lovenkrands72
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Rumour being a very key wordWhen you consider the rumour that Lundstram is on circa £30k a week and received a signing-on fee of north of £1m the decision not to sign McCann is even more puzzling.
Rumour being a very key wordWhen you consider the rumour that Lundstram is on circa £30k a week and received a signing-on fee of north of £1m the decision not to sign McCann is even more puzzling.
But only Preston came in for him. None of those EL teams didI watched him against two europa league teams this season and he was the best player on the park in 3 of the 4 games. He was also excellent against us at Ibrox in the cup last season.
Who's the keeper gone to?Get the feeling it will be a good time to play St Johnstone. Main keeper, best defender and best midfielder all gone today
About 1/8th of the length of the Ibrox pitch when you lay the coins side by side. Or something like that.you realise 1m is actually quite a lot of money?
The prices we are holding out for are therfore unrealistic. For some players, their 'values' are decreasing. See Borna imo.
No-one seems to want to sell any of our big players and back slaps all round at the end of every window. Until we take the plunge and make profit, financially we are not in a strong position.
Our "strategy" seems somewhat weak and could cost us.
Wouldn't have been a million to us though
Yeah, I wouldn’t argue with that.Sorry I never meant you personally more about the board itself and our budgeting. They’ve said in the past they had to front load investment to get us at a competitive stage but where do we progress from there?
The European runs the last few years have helped the board massively in getting income into the club but we’re still running at a loss.
The way I see it is unless we achieve Champions League or sell of a star player for under our current value then no real investment into future squads will happen. The problem is if we begin to accept no new players and things become stale on the pitch. I think we can both agree we’ve already seen evidence of fans frustrations at players this season who they adored last.
On holiday?
It is a difficult balancing act and I am not saying it is easy. But as time drags by window after window, certain player values can actually depreciate.You need offers to sell, you also need players wanting to leave, we've had no acceptable offers and none of our sellable assets are actively wanting to leave, like they had with Edouard, Christie and Ajer.
So we either keep our good players or howk them about clubs and risk pissing off a very tight knit squad.
Agree mate, no idea why some rate him so highly.If McCann is off to Preston - Preston FFS - for just £1m then you have to assume the football world doesn’t rate him as highly as his FF fan club.
When does the "model" kick in??
There has to come a point that we have to cash in on one of our valuable assets. We've been talking about this "model" for a good few years now. Still not happening.
Holding on to them at the end of every window is all fair and well, but it means we are not able to go out and spend.
We need to be more liquid with our transfer budget and also help with our finances /costs.
We have to accept that we need to sell player and actually take the big profit we are always on about - before it's too late for some.
We have more than we need. This season is going to be good.So looks like we're done for the window....no surprise that defeat to Malmö shagged any plans we had. Hopefully squad is enough to retain title
Bring them homeShankland, Ferguson, Goodwillie...another for the list
Fenerbache apparentlyWho's the keeper gone to?
Whilst I agree and I wanted some genuine quality brought in we have 8 options for three places so we won't get caught short this season.
It's been a missed opportunity to seriously strengthen though that much is clear.
Water aff a dugs backNothing worse than going to bed with the feeling of being lied too. Going to be a tough night.
Wouldn't have been a million to us though
To you and I and most FF posters it is in football now it’s ‘buttons’. Whether the lad was good enough is academic now.you realise 1m is actually quite a lot of money?
I think hes ok, but if he was the superstar some folk are making out he wouldn't be signing for Preston
If McCann is off to Preston - Preston FFS - for just £1m then you have to assume the football world doesn’t rate him as highly as his FF fan club.
‘See Borna’ what?The prices we are holding out for are therfore unrealistic. For some players, their 'values' are decreasing. See Borna imo.
No-one seems to want to sell any of our big players and back slaps all round at the end of every window. Until we take the plunge and make profit, financially we are not in a strong position.
Our "strategy" seems somewhat weak and could cost us.
The sort of clubs that are going to go for our players are the sort of clubs that have taken heavy financial hit with Covid imo. No Covid we h make that 15/20 million sale this summer or last winter imo.I wasn’t suggesting we budget for the CL mate, was merely suggesting that’s how we rid the deficit - nor am I saying the fans haven’t put their all into the club
Our last two European campaigns have been our best since 2010/2011, where we got to the last 16 as well - I’m not going to pretend to be a financial wizard and go through the accounts.
We have had some bids for our players, Morelos, Patterson and Kent are the ones that spring to mind but we haven’t had our valuation met for any of them.
Thankfully it’s a problem I don’t have to deal with
Celtic have had a catastrophic window. The lack quality and options they have in key positions is nothing short of staggering. They are relying on a group of young, international signings with no experience of British football to grind out wins at tough grounds like Tannadice, Tynecastle etc. They need a miracle.
I feel absolutely fine with our window in that context.
exactlyCan we conclude that the Borna scare stories from the weekend were just that, or are there still windows open in Europe we need to worry about?
We probably never had the money to do it, unfortunately. Rightly or wrongly, I think inside the club next summer is penned in as the summer of the rebuild. Win the league and get CL money and we rebuild next summerIt’s the continuity I’m concerned about in the middle.
arfield and Davis getting on
Jack, will he get fully fit
Kamara will move on
that’s all fine. In isolation. But it may all happen within 12 months. I’d love us to have a 12 month transition for new players coming in before old moving in.
maybe (probably) pie in the sky
Talking about Turkey Falcao is a free agent apparentlyFenerbache apparently
He's gone from St Johnstone earning pennies to a midtable Championship club where he will have a huge wage increase. It's a very good move for McCann.
Sorry, I'm just not having it that Lundstram is worth £XX million. He let his contract run down, Sheffield Utd tried to punt him and there were was no interest. Sheffield Utd then offered him a contract which he rejected in the hope of getting a big deal as a free agent.
If he was worth decent money, one of the supposed many EPL teams that were interested in him would have signed him on a pre-contract nevermind paid relative pocket money on him. West Ham had a turnover of something like £140M last year, Everton was £185M. There is no way that if he was worth anything like the figures banded on here that none of these teams would have taken a punt on him. Fact of the matter is though that nobody valued him, hence why he never received an offer higher than what we gave him.
Make of that what you will.
Rangers looking to offload itten if we manage to get him gone today nisbet is our target
For what we’d be getting its not really. We spunked £4M on Ittenyou realise 1m is actually quite a lot of money?
Take it Barker is staying then?
Goalkeeper ?Get the feeling it will be a good time to play St Johnstone. Main keeper, best defender and best midfielder all gone today
Wheres Zander Clark went?Get the feeling it will be a good time to play St Johnstone. Main keeper, best defender and best midfielder all gone today
And the gutter press would have us ripping off poor we SaintsWouldn't have been a million to us though
Cheers mate didn't know anything about thatFenerbache apparently
Couple of articles mentioning itWhere you seeing this?
Think quality is pushing it. They have lost their top scorer and Kyogo has basically just replaced Elynoussi.They now have a quality strike force, a basic midfield and a bomb scare of a defence. I think we have a better more balanced side. Memories of the 90’s for me.
For what we’d be getting its not really. We spunked £4M on Itten
I never suggested it wasn’t a good move for him. However, the way he’s been talked about on here you’d have thought it would have been the EPL and La Liga clubs fighting over him in a multi-million pound deal. He’s a decent player. That’s about it.He's gone from St Johnstone earning pennies to a midtable Championship club where he will have a huge wage increase. It's a very good move for McCann.
The fact that we bring in virtually nothing in transfer fee revenue suggests our strategy needs to be significantly reviewed in that space. It's no way to run a business, considering the financial gaps we continue to have.What price are we holding out for? Or are you just making things up?