If the officials had done their job properly today ,and disallowed Hibs second goal , which was clearly offside . Then Rangers would have won the game ..?
That is fact whatever way you look at it , and nothing to do with what colour of specs you wear
That was not the only reason we failed to win today.
Blaming the officials every time we drop points is sticking your head in the sand.
It’s also for the Yahoos.
If no one speaks up at Rangers like Celtic did years ago, then whats the point?
These ref scouts brung in the refs on show when there was talk of bias. Now its just corrupt.
Cant blame officials for dropping points. The game should have been dead and buried if we took chances. The best teams take their chances and thats a brutally honest opinionThis is the ultimate head in the sand way of thinking.
Missing chances is part of football and is accepted as par for the course. Not officiating the game to rules of the law week in week out is not, and should not, ever accepted as par for the course. It's sheer incompetence and in many cases, blatant cheating which in the long run will seriously hurt us.
I am not on here to blame any player as every player has a bad game but we as a team have not progressed one bit since last season. The blame has to fall on the management team, they don't seem to learn from previous seasons mistakes. Not for one minute do I suggest we change the coaching staff at this point but if at the end of the season and no progress is made, then im afraid its time for them to go.
Lets no kid ourselves, the refs are useless.If the ref or linesman does his job are you even posting this? just asking out of curiosity.
Lets no kid ourselves, the refs are useless.
I agree with every post you've made. I said on a previous thread that around 20 years ago, Celtic went to schools to encourage catholic boys to become refs. And I wager that catholics are over represented today at ref school or trainee ref level. They may be Khunts but mugs they are not.not useless, corrupt. They know what they are doing. Look at Don Roberston stats for the games we are involved in. And look at his near 100% for celtic. He has nearly got 100% win rate for them bar 1. And they made his life hell for daring to allow them to draw.
I was thinking the same.I am beginning to wonder if there is something more to our board inability or unwillingness to speak out about blatant decisions.
Well it is actually.No, what I’m saying is it’s not the only reason we dropped points today.
On the contrary, they are anything but useless.Lets no kid ourselves, the refs are useless.
Or 3 1 or 4 1 as that's how the game was going. It meant chucking on Defoe and Itten and completely altering the shape and rhythmWell it is actually.
Their offside goal gets called back and we win 2-1
It`s that fkkin simple.
I agree with every post you've made. I said on a previous thread that around 20 years ago, Celtic went to schools to encourage catholic boys to become refs. And I wager that catholics are over represented today at ref school or trainee ref level. They may be Khunts but mugs they are not.
A. Why was Hibs first goal scorer allowed to stay on the park after the Achilles scrape on Kent?
B. Why was their 2nd goal not offside and then why was it not a foul on Helander when their player uses his hand for leverage on him?
Their two goals. Yet no one at Ibrox or in the mhedia will mention it. It is becoming a case that no matter what, as soon as we put in a challenge the officials will do all they can to stop it. It is very evident.
This has been the Stewart Regan era. When these refs were hand picked for a reason. Celtic complained and the next batch were chosen not on their ability.
Well it is actually.
Their offside goal gets called back and we win 2-1
It`s that fkkin simple.
The ref or linesman had nothing to do with these chances.Alfie, Kent or Arfield bury their chances we win 3-2.
It’s also that simple.
The ref or linesman had nothing to do with these chances.
It`s that simple.
The Kent one isn't a red card its a yellow which Robertson didn't give. He saw Clancy let Dundee United do it 3 times last week and not take any action.
The goal is offside but it doesn't excuse our defending for the goal. The bigger issue is how he can see Hanlon do what he does and think its only yellow and how Gogic avoided a booking despite numerous fouls.
cannot dissagree. we cannot even get blatant penalties
Cant blame officials for dropping points. The game should have been dead and buried if we took chances. The best teams take their chances and thats a brutally honest opinion
Errors on their second goal.
a) Barisic header
b) Goldson ‘clearance’
c) Tavernier not stopping cross
d) Helander letting forward run at him rather than stepping out towards the forward.
Biased/ incompetent linesman yes but let’s be honest the defending was rank.
OK let`s rewind mate.Eh? You’re confusing me confusing yourself there bud.
There seems to be this constant need to divert attention away from our own obvious shortcomings onto the officials.
They undoubtedly play their part and that’s something the board do need to sort out, but they’re not the only reason we’re dropping points, and that’s something Steven Gerrard needs to sort out.
Are you now allowed to use another for leverage and in doing so keep them grounded. %^*& me.
go watch clip above this was the same wanker last year. Or if too long ago watch him after our first game after the winter break at Killie. He is not a st ninians lad for nothing.
And allow goals against us that shouldn't stand *No but they can stop us scoring.
We get that mate, but the officials do there job, it`s still 2-1 to the Rangers. The pish poor defending is irrelevant.Errors on their second goal.
a) Barisic header
b) Goldson ‘clearance’
c) Tavernier not stopping cross
d) Helander letting forward run at him rather than stepping out towards the forward.
Biased/ incompetent linesman yes but let’s be honest the defending was rank.
We get that mate, but the officials do there job, it`s still 2-1 to the Rangers. The pish poor defending is irrelevant.
Top post mate.You can say we missed such and such chance all you want but end of the day we scored 2 good goals, hibs scored 1 good goal. Any other day we’ve won the game. We shouldn’t have to score 1 more goal because of officials incompetence. If Celtic went there and won 2-1 all you would hear is that’s what champions do. Refs are costing us week after week and the cunts that say oh we should just score more goals does my tits in. It doesn’t work like that, you’re going to have tight 1 goal wins and if the offficials are shafting you then you’ve no chance. We should’ve score more yes today but we didn’t, but we still done enough to win the game without officials intervention
You can say we missed such and such chance all you want but end of the day we scored 2 good goals, hibs scored 1 good goal. Any other day we’ve won the game. We shouldn’t have to score 1 more goal because of officials incompetence. If Celtic went there and won 2-1 all you would hear is that’s what champions do. Refs are costing us week after week and the cunts that say oh we should just score more goals does my tits in. It doesn’t work like that, you’re going to have tight 1 goal wins and if the offficials are shafting you then you’ve no chance. We should’ve score more yes today but we didn’t, but we still done enough to win the game without officials intervention
not useless, corrupt. They know what they are doing. Look at Don Roberston stats for the games we are involved in. And look at his near 100% for celtic. He has nearly got 100% win rate for them bar 1. And they made his life hell for daring to allow them to draw.
The ref scouts employed by Regan made sure the catholic minority of our country would be the majority in representation.
The cull started after Mcdonald. The likes of collum and clancy promoted to fifa elite level, and the new batch of ref like Robertson fast tracked. They are not mugs thats for sure. They have every avenue sorted.,
As soon as competition arises in steps collum (cup final) or clancy parkhead or Robertson like today. Just like when he got our first game back after winter break against killie. He allows us to be kicked up and down the park.
Those that cant see a pattern are deluded, mentally challenged WumS or blinded and naive.
Alfie, Kent or Arfield bury their chances we win 3-2.
It’s also that simple.
So, cheated, never defeated?
Where have I heard that before?
I agree with your sentiments if not that Wright’s was a red card.A. Why was Hibs first goal scorer allowed to stay on the park after the Achilles scrape on Kent?
B. Why was their 2nd goal not offside and then why was it not a foul on Helander when their player uses his hand for leverage on him?
Their two goals. Yet no one at Ibrox or in the mhedia will mention it. It is becoming a case that no matter what, as soon as we put in a challenge the officials will do all they can to stop it. It is very evident.
This has been the Stewart Regan era. When these refs were hand picked for a reason. Celtic complained and the next batch were chosen not on their ability.
I think the stamp on is a Kent was a yellow tbf but you are 100% correct with the 2nd. Two offences missed.FFS
Have what I said untrue?
You are the exact reason we get shat on!
So go on then.
Did the lad that achilles scrapped Kent deserve to still be on the park when he scored?
Ws their 2nd goal legit?
If not then fck up. Your mentality is what is wrong at our club.
I agree with your sentiments if not that Wright’s was a red card.
I just don’t think mentioning it after every game will help. What will happen?
The club or the guy speaking out will get punished
The media will get to wank themselves silly about how bad losers we are. Remember Pedro tried this
The referee will get a good laugh knowing his bosses will give him extra brownie points for upsetting the huns
Some idiot with Bheggar dna in his genes will Chuck a brick through Clancys window
And you set the mindset of the players that they are going to lose anyway so why go the extra mile
I don’t Gerrard will be overly concerned with the first four but I don’t think he wants to offer the players excuses
I absolutely agree they should do something but I think it needs to be much more impactful and it needs to be more unpleasant. I am in no way condoning threats of violence but there is a reason bheast fc get decisions from every ref- not just the Bheggars. Refs are terrified of giving a decision in our favour.
I don’t have a solution but if I was the club I’d be looking to other ways to apply pressure. The difference between me/most of us and the chunts though is all I want is impartial refs whilst they want and get every decision in every game. It’s probably easier to put pressure on when you’re looking for the extreme position.
I only have 2 suggestions off the top of my head
1/ publicise through the back door who a refs employers are and have corporate bears apply commercial pressure there
2/ go after the media not calling out the cheating rather than the refs themselves. Make it distinctly unpleasant for reporters and stream the press conferences with a camera on them. The latter part I’d do anyway for a whole host of reasons.
Both us and the officials were at fault today. It's daft to focus on one and ignore the other.