Din Grogu
Well-Known Member
That puts the final nail in the “separate entity” coffin.
That puts the final nail in the “separate entity” coffin.
We don't need a nail unfortunately, we need a grinder.That puts the final nail in the “separate entity” coffin.
A shovel and a hole to bury them inWe don't need a nail unfortunately, we need a grinder.
In this article they are named as “The Young parkhead stars.”
And the below article states..
“That has to be a priority for Celtic teams at all levels”
I really am struggling with the claim of separate entity.
The alliance between the SNP and the Catholic Church started over 10 years ago. Plenty of articles online that go into better detail than I can. The irony is that the modern SNP socialist/liberal policies contradict many Catholic teachings and beliefs. So although it is an uneasy alliance in that respect, the benefit to both is great and there is back scratching on both sides.
In terms of this thread and issue, the most obvious example would be the SNP excluding religous and sporting institutions in their historic CSA review. The reason they gave was that it would take too long, and as a result those who did not suffer CSA from a sporting/religious institution, would be delayed in seeing an outcome. It was a shocking thing to do, and a shocking excuse, and their silence on the matter is as horrible as the actions of the perpetrators. That is why the SNP are absolutely fucking despicable, and why every right thinking person should rally against them. They are literally putting votes/independence ahead of CSA victims.
I'm sure the Kilsyth Chapel had links to O'Brien BN.
Dornan must surely be in front of Mulgrew for poor parenting by now
Sorry mate who are the "others" on here that's laughed at him? Not looking for an argument, its just ive yet to see it myselfThis has been bothering me for some time now, Alan Brazil, I am not on here to ridicule or laugh at you like others have. I can't imagine for one moment what it must've been like for you to be subjected to the horrible C.S.A acts that were bestowed upon you as a child and/or the mental distress that it has also caused.
However I fail to see a person of your prominence and stature as a successful sports radio broadcaster having all your celebrity connections, why you did not do more to stop such horrible acts being done to other innocent children.
Gordon Woods has written a book (Being Put Through Hoops) to help bring these hideous events into the public domain, which of course I haven't had the pleasure of reading yet. Let's not forget what the poor Gray family have been exposed to over the years for trying to seek justice and closure for the tragic passing of their son/brother Andrew.
So please Alan help me and others understand why you have not fought for the rights of other children so that there would be less chance of them being exposed to the horrifying acts that you unfortunately had to endure. SO SAD.
Good, it is not about having an argument because what was written has serious content, and surely all that we want is to bring this calamity to an end and for all the perpetrators to be prosecuted. As you can appreciate (BlueLagoonCo) we don't always use the right wording. I do mean well though, honest.Sorry mate who are the "others" on here that's laughed at him? Not looking for an argument, its just ive yet to see it myself
Tbf mate, using the wrong wording is a farcry from laughing at him. Anyway i accept your explanation, enjoy your dayGood, it is not about having an argument because what was written has serious content, and surely all that we want is to bring this calamity to an end and for all the perpetrators to be prosecuted. As you can appreciate (BlueLagoonCo) we don't always use the right wording. I do mean well though, honest.
Anytime.@BN94 Can I PM you a question which I am embarrassed to ask here because it sounds daft?
This has been bothering me for some time now, Alan Brazil, I am not on here to ridicule or laugh at you like others have. I can't imagine for one moment what it must've been like for you to be subjected to the horrible C.S.A acts that were bestowed upon you as a child and/or the mental distress that it has also caused.
However I fail to see a person of your prominence and stature as a successful sports radio broadcaster having all your celebrity connections, why you did not do more to stop such horrible acts being done to other innocent children.
Gordon Woods has written a book (Being Put Through Hoops) to help bring these hideous events into the public domain, which of course I haven't had the pleasure of reading yet. Let's not forget what the poor Gray family have been exposed to over the years for trying to seek justice and closure for the tragic passing of their son/brother Andrew.
So please Alan help me and others understand why you have not fought for the rights of other children so that there would be less chance of them being exposed to the horrifying acts that you unfortunately had to endure. SO SAD.
Exactly, but isn't that the point that I am making their silence is not helping little innocent children that only have a dream to play football and remember this, the football game that we all love, Yes or No?Is that the Alan Brazil that still defends Big Jock to this day:
"No chance. Big Jock wouldn't stand for any nonsense would he?
"But I tell you who did know - The Kelly family who ran Celtic at that time.
"They stood by him. One of them was even with Torbett in court. That p****d me off big style"
Sickens me that he can't bring himself to say a word against Stein.
It cuts them to the bone that their greatest ever manager was a paedophile enabler.
He never gave a flying %^*& for the Boys, his only concern was protecting the 'good name' of Celtic.
Oh %^*& off humza...as bad as nippy the other week with her crocodile tears. Exploiting the death of someone for your own political gain, how brave and commendable you absolute cnut!I just can’t understand this individual. There can only be 2 reasons why he won’t speak to victims in his own country. Votes and his beloved club obviously come first.
He is incapable of doing his job. People who vote for the SNP definitely shouldn’t be on this forum. They make no secrets of where their loyalties lie.
I just can’t understand this individual. There can only be 2 reasons why he won’t speak to victims in his own country. Votes and his beloved club obviously come first.
He is incapable of doing his job. People who vote for the SNP definitely shouldn’t be on this forum. They make no secrets of where their loyalties lie.
This disgusts me. As previously said, he’s jumped on a bandwagon. He’s jumped on it and he can’t get off now.I just can’t understand this individual. There can only be 2 reasons why he won’t speak to victims in his own country. Votes and his beloved club obviously come first.
He is incapable of doing his job. People who vote for the SNP definitely shouldn’t be on this forum. They make no secrets of where their loyalties lie.
The point is that Celtic or their fans couldn't give a flying f*ck for the victims of Celtic Boys Club!!!
I hear what you are saying but we are and always will be bigger than them, just remember back to when you were a child you did not care the colour or religion that the wee kid you were playing with, did you? The big picture is, we want justice for all the wrong doings that has been going on for a very long time.The point is that Celtic or their fans couldn't give a flying f*ck for the victims of Celtic Boys Club!!!
Did Torbett aproach that club about starting a Boys' club? Did he have any previous association with the football club prior to contact with them? And if so, who did he know?
Just throwing some questions out there, apologies if they have already been discussed at some point on the thread.
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Torbett was involved with an East End boys guild team and was asked to form a young Celt's.
I have all this stuff on record somewhere I will dig it out .
But there is a mountain of it .
Only in Scotland no one could join the dots .
Then you have to factor in that people actually went out of their way to deliberately hinder any investigation .
Media ,politicians ,Legal council and people involved in running our game.
The cover up could not have happened if these people were not involved .
The point is that Celtic or their fans couldn't give a flying f*ck for the victims of Celtic Boys Club!!!
He is a pathetic prick with no compassionI just can’t understand this individual. There can only be 2 reasons why he won’t speak to victims in his own country. Votes and his beloved club obviously come first.
He is incapable of doing his job. People who vote for the SNP definitely shouldn’t be on this forum. They make no secrets of where their loyalties lie.
Have you considered protesting outside the Parliament door mate ?
Prepare yourself. This is a very hard listen. Just listen what he says just after 2m 30 seconds.
“I didn’t force them”
This is just one individual involved in the ring that was operating at Celtic.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but the “Neil Strachan, secretary of Celtc east bc”.Secretary at east coast Celtic feeder club was child abuser — The Times and The Sunday Times
Celtic FC created and funded a second feeder club which became embroiled in its own child abuse scandal, The Times can reveal. The Parkhead club has repeatedly distanced itself from systemic abuse at Celtic Boys Club in which four members, including the founder, Jim Torbett, were convicted of...apple.news
Celtic FC created and funded a second feeder club which became embroiled in its own child abuse scandal, The Times can reveal.
The Parkhead club has repeatedly distanced itself from systemic abuse at Celtic Boys Club in which four members, including the founder, Jim Torbett, were convicted of molesting dozens of children over four decades.
Now evidence has emerged that Celtic FC was behind the launch of a second youth feeder club in Edinburgh, called Celtic East Youth Club.
In 1997 Neil Strachan, the secretary of Celtic East, was jailed for sexually assaulting a young boy and gained further notoriety when he was exposed as the ringleader of Scotland’s worst organised abuse network.
Celtic FC has always denied any formal connection with the Edinburgh club, which no longer exists, when Strachan was convicted.
However, official documents show that it oversaw the launch and provided money as well as coaching staff.
The creation of the east coast feeder side was announced in the Celtic View, the club magazine, in May 1989. It confirmed that the venture was being overseen by Benny Rooney, a youth development officer with Celtic FC.
“Celtic are currently in the process of setting up a Celtic Boys Club based in Edinburgh which will cater for all east coast youngsters,” it said.
“The new club will be known as the Celtic East Youth Club. The boys club will be run along the same lines as their excellent counterpart in the west run by Frank Cairney, Jim Torbett and their men.” It adds: “Celtic would help out with the initial costs and Benny himself will be helping out with coaching at the beginning.”
A report on the club’s first game was featured in a Celtic FC matchday programme three months later.
Strachan became a long-serving club official and referee despite being convicted of an indecent assault on a child in 1985, when he was 17. In 1997 he resigned from Celtic East after he was convicted of sexually assaulting a boy and sentenced to three years in jail.
After his release Strachan tried to rape an 18-month-old boy on Hogmanay 2005 and took a photograph of the incident.
Strachan, now 52, was at the heart of an organised abuse network, photographing his attacks and trading them with others. Detectives recovered 7,400 images and a succession of emails which were so graphic that experienced investigators were offered counselling.
Eight men were convicted in 2009 for their part in what police described as the “largest paedophile network dismantled in Scotland”.
They included Strachan’s co-conspirator James Rennie, now 49, who was chief executive of the charity LGBT Youth Scotland and used the name “kp[kid porn]lover99”. Both men are serving life sentences.
Torbett is two years into a six-year sentence for abusing boys between 1986 and 1994, having also been jailed in 1998 for molesting players at the feeder club between 1967 and 1974.
While expressing sympathy for his victims, Celtic has sought to distance itself from Torbett’s crimes, insisting the boys’ club was an “entirely separate organisation”. The club did not respond to a request for comment yesterday.
Torbet
I'm still looking for the article .It only mentions that ''He was asked ''. I'm sureIn your reply you said he was asked to set it up. Who asked him? Was it someone in the club hierarchy ?
I'm still looking for the article .It only mentions that ''He was asked ''. I'm sure
It seems strange that all these articles that were available on line at some point have now been erased .
The articles started to vanish around 2012 that is why I started to screenshot them .No need to put yourself out mate, i just thought you knew off the top of your head.
Do you think a certain PR company has anything to do with missing articles?
The articles started to vanish around 2012 that is why I started to screenshot them .
Around the same time that more twisted amongst their support started hinting that Torbet had been with us .Even started to shout that He was a protestant .Why that would matter I don't know. But they did try that for a while .
But you will see from the view that Cbc celebrated their 20th anniversary in 1986 .
So formed in 1966 when Torbet was a young man ,18 I believe .
Now who would have been involved in the Parkhead board room then and maybe even ended up business partners with him .
Who would have plucked a young man from a boys guild team to set up an affiliated boys club .
Someone with the same mind set .