make sure this summer is managed properly.
If play was stopped immediately when the flag went up in that incident yesterday, it's incorrect procedure from the officials when VAR is in operation.Sorry, I don't know if I made myself clear enough in my earlier posts. What I said was that VAR would not help if play was stopped immediately, as it was yesterday, and then VAR consulted. I did, however, cleary state that if the game is allowed to continue to a temporary conclusion, a goal, and then any dubiety over a possible offside is ruled out, then VAR would be seen to be working.
I also don't see how, in this particular incident, VAR could possibly highlight the incompetence of the assistant referee anymore than the TV pictures already have and I don't expect one iota of recrimination for this decision yesterday. Officials are routinely shown to have made horrendous errors without much, if any, punishment, I don't see VAR changing that.
I'm not against VAR, indeed, like all Rangers supporters, I look forward to it's introduction but it has to be used properly to be effective. I think we all agree on that.
Will no doubt stick his flag up early in the hope players stop, Rangers players need to be told to ignore the flag once var comes in and let that sort it out.My god.
That last offside he gave against us was fucking scandalous.
Rangers need to start compiling videos and complaining to the SFA. Mulvanny and Connor are two of the biggest cheating rats in Scotland.
I can’t wait for VAR to come in as it will mean they can’t effect games against us or for them.
Granted, i've never liked VAR but the decisions in Scottish Football especially for the Scum and against us has made me rethink everything about it.And yet you still get some Rangers fans saying they don’t want VAR in Scottish football!
Correct. The officials are instructed NOT to raise their flags in the full understanding that VAR will assess if an infringement has occurred.Unfortunately, contrary to what you say, VAR would not have helped one little bit in this situation. Think about it, assistant puts his flag up for offside and the ref blows his whistle and stops the game. Then he decides to ask VAR for clarification and VAR informs him the offside decision was wrong. What do we actually get out of it? A dropped ball around the edge of the Celtic penalty box with the entire Celtic team now between the ball and the goal. Hardly benefiting us in any real way. The only way VAR helps us in this situation is if the game is allowed to progress to a conclusion, that conclusion being, hopefully, a goal and then, when the assistant says to the ref "I think there may have been an offside in the build up", VAR can be used to confirm there wasn't.
I can't remember him being involved in any of our games without making a horrendous and costly decision. It's every single time.Surely there is more than enough evidence for the club to call this cheat out
The ref doesn’t blow until the passage has stopped. It’s in their trainingUnfortunately, contrary to what you say, VAR would not have helped one little bit in this situation. Think about it, assistant puts his flag up for offside and the ref blows his whistle and stops the game. Then he decides to ask VAR for clarification and VAR informs him the offside decision was wrong. What do we actually get out of it? A dropped ball around the edge of the Celtic penalty box with the entire Celtic team now between the ball and the goal. Hardly benefiting us in any real way. The only way VAR helps us in this situation is if the game is allowed to progress to a conclusion, that conclusion being, hopefully, a goal and then, when the assistant says to the ref "I think there may have been an offside in the build up", VAR can be used to confirm there wasn't.
Also the number of times he has given them dubious calls in there favour, it's all there if the club can find someone to join the dotsI can't remember him being involved in any of our games without making a horrendous and costly decision. It's every single time.