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Then your point has nothing to do with the Morelos situation and is for another threadI'm making that point and there are others. Won't take much scrolling back
Then your point has nothing to do with the Morelos situation and is for another threadI'm making that point and there are others. Won't take much scrolling back
My point doesn't fit the narrative you want to spin you meanThen your point has nothing to do with the Morelos situation and is for another thread
Another one trying to deflect. The tackle on Lowry was a disgrace, it is also nothing to do with MorelosIf you call that a 'lashing' you have a problem with Morelos and/or hyperbole.
The red would never be overturned but as violent conduct goes it was borderline. One of those 'aye but he lifted his hand do can't complain' soft reds. Take a look at what happened to Lowry last night and compare and contrast.
No.My point doesn't fit the narrative you want to spin you mean
You obviously din't know how football works mate. At that point Gio has decided to give him and his attitude the benefit of the doubt, another chance if you like. He then produces what he did on Saturday and enough was enough.
It's not rocket science
people do realise who is saying that's not a red card?
I'm having beans for ma dinner tonightAnother one trying to deflect. The tackle on Lowry was a disgrace, it is also nothing to do with Morelos
I agree but what I did notice was that it took Walker about 6 viewings before he realised people were looking at Morelos’ arm, he was watching his leg.people do realise who is saying that's not a red card?
that's Andy Wanker, a massive hater of Morelos and everything Rangers. I thought we would have at least appealed the red considering it's not one but I would expect it says that Gio doesn't want the chance to pick Morelos at this point, so that's probably why
bit strange considering as has been said many times here, he's the only player in Scottish football getting sent off for that and we aren't exactly top heavy on striking options (not supposed to be a pun)
Im not blind, I could clearly see watching the game that's a yellow card offence and that Hibs players were doing much worse and didnt even get a talking too.You seem to be absolutely blind when it comes to Morelos.
Also find it very strange that after a very dubious red card that the management have now just decided that his attitude and professionalism isn't good enough and to leave him out.He had decided to give him the benefit of the doubt.... ahh OK.
You know when the "chance" he had given him before that game was? It was when he was flogging him into the ground when the player who apparently now has a sh*t attitude was playing needless minutes against St Johnstone, Dundee and Red Star when he clearly looked f*ck and just about every fan held their breathe every time he went down
That was the games he had been playing before he decided to "give him the benefit of the doubt" and then openly praise him upon his return for his hard work
It's not adding up.....
That's acceptable in Lidl mate.In fairness to Alfie I turn up to my work overweight with a bad attitude.
It adds up very easily unless you close your eyes to it.He had decided to give him the benefit of the doubt.... ahh OK.
You know when the "chance" he had given him before that game was? It was when he was flogging him into the ground when the player who apparently now has a sh*t attitude was playing needless minutes against St Johnstone, Dundee and Red Star when he clearly looked f*cked and just about every fan held their breathe every time he went down and his leg was strapped to absolute f*ck
That was the games he had been playing before he decided to "give him the benefit of the doubt" and then openly praise him upon his return for his hard work
It's not adding up.....the player had demonstrated the attitude he can have to the manager
Whats's Collum and Lowry having?I'm having beans for ma dinner tonight
Most likely each otherWhats's Collum and Lowry having?
It adds up very easily unless you close your eyes to it.
That's acceptable in Lidl mate.
Not on a footballers salary
In the words of Kris Boyd. . . 'I'm surprised this action wasn't taken over a week ago by what i've been hearing'
It's clear as day his attitude has been rotten lately.
Plays well for manager - helps manager to massive wins during the early stages of a career with a new club
Manager flogs said player, player still works hard
Manager praises player for working hard on their fitness
Players gets a red card
f*ck it let's burn the whole thing down.
Nah, that's not adding up even with eyes open or considering the bigger picture and the damage to any possible fee for the player - fumbled situation
Morelos could just say he has a sore back, apparently that is what you do when you want out a club TBF
Deluded in the extreme.Plays well for manager - helps manager to massive wins during the early stages of a career with a new club
Manager flogs said player, player still works hard
Manager praises player for working hard on their fitness
Players gets a red card
f*ck it let's burn the whole thing down.
Nah, that's not adding up even with eyes open or considering the bigger picture and the damage to any possible fee for the player - fumbled situation
Morelos could just say he has a sore back, apparently that is what you do when you want out a club TBF
It's not adding up because we're not privy to all that has happened. There's obviously an accumulation of issues that finally came to a head at the weekend.
Morelos couldn't have been feeling that bad last season given he happily went off to Colombia, despite the huge games that were coming up for this club.
I doubt there's that much damage to a possible fee. For whatever reason, there's been a reluctance from any club to come in with a bid.
You pissed off, mate?Ahh but it is a red card eh so f*ck it, who cares about context
I was as equally p*ssed off by
Our passive sh*t football played for the first half when we turned down shots and played it around at the back to the point it can make me want to stop watching a thing I love.
I would have been p*ssed off had Hibs actually been given a penalty when Tav clearly f*cking pulled someone down in the box, what then? Would Morelos get to call Tav stupid for that equal level of sh*t discipline?
The utterly p*sh pass Borna gave Goldson that in turn could have lead to a red for him p*ssed me off.
I was p*ssed off watching a clearly out of shape (Morelos isn't the only one) Ryan Jack kept on for the full 90 minutes as he lost runners and kept losing possession
I was p*ssed off that we surrendered half the football pitch for 20 minutes.
Morelos made a sh*t decision, he wasn't alone in that
These sh*t decisions also need to stop at some point
Deluded in the extreme.
If you think that is the whole situation here then that is quite scary.deluded means to believe a thing that isn't true, the events I mentioned actually did take place....
These are all things that have happened during the managers, very short, time in charge
Plays well for manager - helps manager to massive wins during the early stages of a career with a new club
Manager flogs said player, player still works hard
Manager praises player for working hard on their fitness
Morelos has shown the manager he can be coached and is receptive to his ideas, he hasn't been some continual c*nt from the second he walked in the door.
Spot on.Think the ship has sailed with Alfie. Time for both parties to move on, perhaps something that should have been done a while back.
If you think that is the whole situation here then that is quite scary.
For me it's as simple as, if we don't go through tonight Alfie has missed a vital game for us when he should be desperate to get at them. He has let us and his teammates down badly again.It is remarkable to see how entrenched people can become on here. Also watching a similar situation unfold over on the Gerrard thread.
If we don't go through tonight, this place is going to be like the Wild West and the reality is that we have no right to expect to eliminate PSV.
Nah... I haven't said that actually, nothing like TBH but they are events that make me think getting to this point is complete nonsense
He’s missed more preseasons than he’s started. When he’s returned from overseas he has done so clearly unfit. The manager today said he was unfit. Gerrard said Alfredo is the kind of player who gets fit through games. As did Kris Boyd however you wish to categorise him, I’m guessing he’s played again a higher level than you. Short of that should we compare sports science credentials or go on a run for charity?It really doesn't, at all, it reads like you have never actually built up fitness for any form of physical activity.
I have made no comment either way re disagreeing or agreeing on his efforts but the notion fitness comes from game time is just complete nonsense, fitness is built to play games. A player wouldn't simply become fit by only playing a couple of games of football a week.
RE starting poorly and picking up, that actually hasn't always been the case with Morelos.
In what way? You should check his goal stats full stop. Break it down for me.You should check his goal stats after Christmas. Think you would be surprised.
So you've left out the main point then.Nah... I haven't said that actually, nothing like TBH but they are events that make me think getting to this point is complete nonsense
He’s missed more preseasons than he’s started. When he’s returned from overseas he has done so clearly unfit. The manager today said he was unfit. Gerrard said Alfredo is the kind of player who gets fit through games. As did Kris Boyd however you wish to categorise him, I’m guessing he’s played again a higher level than you. Short of that should we compare sports science credentials or go on a run for charity?
Are you new to Follow Follow and have not read this and other threads and lacking self awareness?Nobody thinks Alfie is bigger than the club, but some can see he shouldnt have been sent off and have the opinion the club could have dealt with this matter much better than they have.
Nonsense.Are you new to Follow Follow and have not read this and other threads? There’s clearly some who are Alfie fans who have him on a pedestal and are blaming everyone and everything else.
My username is after him and I won't be blaming anyone else but him. I have more of a problem with the pile on our players and manager take from fans on here.Are you new to Follow Follow and have not read this and other threads? There’s clearly some who are Alfie fans who have him on a pedestal and are blaming everyone and everything else.
So you've left out the main point then.
You’re one of them, picking fault at everything and everyone that has had a saw rather than admitting he’s a wee so and so who deserves everything he gets!Nonsense.
Feels dirty to agree with Andy Walker." lashing his arm into the defenders face! seriously! that's just nonsense!
He barely touched the Hibs player!
Here is the be all and end all despite the irrelevance you keep posting.Nah, not really we have been posting on and off for about 30 minutes and went over a fair auld lot of sh*te but you claimed delusion despite reference to actual events, so I was referring to them you see.
Here is the be all and end all despite the irrelevance you keep posting.
His attitude has clearly been very poor behind the scenes. The management have given him all the chances they could and have then had to act after Saturday.
Boyd has told us he is surprised it hasn't happened sooner going by what he was being told.
Very easy to break down and understand, it's not my fault if you can't.
To reinforce the clubs view.Yeah, its not though just because you are posting it you see, weird you would think I would just go all in and take your word as final on it TBH
I mean you are using Boyd to help enforce your view, sort of says a lot as to why I wouldn't entirely take your view serious
You two are getting very heated.Yeah, its not though just because you are posting it you see, weird you would think I would just go all in and take your word as final on it TBH
I mean you are using Boyd to help enforce your view, sort of says a lot as to why I wouldn't entirely take your view serious
Is it not the case that a larger punishment is possible on appeal. It's not beyond possibility that Alfie gets a worse punishment.people do realise who is saying that's not a red card?
that's Andy Wanker, a massive hater of Morelos and everything Rangers. I thought we would have at least appealed the red considering it's not one but I would expect it says that Gio doesn't want the chance to pick Morelos at this point, so that's probably why
bit strange considering as has been said many times here, he's the only player in Scottish football getting sent off for that and we aren't exactly top heavy on striking options (not supposed to be a pun)
I have said if he deserved to be punished for attitude then do so behind closed doors as its an internal matter. I do not agree with the public flogging of him at all.You’re one of them, picking fault at everything and everyone that has had a saw rather than admitting he’s a wee so and so who deserves everything he gets!
We’ve seen certain posters having a go at Goldson, Tav, Souness, Gio, the press, referees and everyone in between.
If Walter was still around, god bless his soul he’d probably say the same and he’d be getting slated. Rather than admit Alfie for the umpteenth time has shown zero regard in many many ways for anyone but himself and is the reason for his own downfall.
To reinforce the clubs view.
You are miles off this.
"He certainly looks better on the eye. He looks like he’s getting sharper."Nah you are right, I am not a sports scientist
See football clubs though, they employ them, they give them a f*ck load of money
You would think they wouldn't bother and instead be like, aucht f*ck it lets, just play a game on a Saturday to get fit, but, yeah, they don't do that, I mean like this.
Gerrard said: “He [Morelos] has had one day off since Hamilton, so he’s come in and trained alone with the fitness coach, which was good to see. That was his own doing.
“That tells me he’s focused and he wants to be ready for the games coming up. He certainly looks better on the eye. He looks like he’s getting sharper.
"He'll train again this morning and he'll be available for selection tomorrow."
Why bother, a f*cking fitness coach Gerrard? mental.
I will happy go a run for a charity, you know what I would do BEFORE the run though? I would train for it, i wouldn't just go the run to get fit for it.
You mean slap his botty on arrival at training for 3 weeks?I have said if he deserved to be punished for attitude then do so behind closed doors as its an internal matter. I do not agree with the public flogging of him at all.
You have lost the plot lolExactly, Kris Boyd helps drive the brief of an entirely one sided argument