Calico Jack
Well-Known Member
100 per cent.
We should have been organised back in '12. We've let them get too fast a grip, we're suppressed now as a club, with little or no fight back from the fans.
100 per cent.
If today’s punishment is based on a very brief instance against St Joseph’s then a closure based on the past 2 games isn’t out of the question.Strike two - progres?
Strike three - the Danes?
They better not
How can we realistically challenge FARE when we’ve just been found guilty (rightly so) of sectarian singing?
We have no leverage here while we continue to sing these songs.
3rd strike??? How when the don’t follow their own rules regarding Celtic , look at the list , 3 pitch invasions , sectarian chanting and paramilitary banners etc ... https://www.scotsman.com/sport/foot...heet-237k-paid-in-fines-in-10-years-1-4559301
Its not what we think that matters. Its what UEFA think and if folks continue with the songs the choices are a/ Knuckle dragging morons who couldn't care less about Rangers or b/ retards who couldn't care less about Rangers. What is it, a or b.So fellow bears who sing songs you consider bad and/or really bad are knuckle dragging morons?
We need to get our own house in order and forget about anything the beasts from the east get up to /get away with.Some are incapable of discussing issues in the Rangers support without justifying them against the misbehaviour of Celtic fans.
It’s utterly tragic to watch. Completely unable to accept responsibility.
That’s going to take years. We need to sort this out now and talk about FARE later. Power can only be dealt with when we’re operating from a position of strength.We stop the singing, ban folk who don’t stick with the program and then confront the issue of FARE’s disproportionate reporting and conflict of interest. That would be tact.
And yet so many of our fans are seemingly unable to grasp this.
Rangers have more than enough evidence to prove the deliberate and long running campaign against our club by FARE to have us sanctioned. If FARE are anti racist, they can show where they've reported to UEFA the endless anti British racism in songs and chants by that mob across the city.
What does it matter?
FARE are run by mentally challengeds and we don't seem to be able to take up a battle with the passion, the Filth do.
Until we do, we'll continue to be in this position.
This is a targeted attack on our club and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to fucking waken up.
Never mind "forget about ceptic" - they should be out the tournament already for sectarian singing and assaulting players with missiles.
Sectarian singing should be banned from football not just Ibrox.
I wish someone at the club would fucking grow a pair and fight back.
Yes we need to change, yes we need stop the singing, but for %^*& sake someone demand equality and a level playing field.
Great analogy, and sadly very true.That’s like Harold Shipman standing up in court and saying ‘Peter Sutcliffe was worse than me’
“Up to our knees in 19th Century Terrorist blood”
Oh the fucking horror! Its almost as offensive as abusing little boys for decades and covering it up.
I know, whatabboutery right?
Well what about that? The mind fucking boggles.
Im offended that a UEFA member is currently going through the courts being nailed for this, and yet not a peep.
The narrative is set. We wise up.
They hate the song because it generates one of the best spectacles in football at full pelt.
Shower of corrupt scum bastards
That’s going to take years. We need to sort this out now and talk about FARE later. Power can only be dealt with when we’re operating from a position of strength.
Not at all.I empathise with what you’re saying but you’re missing the mark here
Because everything we do when we’ve been found guilty of sectarian chanting will be undermined by the very fact we’re guilty of it.Why not do both? Waiting years doesn’t do the process any favours.
The timing of this stinks, we’re now looking likely to get further sanctions on the majority of supporters who have done nothing wrong.
Quite frankly, that’s every bit as unacceptable as any singing.
There’s no battle with uefa, battle uefa and your out of european competitions!
I think if the club show that they’re actively taking action against those who do these things in our support at games, the majority can’t be punished?
I didn't mention UEFA.
I mentioned FARE.
Filth sponsored enemies of our club, FARE, Call it out.
These are filth weapons.
Why not do both? Waiting years doesn’t do the process any favours.
The timing of this stinks, we’re now looking likely to get further sanctions on the majority of supporters who have done nothing wrong.
Quite frankly, that’s every bit as unacceptable as any singing.
Because everything we do when we’ve been found guilty of sectarian chanting will be undermined by the very fact we’re guilty of it.
This isn’t complicated.
I think if the club show that they’re actively taking action against those who do these things in our support whilst at games, the majority can’t be punished?
Real fans??What's the betting those idiots come in to the ground on Thursday tanked up and try to strike a note of defiance?
I can see it getting ugly as the real fans try to shut these morons up.
Imagine a murder suspect being found guilty and then making a complaint about police harassment over the fact he was being investigated for murder...Even if the police just got lucky and were genuinely just going after him because they hated him, the complaint would be laughed at because, well, he did what he was being accused of.
This is absolutely spot on.We need to get our own house in order and forget about anything the beasts from the east get up to /get away with.
You see posts saying they care more about us than their own team, but sometimes the same can be said about here.
It’s time the support acknowledged that the song book of yesteryear is now exactly that.
That’s like Harold Shipman standing up in court and saying ‘Peter Sutcliffe was worse than me’
It really isn't, mate. We have been deliberately targeted for years by FARE, a politicised left wing group. If you can't grasp that simple reality, then changing our songbook won't make any difference.
You could add why the Celtic CEO hass a position of influence within UEFAWe stop the singing, ban folk who don’t stick with the program and then confront the issue of FARE’s disproportionate reporting and conflict of interest. That would be my tact.
It’s not unreasonable to ask why a Celtic supporter has any say on what happens to us.
Yes, real fans. I have absolutely no hesitation in saying that someone who wilfully damages the reputation and financial well-being of the club in order to sing a song about that mob, in any way, shape or means, is 100% not a Rangers supporter.Real fans??
As they should be though, need to weed it out now as there’s a certain element that don’t give a fuck stillWe are going to start seeing people signing these songs pulled from their seats by stewards in the future.
So your telling me you have never sang one of the songs that this fare mob seem to find so offensive?Yes, real fans. I have absolutely no hesitation in saying that someone who wilfully damages the reputation and financial well-being of the club in order to sing a song about that mob, in any way, shape or means, is 100% not a Rangers supporter.
You didn’t genuinely just compare this to a murder, did you?
Not to mention, your analogy is wrong. It’s like 10 people committing murder, the police knowing who all 10 are, and only going after 1.
It’s very straightforward.It’s only simple if you’re being wilfully ignorant of the bigger picture. You seem to be getting a hard on for UEFA’s duplicity, so i’ll leave you to it.
So your telling me you have never sang one of the songs that this fare mob seem to find so offensive?
Let’s just lower the union flag while we are at it.I’ve just tweeted this. We aren’t big enough to take on UEFA but we are big enough to make headline news in Britain. This is the wake up call. Time to get rid of these songs before it’s too late
Yeah mate, that's what I did, I literally compared bigotry and murder...
While in the real world people understand that you can use analogies and metaphors to explain things without meaning that they are literally comparable.
Andno, the analogy would be one person committing a murder, 10 potential suspects but only one looked at.
I find it hard to believe that you have never participated in singing of these songs at a gameOf course I have. I still do. In the appropriate place and at the appropriate time. The football is neither of those things.
let's go after this sham organisation with everything we have.
Always us!!!3rd strike??? How when the don’t follow their own rules regarding Celtic , look at the list , 3 pitch invasions , sectarian chanting and paramilitary banners etc ... https://www.scotsman.com/sport/foot...heet-237k-paid-in-fines-in-10-years-1-4559301
What are you saying here?Who am I defending? Read what I said.
This isn't a simple "stoap at singin" and the problem goes away.
If folk believe that then we really are fucked cause see when sectarian singing stops they will just get us for something else.
There is a deeper lying issue here that we are being singled out and targeted.
i believe its more of an example of the double standards that are continually aimed at our club - for instance I witnessed Cluj players and members of their staff showered with bottles etc when they celebrated their winning goal (there may be an on going investigation but doubt it)This is absolutely spot on.
I've long since lost count how many times I've read on here that they hate us more than they love themselves, they're obsessed with us etc etc. A lot of which is true, but the threads today since this news broke have been absolutely saturated with 'what about them?'. Focus on us ffs.
It’s very straightforward.
UEFA will never in a thousand years side with a club recently found guilty of racist/sectarian chanting over their closest partners for the prevention of racism. It would undermine all of the anti-racism work UEFA have done and would be extremely bad PR for them. You are a fool if you cannot see this.