Appreciate we’re due to find out soon enough how many points will be required for each tier but anyone got any inclination if the points thresholds are going to be roughly the same for next season? (Good news for me if they are
Agreed.Don’t think they should be dropping a year off next season to be honest as nobody has been able to use MyGers yet.
The points and tiers people are on as it stands right now should also be the case for next season.
Don’t think they should be dropping a year off next season to be honest as nobody has been able to use MyGers yet.
The points and tiers people are on as it stands right now should also be the case for next season.
I’ve said this repeatedly, will be interesting to see if it’s been taken on board or not.
The notion that points can’t just be added added to the totals and then correct the rolling period the following season is a nonsense.
I’ll be gold regardless but I still don’t think it’s right to have points removed when we’ve been unable to buy away tickets
To be fair, everyone is/was in the same boat in terms of not being able to gain points. So no one is really being disadvantaged.I’ve said this repeatedly, will be interesting to see if it’s been taken on board or not.
The notion that points can’t just be added added to the totals and then correct the rolling period the following season is a nonsense.
I’ll be gold regardless but I still don’t think it’s right to have points removed when we’ve been unable to buy away tickets
To be fair, everyone is/was in the same boat in terms of not being able to gain points. So no one is really being disadvantaged.
That is assuming the club actually look at, for example, taking the top 30% of fans’ points as a basis for Gold, Silver, etc. each year then we should be fine.
Although that kind of talk does smack of the original thread where people were very precious about being in Gold and/or not losing their Gold status.
I understand that, and that’s why I suggested the club would hopefully have a percentage of fans in each tier. Otherwise, in 5 years everyone could, in theory, be in the top tier. Or, if we don’t enter a football stadium for 5 years, everyone will be in the bottom tier.It’s a massive advantage for fans that didn’t have STs in 15/16 and 16/17 and fans that hadn’t signed up to CCCS in those seasons
With that in mind, not everyone’s in the same boat - essentially you could have people in Silver/Bronze be propelled up the list due to a technicality considering fans haven’t been able to make purchases this season. That’s not right
I understand that, and that’s why I suggested the club would hopefully have a percentage of fans in each tier. Otherwise, in 5 years everyone could, in theory, be in the top tier. Or, if we don’t enter a football stadium for 5 years, everyone will be in the bottom tier.
And, by buying things to achieve ‘bonus’ points this year (such as programmes), people who will hope to move up a tier will actually be disadvantaged by what your suggesting, no?
I understand that it’s all easily done to just include 6 years worth of points. But everyone’s in the same situation this year and if, like I said, the club has considered percentages before creating their tier limits, then no one will be disadvantaged if the points from 5 years ago drop off?No, they wouldn’t be disadvantaged as the club could just add this years accumulated points onto their starting total for 20/21 instead of having points drop off. It’s easily done, no?
I’ve played the game and bought all the additional “bonus” products to get the additional points too
Do the points carry forward from year to year?
I understand that it’s all easily done to just include 6 years worth of points. But everyone’s in the same situation this year and if, like I said, the club has considered percentages before creating their tier limits, then no one will be disadvantaged if the points from 5 years ago drop off?
Sorry mate, I’m not meaning to come across as a d*ck by questioning anything you said initially. Hope we’re both taking this as an actual conversation until Greg maybe clears it up.By doing that, having a small % of certain categories unaffected would mean that you’ve got different rules for different groups of fans within a membership scheme
Surely that would be more controversial?
Sorry mate, I’m not meaning to come across as a d*ck by questioning anything you said initially. Hope we’re both taking this as an actual conversation until Greg maybe clears it up.
I don’t really understand your last point but I’ll put that down to my intelligence rather than anything else haha!
What would happen at the end of next season then? Eventually, those legacy points are going to drop off and we’ll be in the same situation we’ll be in this year coming. That extra year you’re dying to have on your points this year will just drop off next year… it’ll just all balance out eventually.
Last seasons points criteria wasGoing by last seasons points criteria, I am now in Gold.
A season needs to drop off, people who have paid money this season should be rewarded just like thoseDon’t think they should be dropping a year off next season to be honest. Nobody has been able to use it yet.
it should not be 6 years, people ploughed money into the the club knowing we were unlikely to get to a game, it should be 5 with the 1 season dropping offIf we had a normal season, people’s points would’ve been based on the 5 seasons from 15/16 onwards.
As such, fans would’ve been put into Gold/Silver/Bronze based on their “loyalty” over the 5 year period. At that point, it would’ve meant fans would’ve been buying tickets, going on tours, buying woman’s games/programmes etc and everyone would’ve had the same chance to build points up.
My point is, we’ve not had the chance to differentiate ourselves by buying tickets etc. Yeah we could’ve bought programmes/Woman’s game/watch along, but in truth that amounts to about 20 points (if that).
If the club wants to revert to a 3 year rolling period, have next year as an anomaly of 6 years and then have 3 years drop off for the start of the 22/23 season. That’s the point I’m trying to make
A season needs to drop off, people who have paid money this season should be rewarded just like those
it should not be 6 years, people ploughed money into the the club knowing we were unlikely to get to a game, it should be 5 with the 1 season dropping off
it should not be 3 seasons
The big issue is we have all paid into this and nobody knows exactly how it will work.
People may be on 1800 but their points will reduce if it reverts to a 3 year rolling points system and not the current 5Last seasons points criteria was
Gold: 1401-1556 Points
There are now people on 1800+ points.
Haven't you noticed yet, they make it up as they go alongThe big issue is we have all paid into this and nobody knows exactly how it will work.
The point is though that the points shouldn’t be dropping off after the first test of the scheme where people haven’t been able to show their loyalty by buying tickets etcLike it or lump it the points must drop off or it is effectively what many suggested a closed shop. You can't expect people further down the table aren't allowed to catch up.
Everyone has shown the same loyalty this year and the rules around the rolling total were set yes we haven’t been able to use it but to keep the integrity of the membership scheme it would be unfair to put a young fan for example another year behind from catching up.
Like it or lump it the points must drop off or it is effectively what many suggested a closed shop. You can't expect people further down the table aren't allowed to catch up.
Everyone has shown the same loyalty this year and the rules around the rolling total were set yes we haven’t been able to use it but to keep the integrity of the membership scheme it would be unfair to put a young fan for example another year behind from catching up.
Like it or lump it the points must drop off or it is effectively what many suggested a closed shop. You can't expect people further down the table aren't allowed to catch up.
Everyone has shown the same loyalty this year and the rules around the rolling total were set yes we haven’t been able to use it but to keep the integrity of the membership scheme it would be unfair to put a young fan for example another year behind from catching up.
Not if the 2015/16 points are dropped in June.Last seasons points criteria was
Gold: 1401-1556 Points
There are now people on 1800+ points.
Would you not lose points in June too ?Not if the 2015/16 points are dropped in June.
I think everyone who paid for a season ticket and membership for this current season and whatever else they may have purchased have shown enough loyalty if it doesn't come down the people at the top are the only winnersThe point is thought that the points shouldn’t be dropping off after the first test of the scheme where people haven’t been able to show their loyalty by buying tickets etc
No, I wasn't a ST holder in 2015/16. My points began in 16/17Would you not lose points in June too ?
I think everyone who paid for a season ticket and membership for this current season and whatever else they may have purchased have shown enough loyalty if it doesn't come down the people at the top are the only winners
Any time this has been discussed the SLO and others are always banging the drum that it is not just a ticket scheme it is a lot more and most of that has still been available. As such if they are still going down that line then a season has to drop off although it would make sense to keep it at 5 for another season rather than go down to 3 this season.The point is though that the points shouldn’t be dropping off after the first test of the scheme where people haven’t been able to show their loyalty by buying tickets etc
Any time this has been discussed the SLO and others are always banging the drum that it is not just a ticket scheme it is a lot more and most of that has still been available. As such if they are still going down that line then a season has to drop off although it would make sense to keep it at 5 for another season rather than go down to 3 this season.
Given past history they will do what they want though and keep making it up as they go along. Loyalty won't come into it, it will be whatever makes the most money.
That would be a laugh if they tried that. I've no interest in away games, finals or semis so not overly bothered. I only joined this year again for euro awaysLoads of people staying silent on it just now as it’s not clear how it’s going to work
There’ll be an uproar when the penny drops if it’s changed to 3 years for the start of next season
Keeping it at 5 for another season with 1 year dropping off could be a fairer way to do it if you wanted to meet in the middle. But just deciding to make it 6 years isn't the way to go imoAny time this has been discussed the SLO and others are always banging the drum that it is not just a ticket scheme it is a lot more and most of that has still been available. As such if they are still going down that line then a season has to drop off although it would make sense to keep it at 5 for another season rather than go down to 3 this season.
Given past history they will do what they want though and keep making it up as they go along. Loyalty won't come into it, it will be whatever makes the most money.
Who from the people who feel entitled?Loads of people staying silent on it just now as it’s not clear how it’s going to work
There’ll be an uproar when the penny drops if it’s changed to 3 years for the start of next season
Who from the people who feel entitled?
I don’t think it should ever drop to 3 years tbhPoints should drop off, correct, but not for next season. Since MyGers was created, nobody has been able to use it.
For the start of season 2022/2023 the year that was meant to fall off for this coming season should then go. Madness to suggest otherwise.
I'd have no problem with that whatsoever I see it from both sides but you have to allow people the chance to catch up especially the kids who may have invested whatever money they can on things like RTV to give themselves the best possible chance of climbing the tiersNot entitled no but it’s hardly fair for reasons I’ve mentioned throughout the thread
I agree with your point above though, middle ground could be 15/16 dropping off, 20/21 added in, having it as 5 years for one more season
At least if they told us,then we would know exactly we are arguing aboutCurrently 5 seasons, was meant to go to 3 seasons. What’s the betting they settle on 4 seasons and then dropping down to 3 seasons a year later than planned?