ForGodForCountryForever
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PSV was the biggest game of the season to that point but was trumped by Celt!c away and the 3 CL matches thus far.
From the perspective of the club, qualifying for the Champions league was massive, and that game was by far the biggest game we've played to date this season.PSV was the biggest game of the season to that point but was trumped by Celt!c away and the 3 CL matches thus far.
Intentions is one thing, self protection is another though.Barring a massive slump in form and results, and / or more shoeings from the Beasts, I think the board will have every intention of giving him next season as well should he fail to win the league this year.
Wouldn’t have got the three CL games had we not won against PSV.PSV was the biggest game of the season to that point but was trumped by Celt!c away and the 3 CL matches thus far.
Correct.Intentions is one thing, self protection is another though.
If the fan base turns heavily against Gio, they’d have to act.
Problem is that Gio doesn’t have the Gerrard persona or presence.
This despite having every bit as much success as a player and a manager.
He just isn’t called Steven Gerrard.
Will be interesting to see how Liverpool do vs arsenal today. Will put things in perspective if they actually have upped their game or we just made it easyLast two league performances have been great.
But Tuesday was awful - very lucky not to be 6/7.
Look at Ancelloti, he’s not really a shouting balling arse kicker but gets results.Correct.
I posted the other day to say that I think there’s a superficiality at play among a lot of fans on here.
Gerrard is perceived as a heart on the sleeve born-winner, the embodiment of British pluck and vigour, one who roars passionately into the camera after beating the Beasts all of which strikes a chord with the support, whereas Gio is thought of as more sedate and reserved, even timid and boring by some on here and that just won’t do at all.
Ultimately for many it comes down to what he does against the Yahoos. If he beats them in all of the remaining three league games but loses the title, you get the impression that will be accepted by some on here and conversely that if he lost all three but somehow won the league those same people would still have nagging doubts about him.
It’s a very parochial mindset, IMO.
This is exactly what it is. Gio has more folk calling for him to go after winning 4-0 at Tynecastle than Gerrard did after losing 1-0 at home to Hamilton. The difference being Old Firm records.Correct.
I posted the other day to say that I think there’s a superficiality at play among a lot of fans on here.
Gerrard is perceived as a heart on the sleeve born-winner, the embodiment of British pluck and vigour, one who roars passionately into the camera after beating the Beasts all of which strikes a chord with the support, whereas Gio is thought of as more sedate and reserved, even timid and boring by some on here and that just won’t do at all.
Ultimately for many it comes down to what he does against the Yahoos. If he beats them in all of the remaining three league games but loses the title, you get the impression that will be accepted by some on here and conversely that if he lost all three but somehow won the league those same people would still have nagging doubts about him.
It’s a very parochial mindset, IMO.
The club won’t be; it’s really only a vocal minority on here that have convinced themselves sticking with Gio is to back a loser and it’s based primarily on his record against Celtic as far as I can see.I don't see a realistic change in management that guarantees a better position to what we are in now. There is no reason I see currently that should make us consider looking for a change. Football can change quickly and that may change, or it may prove justified, but we shouldn't currently be in a position of contemplating this.
They are allowed a point but some have gone crazy on it and are really needing to take a look at themselves as negative threads on Gio are all they post.The club won’t be; it’s really only a vocal minority on here that have convinced themselves sticking with Gio is to back a loser and it’s based primarily on his record against Celtic as far as I can see.
Hilariously bad post, possibly worst post of the year so far.No, it’s not.
His record against Celtic is atrocious and clinging onto an extra time win in a cup game to try and justify his old firm record is mental.
The fact is that league games only last for 90 minutes and Gio has never proven he can beat the mentally challengeds in regulation time.
Not only has he not managed to win an old firm game in 90 minutes, he’s overseen two absolute pumpings in that time too.
In your opinion, Gio may have proven he is capable of beating the mentally challengeds because we won the cup semi in extra time but for me it proved nothing.
I genuinely hope as time passes and history sets in (and feelings of being scorned as he left) that some people finally appreciate just how much the Gerrard era brought us forward. What we done during that time was ridiculous. Like u say that dodgy cup final loss, then breaking their 10-in a row, getting 55, massively over achieving in Europe, smashing old firms…Worth also pointing out the state we were in though, we were never going to win the first game. Remember before Gerrard we were hoping it wasn't 5+ goals let In. We never let more than 2 goals in across gerrards whole tenure I believe, domestically.
Also one of those losses in your first part was a cup final where their goal game from having 3 players offside and we absolutely thrashed them in one of the most one sided old firms I've ever seen (the one Alfie missed a penalty and about 20 sitters.. if we had cokak we could have been looking st a 10-0 scoreline).
Gerrards record against them was remarkable even when we lost we didn't get battered and in some cases like above we actually battered them so convincingly that even though they were given the win through a dodgy decision, all of their fans knew they were battered.
Coinciding with Kent being dropped…As long as he keeps winning domestically he will be the manager. 4-0 away to hearts, and 4-0 against 3rd in the table St Mirren who beat the scum last week.
Hopefully that’s us turning a bit of a corner domestically. Some really fast play and direct passing today.
I'll take it back one step. Overturning a 2 nil away defeat in Europe, against difficult opposition, for the first in the clubs history.Wouldn’t have got the three CL games had we not won against PSV.
Yes, a dramatic change in the consistency of our away results. You can isolate it to this season, but you and I both know that the issues from last season are still there.A dramatic change in consistency?
If we discount Hibs, which we should due to Collum, the only game we havent taken maximum points in this season is Celtic!
"Should've been out of sight" a saying that really holds no merit as outwith maybe Man City there arent any teams that convert every chance they create. Its just not how football works.
No, I’m basing my views on the overall evidence of the last 9 months. We only have 4 or 5 away leagues games this season, do you want me to just ignore those debacles from Jan-Apr because there was a summer break?So just basing your view on last season? Because you think he 'cost us' the league? And can't get past it?
A team that we should never have been 2 goals behind in the first place but it was a great comebackI'll take it back one step. Overturning a 2 nil away defeat in Europe, against difficult opposition, for the first in the clubs history.
And we did it convincingly.
I agree I still have serious doubts he's the man but we must win this league and we need to be united although there are numerous games before it the next old firm is huge if we don't win Gio will under big pressureTime to get behind the players and manager again we're hitting form now domestically with the tims struggling. Let's look forward and not back.
Always look on the bright side of life dododododododoA team that we should never have been 2 goals behind in the first place but it was a great comeback
Agreed that we shouldn't have been. But having a look at how they are doing in the Europa League shows that were no mugs.A team that we should never have been 2 goals behind in the first place but it was a great comeback
Livingston, we won that game and also got a good goal chalked off.No, I’m basing my views on the overall evidence of the last 9 months. We only have 4 or 5 away leagues games this season, do you want me to just ignore those debacles from Jan-Apr because there was a summer break?
Let’s look at this season then…
The first half at Livi was one of the worst I’ve seen under Gio.
Not taking our chances at Easter Rd and allowing Hibs back into it twice.
4-0 at Parkhead speaks for itself.
First proper performance was at Tynecastle.
If you think everything is dandy, then fine.
And on a side note, why are you putting ‘cost us’ the league in quotation marks when I said no such thing? You just made that part up.
The game against them was terrible.Livingston, we won that game and also got a good goal chalked off.
Hibs away Morelos let us down and lost us the points, a game we were winning easily.
The game against them was terrible.
Time to be more positive.
Did you want me to say it was fantastic?The game against them was terrible.
Time to be more positive.
LOL
I’m not being negative, I’m being honest, it was rotten. We did what we’ve done all too often at places like Livi, gave ourselves a mountain to climb.Did you want me to say it was fantastic?
Obviously, you are being negative even when we will as you mentioned Livingston game.
Agreed, but he’ll need to take the blame for the first leg.I'll take it back one step. Overturning a 2 nil away defeat in Europe, against difficult opposition, for the first in the clubs history.
And we did it convincingly.
Absolutely no doubt about it.Agreed, but he’ll need to take the blame for the first leg.
Very true.Absolutely no doubt about it.
No denying that they made club history though and that USG are proving to be quite handy in Europe.
So credit where credits due.
I saw him get quite emotional/agitated at times and thought it was unusual for him, if honest I like to see a manager get like this occasionally it shows the support they care although in reality it has little effect on the gameAnybody else think Gio's demeanour was a bit different yesterday? Watching him on the touchline, he definitely looked a bit more pissed off/serious, then his usually genial/affable attitude in the press conference was replaced with something a bit more stoic, serious and a bit miffed.
Probably reading too much into it, and in no way am I part of the 'Gio out' brigrade, but I wonder whether he's caught wind of some of the criticism and thinks it's unfair, and has gone into a determined mode of just getting the job done/'ill show them'
Spot on mateI genuinely hope as time passes and history sets in (and feelings of being scorned as he left) that some people finally appreciate just how much the Gerrard era brought us forward. What we done during that time was ridiculous. Like u say that dodgy cup final loss, then breaking their 10-in a row, getting 55, massively over achieving in Europe, smashing old firms…
He’s out on the tiles.Also, the options to replace him. Think we'll be surprised at who this board will eventually go for whether it's for next season or the season after.
Beale would likely be on most people's lists especially if he does well at QPR. But is he our level of ambition? Doubt we'd get the likes of Tedesco or whoever has been mentioned on the European stage.
It's the directors that need to go starting with Robertson who doesn't give a stuff about what we think and is never in our corner,and Graeme Park.Unfortunately this is nonsense. You sell your best players, you step up a European division to the Champions League, you're 2 points behind in your domestic league (nearly level yesterday..) and many want to give him the bullet? What do all the naysayers want - him to buy replacements out of his own pocket? He captained the Netherlands to the World Cup Final in 2010, took Rangers to the Europa League Final last season (who has forgotten that and more to the point, who expected it?) - he definitely knows what he is doing.....