So what's in it for Ashley? Why is he determined to starve Rangers of income?
He's connected with the darkside.
So what's in it for Ashley? Why is he determined to starve Rangers of income?
Who do certain people on our board keep getting us into a shitshow over retail deals ,questions need to be asked
Who do certain people on our board keep getting us into a shitshow over retail deals ,questions need to be asked
He's connected with the darkside.
When did it stop being messy?I’m sure on H&H they said Elite was now working with Sports Direct. Probably something to do with that if it’s the case. Either way it’s going to get messy again!
I suppose if Elite do go into admin all contracts are void ?
So what's in it for Ashley? Why is he determined to starve Rangers of income?
They’ll have cash hid somewhere.
Instructed to follow,the club’s mantra.Here is hoping the Club's new legal team fight dirty
Here is hoping the Club's new legal team fight dirty
Nothing new in this that changes anything from the previous thread.
Elite were withholding for fear of breaking the injunction, as SDI were claiming that Rangers receiving money from Elite wasn’t allowed under the injuction. Court ruled that Elite paying paying Rangers wasn’t against the injunction, and payment could be made.
Now, obviously Elite withholding payment is a breach of the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract. (Even if it was done for the right reasons, eg. to stop Rangers getting in bother for breach of the injuction) and as I said before, a bit of guesswork on my part, but I’d assume two companies simply can’t pay each other £2.8m. A bit of due process is required, there fore, as it’s technically a breach of contract, Rangers are taking Elite to court. Exactly as our statement says, for breaching the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract
I did presume this would happen at the start and said as far as my knowledge goes, Elite have the money and will pay willingly. That is still my understanding.
Until Elite refuse to pay or try to fight this in court, then I’ll concede my defence of them.
However, I’m sorry ID10, no disrespect as a I know your info is normally spot on, but if your previous posts, suggesting we should boycott and Elite are bad guys, aswell as today’s “I told you so” posts, were all in-fact based solely on your knowledge that Rangers planned to sue Elite for this money. Then you are way off with this one. Unless you have proof Elite intend not to pay, then I still maintain your scaremongering and vague rumour starting was unjust. As even, I, someone who is putting up a defence of Elite and opposing your view, fore saw that Rangers would probably need to take Elite to court.
I think you need to be aware that @ID10 did warn us about this.Yeah mate so when we signed Kenny Miller for the second time that meant that us and Celtic are basically the same team.
It isn't a coincidence, no. It is entirely likely that two people who understand sports goods retailing now happen to work for another company.
Nothing new in this that changes anything from the previous thread.
Elite were withholding for fear of breaking the injunction, as SDI were claiming that Rangers receiving money from Elite wasn’t allowed under the injuction. Court ruled that Elite paying paying Rangers wasn’t against the injunction, and payment could be made.
Now, obviously Elite withholding payment is a breach of the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract. (Even if it was done for the right reasons, eg. to stop Rangers getting in bother for breach of the injuction) and as I said before, a bit of guesswork on my part, but I’d assume two companies simply can’t pay each other £2.8m. A bit of due process is required, there fore, as it’s technically a breach of contract, Rangers are taking Elite to court. Exactly as our statement says, for breaching the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract
I did presume this would happen at the start and said as far as my knowledge goes, Elite have the money and will pay willingly. That is still my understanding.
Until Elite refuse to pay or try to fight this in court, then I’ll concede my defence of them.
However, I’m sorry ID10, no disrespect as a I know your info is normally spot on, but if your previous posts, suggesting we should boycott and Elite are bad guys, aswell as today’s “I told you so” posts, were all in-fact based solely on your knowledge that Rangers planned to sue Elite for this money. Then you are way off with this one. Unless you have proof Elite intend not to pay, then I still maintain your scaremongering and vague rumour starting was unjust. As even, I, someone who is putting up a defence of Elite and opposing your view, fore saw that Rangers would probably need to take Elite to court.
I think you need to be aware that @ID10 did warn us about this.
He has posted in this thread and if he tells me that Elite are screwing Rangers over because Fatso has done a deal with them, then I will believe that.
I have always suspected that Fatso wants to put Rangers out of business and this is personal against the club for having the temerity to stop him taking us over and raping us even more.
No kit buying for me.
Not reallyHell of a coincidence though eh
You don’t take someone who is cooperating to court. They are at it, no two ways about it.I'm going to jump in quickly here:
We don't know why Elite are withholding.
Someone who knows the details needs to let us know. Arguably, they may be withholding as they do not want to be sued by SDI, not to screw over Rangers (which is what some will immediately jump to).
Nobody knows though.
Edit:
Also, the only 'evidence' that Elite and SDI are linked is that two former SDI employees now work for Elite.
Elite were not in fear of breaking the injunction, they were hiding behind the injunction.Nothing new in this that changes anything from the previous thread.
Elite were withholding for fear of breaking the injunction, as SDI were claiming that Rangers receiving money from Elite wasn’t allowed under the injuction. Court ruled that Elite paying paying Rangers wasn’t against the injunction, and payment could be made.
Now, obviously Elite withholding payment is a breach of the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract. (Even if it was done for the right reasons, eg. to stop Rangers getting in bother for breach of the injuction) and as I said before, a bit of guesswork on my part, but I’d assume two companies simply can’t pay each other £2.8m. A bit of due process is required, there fore, as it’s technically a breach of contract, Rangers are taking Elite to court. Exactly as our statement says, for breaching the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract
I did presume this would happen at the start and said as far as my knowledge goes, Elite have the money and will pay willingly. That is still my understanding.
Until Elite refuse to pay or try to fight this in court, then I’ll concede my defence of them.
However, I’m sorry ID10, no disrespect as a I know your info is normally spot on, but if your previous posts, suggesting we should boycott and Elite are bad guys, aswell as today’s “I told you so” posts, were all in-fact based solely on your knowledge that Rangers planned to sue Elite for this money. Then you are way off with this one. Unless you have proof Elite intend not to pay, then I still maintain your scaremongering and vague rumour starting was unjust. As even, I, someone who is putting up a defence of Elite and opposing your view, fore saw that Rangers would probably need to take Elite to court.
It was clearly implied and it was implied deliberately without any doubt whatsoever.I don’t think that was said though? All we know is that 2 people who used to work for SDI now work for Elite. That’s my point. There’s no evidence of anything else.
It is not in the realms of conspiracy for someone to move employers.
If they were willing to pay then we wouldn’t be taking them to court. Especially after a judge ruling we can be paid.Nothing new in this that changes anything from the previous thread.
Elite were withholding for fear of breaking the injunction, as SDI were claiming that Rangers receiving money from Elite wasn’t allowed under the injuction. Court ruled that Elite paying paying Rangers wasn’t against the injunction, and payment could be made.
Now, obviously Elite withholding payment is a breach of the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract. (Even if it was done for the right reasons, eg. to stop Rangers getting in bother for breach of the injuction) and as I said before, a bit of guesswork on my part, but I’d assume two companies simply can’t pay each other £2.8m. A bit of due process is required, there fore, as it’s technically a breach of contract, Rangers are taking Elite to court. Exactly as our statement says, for breaching the Rangers/Elite/Hummel contract
I did presume this would happen at the start and said as far as my knowledge goes, Elite have the money and will pay willingly. That is still my understanding.
Until Elite refuse to pay or try to fight this in court, then I’ll concede my defence of them.
However, I’m sorry ID10, no disrespect as a I know your info is normally spot on, but if your previous posts, suggesting we should boycott and Elite are bad guys, aswell as today’s “I told you so” posts, were all in-fact based solely on your knowledge that Rangers planned to sue Elite for this money. Then you are way off with this one. Unless you have proof Elite intend not to pay, then I still maintain your scaremongering and vague rumour starting was unjust. As even, I, someone who is putting up a defence of Elite and opposing your view, fore saw that Rangers would probably need to take Elite to court.
That doesn’t make any sense though.
once the court say payment can be made, the finance teams get together and agree when it is paid, Rangers going to court is the last resort, and it isn’t one that you take lightly.
Elite will have had multiple correspondence from rangers Finance team, I would imagine Directors have then contacted elite and they have refused to make payment.
You don’t go to court to get payment when the other party is willing to pay.
if elite are going to pay willingly, it doesn’t get near rangers taking this step.
i hope Rangers have ring-fenced 4m so as we get our money.hopefully this was done when we raised court action.if it wasnt questions should be asked as its happened to us in the past.As i said in another thread. I expect Elite to go into admin and we get pennies in the pound and SDI will swoop in and take over
This in buckets.Even allowing for any rights and wrongs, they are far too small and incapable of handling our requirements. Another short sighted contract
Really is mate. We don't know if we should continue buying or what.
It's genuinely likely that Elite will be withholding to protect themselves from SDI (with plans to pay when the whole thing is sorted), but that the club need the money now.
Equally, Elite withholding money and Rangers taking them to court, could be a strategy to allow Elite to look more neutral in the SDI litigation.
I think we should hold fire until we see how 'well' Elite defend this in court.
All hypothetical!
If they were willing to pay then we wouldn’t be taking them to court. Especially after a judge ruling we can be paid.
Take your head out the sand.
I’ve no need to say anything else on this to be honest
you are free to make up your own mind
I don’t presume to know how business work mate, I’ve said from the start my opinion is based purely on my own understanding and knowledge.
But my logic is that the legal teams can’t simply get together and agree to pay as Elite have technically breached the contract. Rangers need to claim the courts for this breach of contract. I suppose settling out of court is always an option but assume maybe not in this case just to keep it regulated and above board? Again, I don’t know, but as I said, until Elite officially say “we aren’t paying” then I will hold off on lumping them as the bad guys.
Here is hoping the Club's new legal team fight dirty
That doesn’t make any sense though.
once the court say payment can be made, the finance teams get together and agree when it is paid, Rangers going to court is the last resort, and it isn’t one that you take lightly.
Elite will have had multiple correspondence from rangers Finance team, I would imagine Directors have then contacted elite and they have refused to make payment.
You don’t go to court to get payment when the other party is willing to pay.
if elite are going to pay willingly, it doesn’t get near rangers taking this step.
As i said in another thread. I expect Elite to go into admin and we get pennies in the pound and SDI will swoop in and take over
yeah all good points mate.
But as others have posted, perhaps going to court gives Elite protection from SDI as they are being forced to pay.
No one knows the ins and outs, I’m obv trying to keep a level head and put what I know and what I’ve been told, together with what the club are saying, and come up with a logical conclusion.
I don’t think that was said though? All we know is that 2 people who used to work for SDI now work for Elite. That’s my point. There’s no evidence of anything else.
It is not in the realms of conspiracy for someone to move employers.
Looks like our right mate.In bed with a fatty
Did Ashley not put two directors on the Rangers board, as well as 5 cripples into the Rangers team from Newcastle Utd?
I’m talking about Elite so not sure where you’re coming from. Ashley did that because he owned shares and could do that.