Modern Fans vs Rangers Da's

[somervillain]

The current guys earn at least two or three times the wages and have just reached a European Final. We have just sold a player for double our record outlay too.

12m in 2000 would be 20m plus in today prices so we definitely didnt

 

[prenzlauerbear]

The benefit of being slightly older is that we have enjoyed watching so many Rangers teams and players coming and going. So maybe the younger fans should respect our judgement and opinions a bit more rather than calling us Rangers Da's which is pathetic patter.

Yeah, because opinions like this — Ryan Kent lacks a football brain — really shines a positive light on the more seasoned FF user.

 

[sheddensbear]

Football constantly changes and most people change with it. The Guardiola style football will eventually pass and a new style will emerge.
British fans love a tackle and get a bit impatient if the ball doesn't get forward quickly enough.

 

[Neild79]

Domestically Smiths early-mid 90s team beats any later era. They had the skill to destroy the jobbers but also the grit and determination to match them for effort and physicality.

Advocaat’s first 2 years gave us our best European side. The CL group with PSV, Valencia and Bayern is the best I’ve seen us.

There are 1 or 2 current players who could’ve played in those sides but generally the earlier teams were of a higher standard.

In particular, prime Hateley would embarrass the current defence.

The way we defend corners Hateley would destroy them.
4 Players from our past could probably beat our current team.
Greig, Gazza, Laudrup & Hateley.
Greig passes to Gazza, goes on a mazyt run, slips it to Laudrup, flys down the wing & crosses for Hateley to head it home.
All day long lol

Surprised to see no Davie Cooper in the OP squad.

 

[RangersEasyOK!]

The way we defend corners Hateley would destroy them.
4 Players from our past could probably beat our current team.
Greig, Gazza, Laudrup & Hateley.
Greig passes to Gazza, goes on a mazyt run, slips it to Laudrup, flys down the wing & crosses for Hateley to head it home.
All day long lol

Surprised to see no Davie Cooper in the OP squad.

If you get to make up random hypotheticals then surely someone else can make up same random hypothetical to counter your claim.

 

[Neild79]

If you get to make up random hypotheticals then surely someone else can make up same random hypothetical to counter your claim.

I was being sarcastic.
The original idea is ludicrous, which is why I hate things like this & who's better Pele or Messi

 

[RangersEasyOK!]

I was being sarcastic.
The original idea is ludicrous, which is why I hate things like this & who's better Pele or Messi

I was going to say I get to claim every player in the future in my counter scenario

Someone picks from a crop of players from decades to be pitted against a team for the last two seasons

 

[WinkieWATP]

Football constantly changes and most people change with it. The Guardiola style football will eventually pass and a new style will emerge.
British fans love a tackle and get a bit impatient if the ball doesn't get forward quickly enough.

I don’t think it changes as drastically as some people like to make out. Souness said people make out that attacking fullbacks are a new thing YT he played in Liverpool sides where fullbacks scored in European Cup finals for example.

 

[Tommy48]

Speaking as a Rangers Granda, almost great granda age wise, if you gave my favourite team all the specialist stuff they have now, sports science, nutrition, video replays etc. etc. oh and coffee they would wipe the floor with most of our "modern" teams. My fav team the Ritchie, Shearer, Callow era who regularly got to European semis and finals.

 

[Mustang mad]

I was being sarcastic.
The original idea is ludicrous, which is why I hate things like this & who's better Pele or Messi

its a football discussion forum, its good to talk about football rather than shareholders, taxmen, child abuse, retail deals etc.

 

[Arlo]

I wonder how much impact the improved fitness and recovery of current players would have.

We’d be a much better side with the team of yesteryear and current methods. We had players who talent wise could have been real world beaters, but a lot of them loved smoking, drinking and shite food to their downfall on European competition.

 

[crmpicco]

I disagree Advocaats first two years were our best Euro side.

This team beat better sides, Advocaats team failed against teams we would expect to beat now (Kaiserslautern/Strum Graz etc).

They played lovely football, got some good one off results but ultimately failed when the going got hard

I’m 38 and our current Euro form is the best in my lifetime. Consistent results and good performances. The last time we were embarrassed was Progres and that was 5 years ago

 

[Otis Blue]

Yeah, because opinions like this — Ryan Kent lacks a football brain — really shines a positive light on the more seasoned FF user.

I was referring to opinions on standard of Rangers players of the past and standard of football of the past because we’ve witnessed it live. A comment like the one your refer to is ridiculous no matter what age.

 

[adidasler]

Fantastic player. Very underrated when it comes to great players that have played for us.

Played over 100 games and had spells where he just looked like he was playing a different game.

 

[WinkieWATP]

Played over 100 games and had spells where he just looked like he was playing a different game.

Especially pre Marseilles.

 

[looway]

I wonder how much impact the improved fitness and recovery of current players would have.

Rangers have always been the fittest team in the land. The 9 in a row team would've wiped the floor with this team. Football was tough twenty years ago too.

 

[True blue 1]

My era as well! I was talking more about the Rangers Da vs football hipster rather than the team of old vs now.

"Get it forward" is the kind of the thing you get from the usually less informed fan. The guys at Ibrox who shout "just hit it" at any point, or want a more direct ball forward instead of patient play.

It's not a modern thing. It's not a new vs old fan. It's a less informed vs informed fan. The Rangers Da has always been at games, has always had folk rolling their eyes with their opinions. Just now because football is so stat focused it seems like a young vs old thing.

So wit ur meanin mate is a clued up fan v a clueless fan basically

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

Yeah they did at times.

Its made out we played amazing football all the times with Gazza and Laudrup where as we were utterly turgid at times and embarrassing in Europe

We were utterly turgid and embarrassing in Europe just three weeks ago. And probably against lesser opposition than we faced in 94-96. Not that I am defending what we had to suffer back then.

 

[WinkieWATP]

My era as well! I was talking more about the Rangers Da vs football hipster rather than the team of old vs now.

"Get it forward" is the kind of the thing you get from the usually less informed fan. The guys at Ibrox who shout "just hit it" at any point, or want a more direct ball forward instead of patient play.

It's not a modern thing. It's not a new vs old fan. It's a less informed vs informed fan. The Rangers Da has always been at games, has always had folk rolling their eyes with their opinions. Just now because football is so stat focused it seems like a young vs old thing.

Sometimes there is nothing wrong with getting it forward a bit quicker. We were getting penned in and giving the ball away needlessly in the first 15 minutes of the second half on Tuesday night for example.

 

[TerrySilverLoyal]

If hating ‘getting minutes in the players legs’ phrase makes me a rangers da..then I’m a rangers da

 

[Farkimedes]

I'd batter any Rangers da. Auld bastards.

 

[RangersEasyOK!]

We were utterly turgid and embarrassing in Europe just three weeks ago. And probably against lesser opposition than we faced in 94-96. Not that I am defending what we had to suffer back then.

That the team we went through against?

Aye?

 

[looway]

So wit ur meanin mate is a clued up fan v a clueless fan basically

Sometimes the just hit it shout is the right choice and we choose the wrong option. That's poor play not a clueless fan. Keeping possession is fine as long as it leads somewhere. Sometimes we don't make the most of shooting opportunities when we should because we don't have the creativity to pass them up.

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

That the team we went through against?

Aye?

And your point is?

 

[WinkieWATP]

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[True blue 1]

Sometimes the just hit it shout is the right choice and we choose the wrong option. That's poor play not a clueless fan. Keeping possession is fine as long as it leads somewhere. Sometimes we don't make the most of shooting opportunities when we should because we don't have the creativity to pass them up.

A can see the point in people sayin get it foward if ur drawing at home way some spl team or shoot if your on the edge of the box a don’t hink that’s got anything to do way rangers das n modern fans

 

[Barry Slimfit]

Rangers have always been the fittest team in the land. The 9 in a row team would've wiped the floor with this team. Football was tough twenty years ago too.

I think fitness, diet and nutrition, recovery, training, sports science is far superior now. A better team then? Yes. Fitter? Not a chance.

 

[Cowan_rfc]

Do I qualify for being a rangers da. I'm 34 and have 3 weans.

But all the old misty eyed pricks talking down the current era team who just got to a final compared to having Cooper score v Valleta.

 

[RangersEasyOK!]

And your point is?

Trying to figure out what your point was to be fair

 

[GovanFront4]

I think the rangers da patter is mainly aimed at guys who shout “for %^*& sake get it in the box” when Borna takes a touch at the half way line, as opposed to ALL older fans.

Absolutely this. It's not something to take serious, just a poke at old fashioned views of the game I think.

 

[GovanFront4]

Do I qualify for being a rangers da. I'm 34 and have 3 weans.

But all the old misty eyed pricks talking down the current era team who just got to a final compared to having Cooper score v Valleta.

As good as Cooper was there's no doubt there's a nostalgia around him. Very inconsistent and nowhere near the level of Laudrup as some people compare him to.

 

[looway]

I think fitness, diet and nutrition, recovery, training, sports science is far superior now. A better team then? Yes. Fitter? Not a chance.

I'm sure Alfie, Helander and Ryan Jack agree.

 

[WinkieWATP]

As good as Cooper was there's no doubt there's a nostalgia around him. Very inconsistent and nowhere near the level of Laudrup as some people compare him to.

Most people I know consider BL to be the greatest player we have ever had.

 

[BN94]

Modern fans? Rangers Da’s? It really annoys me that patter. Watching you young ones wearing the gear we were wearing in the late 80’s and 90’s is another.
I’m glad I’m a Rangers da. You young ones have no idea.
Here we go. I’m expecting incoming

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

Trying to figure out what your point was to be fair

You made the point that some of our stuff in Europe in the Gazza and Laudrup period was turgid and embarrassing. Absolutely no argument from me on that score.

However, there's only one way to compare the eras then. And that'll be if the current squad prove on Wednesday that they are good enough to get into the CL and then we'll see how they fare in the biggies' playground.

 

[WinkieWATP]

You made the point that some of our stuff in Europe in the Gazza and Laudrup period was turgid and embarrassing. Absolutely no argument from me on that score.

However, there's only one way to compare the eras then. And that'll be if the current squad prove on Wednesday that they are good enough to get into the CL and then we'll see how they fare in the biggies' playground.

Somebody else said this modern squad would have won 15IAR even though every team in the league bar the Scum is far poorer than they were back then.

Aberdeen for example had McLeish and Miller who would probably be the best CH pairing in this league by an absolute mile.

 

[Clementime]

Rangers Da’s is utterly honking patter.

The worst.

 

[RangersEasyOK!]

Somebody else said this modern squad would have won 15IAR even though every team in the league bar the Scum is far poorer than they were back then.

Aberdeen for example had McLeish and Miller who would probably be the best CH pairing in this league by an absolute mile.

McLeish and Miller better than Gough and Butcher?

 

[WinkieWATP]

McLeish and Miller better than Gough and Butcher?

Read the post again ya dick

 

[Barry Slimfit]

I'm sure Alfie, Helander and Ryan Jack agree.

Yeah, because we never had injuries during 9IAR.

 

[BobbyShearer]

You made the point that some of our stuff in Europe in the Gazza and Laudrup period was turgid and embarrassing. Absolutely no argument from me on that score.

However, there's only one way to compare the eras then. And that'll be if the current squad prove on Wednesday that they are good enough to get into the CL and then we'll see how they fare in the biggies' playground.

You can’t be serious, the hurdles put in front of teams like us nowadays are worlds away from the mid 90s.

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

Somebody else said this modern squad would have won 15IAR even though every team in the league bar the Scum is far poorer than they were back then.

Aberdeen for example had McLeish and Miller who would probably be the best CH pairing in this league by an absolute mile.

15iar? They spunked the league last year with 6 points of a lead.

 

[cloodie]

You made the point that some of our stuff in Europe in the Gazza and Laudrup period was turgid and embarrassing. Absolutely no argument from me on that score.

However, there's only one way to compare the eras then. And that'll be if the current squad prove on Wednesday that they are good enough to get into the CL and then we'll see how they fare in the biggies' playground.

The disparity in financial terms has completely changed European level. Back in the 90's we were one of the richest clubs in Europe. These days, along with various other well known names from the past, we are way way down the financial pecking order and the gap between us and the top teams is vast.

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

Yeah, because we never had injuries during 9IAR.

The only full strength team we played in an OF match during our nine was the first one. The 5-1 game.

 

[Avalonpark]

The main difference is Dads trying to do the bouncy compared to the more athletic modern fans.

 

[WinkieWATP]

15iar? They spunked the league last year with 6 points of a lead.

The point I was trying to make was barring the Scum (even they were better than their current lot from about 6 onwards) every single other team were far better than they are today.

 

[wee bud's pit boots]

The disparity in financial terms has completely changed European level. Back in the 90's we were one of the richest clubs in Europe. These days, along with various other well known names from the past, we are way way down the financial pecking order and the gap between us and the top teams is vast.

No one is disputing this.

Also the fact that certain countries can have four teams in the CL sections is not only preposterous it is simply unjust.

That is not the main point for me on this thread.

There are a great many on here and you just need to look at the condescending posts and the arrogant tones on the threads and you realise what seems like the majority on here think we are bubbling just under Europe's elite.

Mainly based on one fantastic Europa League run last season.

Let's wait and see what transpires on Wednesday before getting carried away with ourselves.

 

[Willger]

In terms of ability for me only James Tavernier gets into the OPs team, but there's so much more to football than a talented group of individuals. Our current run in Europe is the best I can ever recall, and I can go back a fair bit, I put that down to the tactical awareness, organization and discipline of our last two managers and respective coaching staffs.

 

[looway]

Yeah, because we never had injuries during 9IAR.

That's my point mate. We had guys who had to recover from tough games and be ready to go again back then too.

 

[Arminius]

I wonder how much impact the improved fitness and recovery of current players would have.

This is a massive point.

Many of our first team players were bevvy merchants and on 20 a day snouts back in my day.